Probably not doing the event as nothing really new dropping

@Blinx playing on NA while being in EU could be a smart move, but I've invested too much to start all over again - assistants and everything else.
Thanks for letting me know it's not only my impression. So it's actually low populated rn...

@FluffWit I wasn't judging, I even wrote I always attributed it to the time difference, I was writing about my experience, thank you.

EU is pretty dead since more than 2 years.
I am cp1800 and cp800 on EU, cp1700 and cp 800 on NA (2 accounts).

I mainly play EU during events, as this offers at least some chance to farm some rare style mats from worldbosses or level up quickly, while NA has become my server for general playing.

I find it extremely frustrating having to solo all worldbosses outside of events on EU, sales are at all time low. I CAN solo most bosses (or could before U35), but if it takes you 10 minutes of full concentration while it takes 2 minutes of relaxed mashing on NA, I prefer NA. Despite slightly longer loadtimes and more lag.
I even usually get into dungeons as DD on NA within 10 minutes, while I have to wait forever even as tank on EU pretty often.

I suggested already 2-3 years ago to add scaling to bosses, the more players, the harder it gets. Or the less, the easier. This might have brought back the last quitters like me, but it did not happen. Instead, the "solution" was oakensoul (or other mythics) to make such content easier, but to get them requires even more grind. I skip antiquities completely.

Playing NA is fine though, even at noon in germany when it is 6 am in the US, there are more players around than on EU at primetime.

(comparing population in cities and guild sales history, I think that NA has 5-10 time more players, lately maybe even more)

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@markulrich1966 thank you for the explanation. Now I get it, and yeah on Xbox EU there's no one around doing World Bosses, and very few on Incursions too.
I have no doubt NA and PC in general are way more populated.
Sad for me. And I wonder why ESO doesn't appeal Xbox EU players... Who knows.
At this rate, give me another 1 or 2 years and I'll be playing a Massive Single Player Online game, which I like, don't get me wrong, but makes trading harder XD

I think there were mainly 2 reasons.

EU had login issues maybe 3 years ago, so I created my first account on NA to be able to play at least a little. Not intended to become permanent, but once you start, you want to reach at least cp160, then cp810, etc...

Also cyrodiil on EU was affected more than NA as far as I know, more lag/crashes. So several PVPers left, guilds disbandonned.
I later met again the guildmaster of the former EU-guild Vindicta Vindici on NA, so I guess some migrated to NA, but most I never saw again. Since some weeks, I have the impression that there are more EU players on NA. But this is very subjective, and I don't have numbers.

Problem is, once such issues occur, you can get into a "death-spiral".
Some players quit (login/PVP issues), so there are less remaining to do bosses together.
People get creative, e.g. zonechat was very active in summerset for a while to get help.
But after a while, first people get tired that things got harder/more complicated (coordinating groups for a simple boss), so more quit.
In the end, even remaining high-level players just get tired that now all that is left is soloing give up.

And I think that this also is one reason, why we see so many events now. They try to bring back players by focussing "action" to specific weeks of the year, while people just do crafting writs the rest of the time.

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Since the EU accounts don't get deleted, maybe next year when the servers will be updated people will return to EU...?
Do you think they'll be willing? @markulrich1966

It is hard to predict what players do, but I am sceptical.
To build up a playerbase from scratch is a challenge.

And they still have no worldboss-scaling.
Almost all zones feel dead.

The performance was worse in the past, the elsweyr release very bad with heavy staff attacks not firing in delves.. This was fixed after maybe 2 months, and currently PVE works fine for me. But this did not bring players back.

Cyro was worse, too, got better, main issue for me are constant crashes capturing keeps. But skills fire better than before. But campaigns still are empty, even grayhost rarely 3 bars.

I think in addition to upgrades they need such gameplay fixes, and more event-style stuff to attract players again.
But not simply "just more events".
For example, a "weekly featured DLC", where bosses drop extra loot.
This might help to focus players in one zone, making worldbosses playable again.

If they continue as now, we just will see short spikes of increased players, like during the High Isle event.

I’m on XEU and XNA. My main main is EU so I tend to spend more time there and it is definitely quieter than a few weeks ago. I think there may be an element of event exhaustion as I was struggling by the end of High Isle. So much fighting with Undaunted event before that too, I am getting pains in my hands lol. I try to play each of my mains as evenly as I can during events so it gets very tiring.

I am currently unwell with flu so I’m just jumping in for tickets and some Endeavors. I’ve tried to continue with the High Isle dailies but have at times found no one at the WBs or vents and just given up. Not bothering with soloing FG1 twice a day either. So bored of that now!

One thing I have noticed in the last few days is when I'm in Craglorn looking to join trial groups, theres far less LFG in chat then there was this time last year.

N3CR01 Yeah, I was happy having my trader in Craglorn but the zone seems empty even during the event. I thought there would have been traffic since there's the Indrik vendor, and the Impresario...

Kitziboo you're welcome, and good to hear you're helping out others with WB, it's an idea.
Personally I'm falling deep in the wormhole of trying to becoming rich. I have 4.5 millions circa, and I would want to reach at least 10, but I'm having an hard time doing so: outside of Explorer Event (in which I farm Public Dungeons) it seems doing antiquities in Artaeum is the most consistent method, because trading vary extremely and these days are meh. It will be a long way...

Places like Vulkhel Guard and the nearby dolmen used to be packed with people, now I always find them empty.
The remaining people seems concentrated in High Isle... I wonder if new players don't bother much with base game zones if they purchased the Collection.