ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

@redlink1979 One clarifying question. Is this for console you're having this issue?

Issue happens persistently on consoles, I can speak for PS5 but I'm sure Xbox users have the same issue, and gamepad mode (PC).
All weapons are affected.
It's super annoying on healers, it's super annoying when you wish to include a heavy attack on your parse to restore some of your resources.

im on PC and sometimes have the issue of the heavy attack "sticking" as in i release the mouse button and the game still forces the heavy attack to go through with the full animation

i dont think ive had the issue where the heavy wouldnt work when pressing the button and needing to press it multiple times (i am having that issue with block on certain toons since the update though)

I only started messing around with a few heavy attack builds with a Lightning Staff on the PTS for U36, but I definitely noticed that the heavy attacks didn't start while holding down the mouse button sometimes. It seemed to happen more often after bar swapping for me, but it occurred after casting a skill and staying on the same bar too a handful of times.

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

At least buff lightning staffs.

About HA yes it is buged and some times do not start.

But in PVP locations ... some weapons attack do not land and bug character - as example snipe - you stand in strange pose for 6 seconds and even can not swap weapon, so may be it is some server delay bug (bad hardware)

But with nerf of HA sets, with removing 1 HA hit with no post about such change in patch notes (so may be it is just 1 more bug) - lightning staffs are UNDERPERFORMING !

It is one of the best weapons in this game. At least buff its passives !

As example let it buff damage over time, not AOE damage as example.

So it would be more effective with META builds, more playable with light and HA. With nerfs even on HA META sets overperform HA builds. It even sounds strange ! At least make lightning staffs builds playable by buffing weapons passives.

Now we have 10% less damage with lightning staffs, just because it is lightning, not fire staffs in same builds !

We like lightning staffs. Why is it so underperforming ? Sets are nerfed, skilks do less damage.

It do not feel right.

Even in other games - there are cool lightning thingth, as example waffentrager tank.

Why in TESO lightning staffs get so much nerfs ?

Why so small number of lightning weapons/skills/sets ? (Or it works/looks bad and have bad numbers)

I like to play Templar and DK. But I want to play with lightning staff. Why I can play with any other weapon, but lightning staffs are always underperforming ?

Why not to buff already this weapon, to make it the same good choise like all others ?

Because they hit multiple targets...... This is not complicated. You can not have a weapon that hits multiple targets hit them all at the same damage as a single target weapon. It is the same with aoe skills verse single target skills. This has been said over and over and over. It IS a good choice for trash mobs. It is intended as a choice for overland, arenas, and the like not pvp.

And the changes were posted in patch notes right along with the changes to resto. No one likes their damage nerfed but most weapons got one. Duel wield saw a 22% nerf.

We have as example Master 2 handed weapon.

The same time - you can do LA + AOE skill, or you can do HA of lightning staff.

With fire staff some AOE skills are buffed as single target - so even so you can get more AOE damage with fire staffs. As example on 3 targets.

So I see no answer in your post.

The same I do not see what was told a lot of times - because on real examples it just the same do not work.

Even on HA of lightning staff - on small HP targets your HA would start stuck, so you will not do so much damage as you expect. Sowe sets will not even activate, as example storm master.

So - I do not see some real data under your post.

Thats why as example there is not to much lightning staffs users in top logs.

They do less damage, they are underperforming.

And now when they are underperforming even in some AOE situations, it is good opportunity buff its solo damage.

Dual weild is META weapon. So it shows very good DPS numbers. If other weapon show less numbers and is not used due too its bad DPS values - it needs buff.

Fire has a passive that buffs some singular skills. It is not aoe in of itself and does not buff every aoe skill... It's apples and oranges. Two hand only does full damage to your direct target much less of surrounding targets, it isn't remotely the same. It is also a melee weapon which requires close range and therefore more risk, melee weapons all do more damage then ranged because of this. DW requiring the closest proximity to target. Look at the tool tips. One being a "meta" weapon has nothing to do with my point which was ALL weapons received nerfs including fire staffs and many way more substantial. You do not see lightning on top logs because logs are mostly for/from parsing which prioritize single target damage... Because you are hitting one target. You can't log damage in trash packs in an aoe situation. I've used lightning staffs plenty in solo arenas, I understand the tool tip, it's function and what advantages it provides in what situation. On top of that HA has access to empower which provides an insane buff that LA does not get. This is why oakensoul is still very effective on HA builds. You don't understand the full picture and are obviously not utilizing it properly as result. It serves it purpose and they will never and I do mean never, make it as effective on multiple targets as a single target weapon. Sorry to break it to ya. It would completely unbalance the game. Additionally master weapons and all arena weapons provide unique buffs. They can not rightly be compared to a regular 5 piece set weapon. It's just plain disingenuous to pretend you can.