Dungeon Sticker Book—Ridiculous drops

JokerMoment · August 2022

I haven’t done the math but it’s ridiculous trying to complete a dungeon’s set collection when there are something like 36 weapons to collect per dungeon—what’s makes it ridiculous is that you only have a chance to get a weapon in a chest or the last boss, none of the first 5/6 bosses will even have a chance to drop anything but the same body pieces you’ve already collected 20 times over.

Please ZOS, please, change the way loot drops inside of a dungeon. We shouldn’t have to run Crypt of Hearts 40 times to complete the sticker book.

aleksandr_ESO · August 2022

do you want complete sticker book for one dungeon in two days or what?
how many runs do you consider acceptable? 5, 10, 15? or maybe one run with full sets coffer in the end?

Necrotech_Master · August 2022

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

do you want complete sticker book for one dungeon in two days or what?
how many runs do you consider acceptable? 5, 10, 15? or maybe one run with full sets coffer in the end?

i think the issue is that it takes ~5 dungeon runs to get all of the non weapons, but you need another 30ish runs to get all the weapons

so after the 5th run, all of the drops will be dupes outside of the final boss, or if you get lucky from chests

JokerMoment · August 2022

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

do you want complete sticker book for one dungeon in two days or what?
how many runs do you consider acceptable? 5, 10, 15? or maybe one run with full sets coffer in the end?

There’s always someone in the replies like this.
I didn’t say give me every weapon in one run. I’ve played this game since day 1 on console, I enjoy the farming. I ran du veins constantly looking for divine and properly traited weapons; so obviously I’ll continue to do it, but you can’t tell me 45-50 runs makes sense; where only one boss drops weapons.

If every boss dropped an item you don’t have it would still take somewhere around 10-15 runs just to complete the sticker book for that dungeon.

And to answer your question fully—do I want the complete sticker book in 2 days? I don’t care how many days it takes. I’m talking about the amount of runs. And don’t even get me started on DLCs.

These forums have a habit of taking a simple complaint and making it seem ridiculous like I asked for every item to drop in a single run. Just something that makes a little more sense; I don’t need 40 individually body pieces while trying to farm the basic weapons sets.

Regardless this post didn’t get much interaction so I guess people are completely happy with the system.

JokerMoment · August 2022

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

do you want complete sticker book for one dungeon in two days or what?
how many runs do you consider acceptable? 5, 10, 15? or maybe one run with full sets coffer in the end?

i think the issue is that it takes ~5 dungeon runs to get all of the non weapons, but you need another 30ish runs to get all the weapons

so after the 5th run, all of the drops will be dupes outside of the final boss, or if you get lucky from chests

Exactly. It would be great if you could somehow prioritize the set you’re looking for through some sort of Looting Skill Line but that would most likely get locked behind the crown store.

RealLoveBVB · August 2022

There was a time when people had to run several 100 runs in a dungeon for a single weapon, because it didn't had guaranteed drops.

And now people complain about those 30 runs to fill the whole stckerbook...

It is fine as it is now.

JokerMoment · August 2022

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

There was a time when people had to run several 100 runs in a dungeon for a single weapon, because it didn't had guaranteed drops.

And now people complain about those 30 runs to fill the whole stckerbook...

It is fine as it is now.

Again. I did it. I know that time existed. Doesn’t matter. It wasn’t a good model the and it should’ve been updated when they made curated drops.

It’s not complaining to call out a bad model.
Just like I’m not going to sit here and say you’re complaining in a reply to my post.

I’m glad you have an opinion but I have one too.
It isn’t fine how it is.

Lynxyn · August 2022

Armor and weapons should drop from all bosses except the final boss which should also drop weapons and jewelry. That being said I can't ever stop being grateful for zos adding the sticker book. When I was farming fang lair for caluurions it at least basically guaranteed me a full set of armor even though I wanted it on jewelry and weapons. I also never got a vma staff despite playing the game for a long while prior to sticker book I always ended up getting something like bow or s&b. Farmed out all the rest after and literally got every weapon but a destro until they were the last 3 missing, but at least it acted as a psuedo bad luck protection and guaranteed that I would get it after a certain number of runs who knows how many runs deep I would of had to go until I got it prior to sticker book and I'm glad I never found out.

AvalonRanger · August 2022

JokerMoment wrote: »

I haven’t done the math but it’s ridiculous trying to complete a dungeon’s set collection when there are something like 36 weapons to collect per dungeon—what’s makes it ridiculous is that you only have a chance to get a weapon in a chest or the last boss, none of the first 5/6 bosses will even have a chance to drop anything but the same body pieces you’ve already collected 20 times over.

Please ZOS, please, change the way loot drops inside of a dungeon. We shouldn’t have to run Crypt of Hearts 40 times to complete the sticker book.

And this is the main reason, why speed runners keep skipping secret boss.
It's a game design failure.

ErMurazor · August 2022

JokerMoment wrote: »

I haven’t done the math but it’s ridiculous trying to complete a dungeon’s set collection when there are something like 36 weapons to collect per dungeon—what’s makes it ridiculous is that you only have a chance to get a weapon in a chest or the last boss, none of the first 5/6 bosses will even have a chance to drop anything but the same body pieces you’ve already collected 20 times over.

Please ZOS, please, change the way loot drops inside of a dungeon. We shouldn’t have to run Crypt of Hearts 40 times to complete the sticker book.

Stop this whining. If you been here from the start this new system is a gift from heaven. Now i know i can get the weapon i want if i put in the effort. Before I could do 100 runs without the weapon i wanted dropped. For example when Burning Spell weave inferno was meta. I never got it despite doing like 60 runs in that dungeon.

boi_anachronism_ · August 2022

ErMurazor wrote: »

JokerMoment wrote: »

I haven’t done the math but it’s ridiculous trying to complete a dungeon’s set collection when there are something like 36 weapons to collect per dungeon—what’s makes it ridiculous is that you only have a chance to get a weapon in a chest or the last boss, none of the first 5/6 bosses will even have a chance to drop anything but the same body pieces you’ve already collected 20 times over.

Please ZOS, please, change the way loot drops inside of a dungeon. We shouldn’t have to run Crypt of Hearts 40 times to complete the sticker book.

Stop this whining. If you been here from the start this new system is a gift from heaven. Now i know i can get the weapon i want if i put in the effort. Before I could do 100 runs without the weapon i wanted dropped. For example when Burning Spell weave inferno was meta. I never got it despite doing like 60 runs in that dungeon.

The absolute last item that dropped from the entire dungeon for me lol

Jaimeh · August 2022

JokerMoment wrote: »

I haven’t done the math but it’s ridiculous trying to complete a dungeon’s set collection when there are something like 36 weapons to collect per dungeon—what’s makes it ridiculous is that you only have a chance to get a weapon in a chest or the last boss, none of the first 5/6 bosses will even have a chance to drop anything but the same body pieces you’ve already collected 20 times over.

Please ZOS, please, change the way loot drops inside of a dungeon. We shouldn’t have to run Crypt of Hearts 40 times to complete the sticker book.

You can also get a weapon from chests or trash mob drops, but it's not curated. You can also buy them now, because the way the stickerbook works, if someone doesn't bind their weapon, they'll get it again on the next run, so it's usual to see people selling runs for specific weapons. I think this system is dramatically better than what we had before: even if you have to run it 40 times, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Before, you could run something like vMA hundreds of times and still not get your drop. For eg., I ran FH a bunch of times lately to get Pillar daggers, and I got them at the very end when all but two of the Pillar slots were occupied, which was a lot of runs--sure it was extremely tedious (as all farming is supposed to be), but it had a definite ending. And even better, I can reconstruct them for my alt characters any time I like, without having to refarm the dungeon. The only criticism I have for the current system (and that has to do more with how jewellery crafting works, rather than the stickerbook itself) is that if for eg., you are farming a vet dungeon for a purple ring, and you want to get a second ring, or more rings for alt characters, you'd have to wait till all the stickerbook was done, and then deal with the rng, which doesn't make sense time-wise, so the only viable option is to reconstruct them, but given how jewellery crafting works, the mats can be a limiting factor.

NettleCarrier · September 2022

Honestly it's fine as it is. With chests dropping random items including weapons, it only typically takes around 30 runs on average to fill out a sticker book for a dungeon, compared to 50-ish if you somehow don't get any weapons in chests. It used to be sooo much worse. Yes, I'm one of those players trying to completely fill my dungeon and overland sticker books lol.

Aggrovious · October 2022

Yeah its game design. You want players to queue for the same dungeon so the queue times aren't long. Well if you have a tank and healer queueing which is never hence you have to fake a role to farm gear, that part sucks major ***.

Equip CP treasure hunter. Now simple chest will drop better items (better chance)

Always bind new items // lock the sets you need so you don't have to waste transmutes especially if it's divines or whatever trait you need.

Farm with a group. Curated drops among a group means it's a faster farming time.

Some carrys run dungeons and sell guarantee drops because they want gold so they don't bind the last item for sticker book. So bring as much gold as possible to get those daggers or inferno staff.

The final boss and chest will drop weapons. So skip skippable bosses and if people complain, *** em.

PrimusTiberius · November 2022

Try working on the trial sets, Cloudrest is THE worst, no treasure chest to open and weapons only drop from the last boss. its frustratingly ridiculous

Necrotech_Master · November 2022

PrimusTiberius wrote: »

Try working on the trial sets, Cloudrest is THE worst, no treasure chest to open and weapons only drop from the last boss. its frustratingly ridiculous

not to mention that different stuff drops depending if its +0, +1, +2, or +3

almost the same way with the asylum weapons, requiring doing +2 to get perfected drops (or scoring on the weekly leaderboard if asylum is the chosen trial)

Aggrovious · November 2022

PrimusTiberius wrote: »

Try working on the trial sets, Cloudrest is THE worst, no treasure chest to open and weapons only drop from the last boss. its frustratingly ridiculous

are you high? Cloudrest is the quickest trial in the game. Too bad players take forever. Also do it on +2 and +3 for more drops. Run with a guild if they haven't all died off.