20 min Q then got kicked from fungal grotto 1 because I was a tank + plunder Skull rant

ksbrugh · October 2022

LOL And I'm real tank too. The irony LoL
What's up with the cooldown on the plunder skulls. Can only collect 8 or 10 an hour farming world bosses 20 an hour doing word events. Collected 45 so far after hours of play and all I got was worms crawlers and odds and ends trash. What were the devs thinking putting a cool down on these boxes that hardly ever give anything worth even farming for anymore. Better XP runs in other places. Got all my gold plunder boxes and got nothing but a few Deidra motifs that I've collected years ago style pages from the new costume (good luck). RNG is so horrific for me maybe not for everybody but for me, I won't even go there with RNG. Anyway this is just my honest opinion I love the game but sometimes it just gets under my skin the way things are done and handled at headquarters. LoL
AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE 20 MINUTE PLUS Q FOR A TANK TO GET INTO A DUNGEON. IS THE Q SYSTEM BROKE OR BUGGED!!!

Update I messaged one of the people that kicked me and ask why. He said he was sorry but yes he kicked me, because they wanted 4 dps runners and not a tank. LoL I got the armor change Ally and have a dps setup for my tank as well.

SeaGtGruff · October 2022

If you want to farm them, I think farming the bosses in a public dungeon might be the most reliable method?

ksbrugh · October 2022

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

If you want to farm them, I think farming the bosses in a public dungeon might be the most reliable method?

Thank you I will give it a shot. But they are not giving out much loot for the time invested imo though

rpa · October 2022

Try Na-Totambu (the order to start public event is bugs, spiders, scorpions). Too bad boss drops have a cooldown.

Soarora · October 2022

I have noticed queue is breaking again. A relog or queuing for more dungeons (maybe people are fake tanking and queueing fg1?) might help.

Dr_Con · October 2022

were you the tank that randomly dropped from my group?

it was fgII though, right after we got the husk he just straight up left

Kappachi · October 2022

ksbrugh wrote: »

LOL And I'm real tank too. The irony LoL
What's up with the cooldown on the plunder skulls. Can only collect 8 or 10 an hour farming world bosses 20 an hour doing word events. Collected 45 so far after hours of play and all I got was worms crawlers and odds and ends trash. What were the devs thinking putting a cool down on these boxes that hardly ever give anything worth even farming for anymore. Better XP runs in other places. Got all my gold plunder boxes and got nothing but a few Deidra motifs that I've collected years ago style pages from the new costume (good luck). RNG is so horrific for me maybe not for everybody but for me, I won't even go there with RNG. Anyway this is just my honest opinion I love the game but sometimes it just gets under my skin the way things are done and handled at headquarters. LoL
AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE 20 MINUTE PLUS Q FOR A TANK TO GET INTO A DUNGEON. IS THE Q SYSTEM BROKE OR BUGGED!!!

i may be 100% wrong, but I think ESO's queue uses a lottery system. Sometimes as DPS i get instant queues(click button, dungeon available), other times it's 20 minutes. As someone who's used to waiting like an hour+ in other MMORPGs it's a breath of fresh air if it's truly a lottery system of sorts because I always find a dungeon in a reasonable amount of time.

orgin_stadia · October 2022

ksbrugh wrote: »

AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE 20 MINUTE PLUS Q FOR A TANK TO GET INTO A DUNGEON. IS THE Q SYSTEM BROKE OR BUGGED!!!

Perhaps there's simply too many fake tanks in the queue?

ksbrugh · October 2022

Dr_Con wrote: »

were you the tank that randomly dropped from my group?

it was fgII though, right after we got the husk he just straight up left

No it said I was removed from group

ksbrugh · October 2022

orgin_stadia wrote: »

ksbrugh wrote: »

AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE 20 MINUTE PLUS Q FOR A TANK TO GET INTO A DUNGEON. IS THE Q SYSTEM BROKE OR BUGGED!!!

Perhaps there's simply too many fake tanks in the queue?

You could be right about that lol

FluffWit · October 2022

I thought about queuing a dungeon when I got on today but thought better of it. These events just bring out the worst in people.

It's a shame, i do like dungeons but i prefer to do them when people are there because they want to be. Not because ZOS told them to. I need the motifs but I'll just pick em up in a trader late next week or solo something.

Dr_Con · October 2022

FluffWit wrote: »

I thought about queuing a dungeon when I got on today but thought better of it. These events just bring out the worst in people.

It's a shame, i do like dungeons but i prefer to do them when people are there because they want to be. Not because ZOS told them to. I need the motifs but I'll just pick em up in a trader late next week or solo something.

It's mostly instanced, the alik'ir public dungeon boss basically respawns right away and you can think of any obscure DLC delve to get the delve one done. Most people running dolmens for these anyways. They've incentivized them so people are gonna farm them, just like with anything in the game.

kargen27 · October 2022

I've been queueing for specific vet dungeons and so far nothing but good groups and not much waiting.

I'm not sure there is a cool down on plunder skulls? I know there is a cool down on delve and group bosses. If you want to do delves you can park three characters in a dungeon then just log on kill boss log off go to next character and repeat.

Normal maelstrom arena is a good way to get quick plunder scrolls. Probably quicker ways?

On my 2nd account I am taking advantage and finishing world bosses I can't solo. My one character on that account is still kind of low level.

Aislinna · October 2022

What level was your character? Was it possible you were on a very low level alt that qualified the group for FG1 and that is why you got kicked? Not saying it's right, but I have heard of people kicking low level alts they don't want to carry.

svendf · October 2022

Aislinna wrote: »

What level was your character? Was it possible you were on a very low level alt that qualified the group for FG1 and that is why you got kicked? Not saying it's right, but I have heard of people kicking low level alts they don't want to carry.

Care to go through the post again ? You have the answer, he posted why xD

SeaGtGruff · October 2022

Dr_Con wrote: »

FluffWit wrote: »

I thought about queuing a dungeon when I got on today but thought better of it. These events just bring out the worst in people.

It's a shame, i do like dungeons but i prefer to do them when people are there because they want to be. Not because ZOS told them to. I need the motifs but I'll just pick em up in a trader late next week or solo something.

It's mostly instanced, the alik'ir public dungeon boss basically respawns right away and you can think of any obscure DLC delve to get the delve one done. Most people running dolmens for these anyways. They've incentivized them so people are gonna farm them, just like with anything in the game.

I was doing the Fighters Guild daily last night, and was assigned to shut down dolmens in the Rift. It may have been because of my local time zone (EDT in the USA) and the particular server I was playing on (PC EU), but there was no one else around at the time, so I got to solo all three dolmens, which was kind of nice.

Much earlier in the day, when I was doing the Fighters Guild daily on PC NA, there were so many players at the dolmens in Deshaan that I was lucky I got any event coffers at all-- in fact, I didn't get one from the first dolmen, but was fortunate enough to get the golden coffer from the second dolmen and a purple coffer from the third dolmen.

Aelorin · October 2022

A DPS that knows what he is doing can easily solo FG1. So if you queue for FG1 and you get a lvl 10, tank and healer, then it still will be a breeze to run though. I really don't get why people would kick you.

I'm really really sorry you were kicked that way.

I on the other hand appreciate a good and real tank/healer in ANY dungeon. So please keep tanking

About the plunder skulls I also don't get it: The golden ones are also on a timer? Or does that golden one only drop from the last boss in maelstrom arena? I did get a purple one from the first boss yesterday.

Soarora · October 2022

Aelorin wrote: »

About the plunder skulls I also don't get it: The golden ones are also on a timer? Or does that golden one only drop from the last boss in maelstrom arena? I did get a purple one from the first boss yesterday.

The golden ones only drop from the final boss, though you can only get one of each type a day.

DMuehlhausen · October 2022

The purple ones don't give much. They have a chance to drop any item, or most that the gold ones do, but only dropping 2 items it's pretty low drop rate.

Necrotech_Master · October 2022

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

The purple ones don't give much. They have a chance to drop any item, or most that the gold ones do, but only dropping 2 items it's pretty low drop rate.

must be just lucky then, i got 2 corrupting bloody mara recipes in less than 10 purple skulls lol

not to mention i still have another 35 plunder skulls to open on my 2nd acct that was camping a delve boss while i was running trials yesterday lol

Paralyse · October 2022

FG1 has become the "go to" because of how fast it can be cleared (5-10 minutes)

I personally wish they would invisible-wall the skip that lets you drop down the waterfall.

WoW had tried to get away from this problem by making you kill all (non-optional) bosses in a dungeon to receive completion credit, or by engineering dungeons so that you literally could not skip bosses, by means such as locked doors, portals, and other physical barriers to progress.

But there are other dungeons that can be run nearly as quickly (Spindle 1, e.g.)

Aislinna · October 2022

svendf wrote: »

Aislinna wrote: »

What level was your character? Was it possible you were on a very low level alt that qualified the group for FG1 and that is why you got kicked? Not saying it's right, but I have heard of people kicking low level alts they don't want to carry.

Care to go through the post again ? You have the answer, he posted why xD

Thank you, but OP editing and updating the original post after I posted, had not answered my question when I asked.

Pink_E_808 · October 2022

Purple plunder skulls have a 3 minute cool down.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2022

Yeah FG1 usually takes less time than a vote kick to go through. I am legitimately impressed that anyone has ever been kicked from FG1.

svendf · October 2022

Aislinna wrote: »

svendf wrote: »

Aislinna wrote: »

What level was your character? Was it possible you were on a very low level alt that qualified the group for FG1 and that is why you got kicked? Not saying it's right, but I have heard of people kicking low level alts they don't want to carry.

Care to go through the post again ? You have the answer, he posted why xD

Thank you, but OP editing and updating the original post after I posted, had not answered my question when I asked.

Oh I see, My apology

Everest_Lionheart · October 2022

orgin_stadia wrote: »

ksbrugh wrote: »

AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE 20 MINUTE PLUS Q FOR A TANK TO GET INTO A DUNGEON. IS THE Q SYSTEM BROKE OR BUGGED!!!

Perhaps there's simply too many fake tanks in the queue?

It’s an event week with rewards attached to dungeons so it doesn’t surprise me if DPS are queueing as fake tank/healer just to bypass the queue leading to longer wait times for actual tanks and healers because there aren’t enough DPS in the queue 🤣

Castagere · October 2022

The reward for all that time though. The RNG in ESO is really bad.

rpa · October 2022

I prefer soloing Spindleclutch 1 to a group rush of FG 1. Actually I prefer soloing any of the dungeons I can solo to a hurryup group run.

svendf · October 2022

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

orgin_stadia wrote: »

ksbrugh wrote: »

AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE 20 MINUTE PLUS Q FOR A TANK TO GET INTO A DUNGEON. IS THE Q SYSTEM BROKE OR BUGGED!!!

Perhaps there's simply too many fake tanks in the queue?

It’s an event week with rewards attached to dungeons so it doesn’t surprise me if DPS are queueing as fake tank/healer just to bypass the queue leading to longer wait times for actual tanks and healers because there aren’t enough DPS in the queue 🤣

It´s a practise used outside events as well. It´s becoming a norm to avoid healers and tanks in some content. Refreshing and a big step up in life quallity not being part of that anymore

ixthUA · October 2022

When doing base game normal dungeons, it feels like 1 player is enough for them. Usually 1 player runs ahead and kills everything, the other 3 players just run after them and spectate. As a tank, most of the time i just spectate, except those 10 sec that it takes for DD to kill a boss, when i use taunt.
Even in normal dlc dungeons, boss life and damage are so low it makes no difference if i use taunt or not, minor breach is probably the only useful thing i do there.

huntgod_ESO · October 2022

Am I missing something? The regular purple plunder skulls have nothing of value in them...so why are folks farming them? The ROI just seems very low compared to any number of other things you could be farming.