I threw this together in the build editor. it should hit decently hard, especially if you have a group to provide a few extra buffs and debuffs.

front bar is dual wield precise axes shock + poison damage glyphs
7 medium (can switch waist and necklace to make it 6 medium + 1 light) all divines max mag
back bar is perfected maelstrom inferno with weapon damage enchant

hurricane on the back bar provides a nice dot that ramps and I swapped ele drain for ele sus as next patch that morph will grant all 3 status effects every 6 seconds which makes for a nice dot.

rotation starts off with pre buff crit surge and hurricane into ele sus into wall into lightning flood (drop atro if its ready)
swap to front bar
drop trap then curse then spam art burst and use frags on proc.

If you want to keep the double destro, maybe try out VH inferno staff front bar with elemental susceptibility, it makes for a really nice dot with the staff proc and the triple status effect every 6 seconds, unfortunately the raw dps drop from not running dual wield will be noticeable.

Thank you @Turtle_Bot for what you wrote.

Now, about the build you are suggesting, I like it but I'm very worried about the loss of Spell Penetration (6573), Magicka Recovery (28%), Magicka Cost Reduction (14%) and Spell Critical (1533); I could switch from The Thief to The Lover to get some more Spell Penetration, but I would lose even more Spell Critical.

I will try your suggestions nonetheless, so, for now, thank you.

Zaan is a really bad monster set. Even in the most optimum case it performs worse than plenty other options that are easier to play and keep up. And the Sorc even doesnt synergize with this set like dragon knights.

In doubt just use Stormfist which is almost always stronger and especially the sorc even has a synergetic effect (5% extra damage).

Also I dont see the benefit of being vampire, it almost only gives you drawbacks and the spammable isnt worth it in my opinion you will probably do better without being a vampire.

You could use flurry (I especially like bloodthirsty which does about the same damage if not more because of the status effect it can provide + it adds plenty healing) but it is a stam skill and you probably would need to add some stam recovery (maybe through medium armor and best through tri stat potions) or use force pulse if playing with a staff which allows you to play ranged most of the time and also has some cleave damage (which Sorcs usually miss) and a 3x chance to proc status effects (multiplied with the 100% increased chance from the destruction staff passive). Or if you dont have enough bar space, just use crystal fragments as your only spammable. Even mages wrath as execute would probably be a better choice than going vamp for that spammable...

Also I would recommend to use bound aegis (replace the vampire skill with it for example and maybe even double bar it), because it adds 8% Magicka (damage increase), 2% spell damage, minor resolve and triggers all the passives that pets would trigger like the extra 8% health and 20% health + stamina recovery, without even being cast ever, also it will make your rotation easier.

If you miss a few light attacks elemental weapon is even a DPS loss, ditch it completely...

Ditch weakness of elements completely. In 4 man content this debuff SHOULD be provided by the tank, sometimes the healer but primarily the tank, usually with his taunt skill! In solo content its not worth in overland, too because enemies have only about 9k resistances here and your light armor passives should be enough. Its only useful if soloing 4 man content or doing solo arenas, or PVP but anything else it shouldnt be slotted by a DD.

Grab Orders Wrath (if you dont use grave inevitability), especially in non trial situations without trial gear this is one of the best sets you can wear. Its better than Tzogvin, its better than Medusa, its better than Mother Sorrow and its for sure definetly better than Julianos! Then you probably even could switch from Shadow to Thief (depends on your actual crit values). And the best, its craftable and you even dont need the DLC. Get it from a guild trader, ask someone to craft it for you, craft it yourself if you know someone with a crafting table of this set.

And use barbed Trap (I think evne with grave inevetability because you probably dont get the minor buff yourself)! Its a great DoT (consider the 10x chance for a status effect that adds to your damage, especially with a destruction staff or a charged weapon) and makes sets like Medusa or Tzogvin obsolet.

If you are still below the crit cap: backstabber! (Except if you are soloing)

Inner light is usually slightly stronger than camo hunter on Magicka chars (the 5% magicka are usually stronger than 3% spell damage + you get magicka sustain) and the buff camo hunter provides is usually also already provided by a healer (combat prayer), thus redundant. And if soloing you even wont get that buff most of the time, especially without pets which could allow you to flank (in content they are targetable).

Try to get at least one fighters guild ability on each bar (barbed trap and the ulti, I prefer the ulti on frontbar and the barbed trap on back bar) to get the ulti regeneration from killing adds.

Xynode's Easy Sorc (1 bar and 2 bar variants) are around 70k and don't have pets, though both are heavy attack builds.

1bar: Order's Wrath, Sergeant's Mail, Oakensoul, Slimecraw (1 piece)
2bar: Infallible Mage, Sergeant's Mail, Zaan/Maw.

Both builds can also use medium (Relequin, Azureblight, Kinras, etc).

Just search YouTube for both build videos.

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

If you want good DPS on a non pet sorc, roll a mageblade.

Is that still true if you're running solo or otherwise tankless?

DahliaNightshade wrote: »

Thank you all guys, it's been a crazy week at work and I didn't have much free time, I will test your suggestions and advices during this weekend.


Thanks again,

Dahlia

good luck with your testing, hope you find something that works for you.

Sorry for the long wait guys, but I was and still am extremely busy with work; anyway, I managed to test some things and I am now almost back at where I was before Update 35.

I am now using:

- 2x Nerieneth (Light Divines with Magicka glyph)
- 5x Order's Wrath (Light Divines with Magicka glyph)
- 3x Pillar of Nirn Jewelry (Bloodthirsty with Spell Damage glyph)
- 1x Pillar of Nirn Inferno Staff (Frontbar, Precise with Shock glyph)
- 1x Perfected Maelstrom Inferno Staff (Backbar, Infused with Weapon Damage glyph)

This way I only lose around 1,5k damage compared to what I did before Update 35, and I'm fine with it.

So, thank you all for the time spent writing replies to my post, your suggestions and advices were very helpful.

Have a nice time, thanks again

Dahlia

This setup is mediocre at best and almost nothing fits together or makes sense...

Tzogvin is mediocre, there are plenty better options especially considering that barbed trap is such a good skill (great DoT + minor force + 10x chance for bleeding + wihch is extra damage + another DoT, all in one skill + fighters guild passives). The only reason to use Tzogvin is if you play a 2 pet sorc and have literally no skill slot for barbed trap left and still are below the crit cap.

Further considering that you are usually below crit cap in most / almost all dungeon groups, something like orders wrath which could be stacked with minor force will for sure outclass Tzogvin (its like haveing an strong extra 5 piece set bonus extra). We are talking about a damage difference of about +-8% just by replacing Tzogvin with Orders Wrath...

Bound armanents are not that great anymore (damage got lowered, it provides nothing for magicka and it lost the light attack bonus) since the nerf, probablly bound aegis would increase the damage on a Mag Sorc much more - while even makeing the rotation much more simple, which by itself can yield to higher damage. On top, besides being the better damage option for Mag, it will also increase your survivability.

I guess you are playing without expensive potions (otherwise crit surge doesnt make sense if you dont eagerly need self healing, while you already have structured entropy and Blood Magic for this...).

Further if you are playing without expensive potions you are missing one of the most important buffs: major prophecy which will cirpple your damage hefty, especially on a crit build. So slot Camouflaged Hunter or usually even better on Mag builds: Inner Light.

Elemental Drain makes absolutely no sense at all. Major Breach is already applied by the tank (= wasted). Minor Magickasteal is usually already applied by the healer or can be applied by the status effect that comes with magic damage (= wasted) also its not that important and maybe even counterproductive because of Bahsei. If you really have slots to waste then Elemental Susceptibility would be in almost any case a better option => extra status effecct damage + 2/3 uptime of 3 status effects. One of the status effects also has the effect of adding an additional DoT (burning), makeing the enemy hit less hard (chilled) and give you and your group 5% extra damage (concussed). While the later 2 debuffs might be already covered by many groups they arent that often covered as the buffs from Elemental Susceptibility and often not with a 100% uptime.

Also the overload ulti is meh, you might be better off with the fighters guild ulti (especially because of passives).

Its not the worst possible setup but by far not the best non pet dungeon setup...