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Why Necromancer is the only one with "Criminal" Skills
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FlopsyPrince✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
Except when you accidentally hit -R- and the people in the town you just liberated turn against you in werewolf form!PC
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Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Maybe random NPCs be like Necromancer = Worm Cult = Criminal Scum.
(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cause you are manipulating the local dead and spiritual forces of the locals and their dead. Basically when you are summing a skeleton or spirit in town you are grabbing one the local dead to come party with you and when you are changing into that massive form you are disbursing the peace same for werewolves. Not to mention you are pulling on locall bodies and essence to enehnce yourself
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NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I always wonder how people play when they complain how they get bounties all the time as a necromancer. I've 3 and I think the only times I've gotten a bounty for casting necromantic spells is when I've accidentally used my ultimate right in the middle of Vivec City when doing writs. No biggie to me, just a quick visit to the Outlaw Refuge, or using one of my many edicts.
It would be terribly immersion breaking if it was removed. It's enough people run around on zombie or vampire mounts and no one bats an eye.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!4 -
CaptainVenom✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wonder why people can't stand the undead near them but are okay with summoned daedra from sorcerers in the middle of the Planemeld where daedric forces are invading Nirn.
Just a thought lol🌈 Ride with Pride🌈
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
yeah. That fix immersion! lol
Luckily, I don't suffer from this "immersion" silliness.
edit: in addition, this is an MMO with all sorts of cosmetic craziness & other junk. Even if I did believe in "immersion," I sincerely doubt there's any of that here. Between people riding on piles of lava rock, dudes running around with pink & light green armor, and all the strange behavior & names of players.... right. Sure.Edited by Kiralyn2000 on October 14, 2022 12:27AM2 -
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✭If you're looking to be immersed in a game world, try another game that isn't a an MMO RPG.
Otherwise, the bearded dress-wearing Orc necromancers riding flaming camels (nothing wrong with that) or the people slinging insults and propaganda in zone chat will be breaking your "immersion" a lot.Owner and proprietor of the Northern Elsweyr Guar Reserve and The Hunting Grounds Guar Reserve, Tamriel's home to all things guar.See the embedded brochures for all information regarding our reserves, as well as our collection status!1 -
NeuroticPixels✭✭✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
Except when you accidentally hit -R- and the people in the town you just liberated turn against you in werewolf form!
Rebind it to something else. I rebound mine to 6. But I also have an MMO mouse that has like 18 buttons.Check out the ReShade I made: Crispy Sharpness0 -
NeuroticPixels✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
yeah. That fix immersion! lol
Luckily, I don't suffer from this "immersion" silliness.
“Immersion” is so overrated.Check out the ReShade I made: Crispy Sharpness2 -
tohopka_eso✭✭✭✭I don't know, I actually find it funny when I cast one of the criminal skills on my Necro.
In fact on my 3rd Necro and I usually like to see how far I can go without using the criminal skills if possible.Edited by tohopka_eso on October 14, 2022 10:49AM0 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
yeah. That fix immersion! lol
Necromancers being illegal IS immersive, that’s why they’re illegal. I would call the guards if someone summoned undead in front of me too.
i can agree with that. But then, since other classes have none criminal skills.... that break immersion in other classes. Once again... immersion in this game = 0
Went to the werewolf shrine outside Riften, turned furry, gave someone a bite, explained how to make leveling ww a little easier, and, still a transformed werewolf, headed back to Riften. The timer on changing back doesn't run when you're close to the shrine.
Completely forgot about the guards at the tower outside the one town gate.
My character did not kill anyone. Didn't even growl in the guards general direction and she had three of them after her furry hide, simply because she was a werewolf and they saw her.
The guards didn't have to see her transform. Just being a werewolf is criminal when npcs and npc guards can see you. So you're wrong that no other classes have criminal skills. Vampires have some "criminal" skills too.0 -
Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
yeah. That fix immersion! lol
Necromancers being illegal IS immersive, that’s why they’re illegal. I would call the guards if someone summoned undead in front of me too.
i can agree with that. But then, since other classes have none criminal skills.... that break immersion in other classes. Once again... immersion in this game = 0
Went to the werewolf shrine outside Riften, turned furry, gave someone a bite, explained how to make leveling ww a little easier, and, still a transformed werewolf, headed back to Riften. The timer on changing back doesn't run when you're close to the shrine.
Completely forgot about the guards at the tower outside the one town gate.
My character did not kill anyone. Didn't even growl in the guards general direction and she had three of them after her furry hide, simply because she was a werewolf and they saw her.
The guards didn't have to see her transform. Just being a werewolf is criminal when npcs and npc guards can see you. So you're wrong that no other classes have criminal skills. Vampires have some "criminal" skills too.
I remember when being a werewolf in town was legal and it was… weird. It felt wrong yet all the npcs were okay with it somehow.
Also if you don’t know, you can hit the ult button again to de-werewolf.
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✭Because that's simply how life is. Not everyone's a criminal yo.Edited by luen79rwb17_ESO on October 14, 2022 1:07PMPC/DC/NAserver
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phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I do miss the days of going Werewolf in towns without a care in the world, thanks to the introduction of Necromancer it too is a Criminal Act!0 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
yeah. That fix immersion! lol
Necromancers being illegal IS immersive, that’s why they’re illegal. I would call the guards if someone summoned undead in front of me too.
i can agree with that. But then, since other classes have none criminal skills.... that break immersion in other classes. Once again... immersion in this game = 0
Went to the werewolf shrine outside Riften, turned furry, gave someone a bite, explained how to make leveling ww a little easier, and, still a transformed werewolf, headed back to Riften. The timer on changing back doesn't run when you're close to the shrine.
Completely forgot about the guards at the tower outside the one town gate.
My character did not kill anyone. Didn't even growl in the guards general direction and she had three of them after her furry hide, simply because she was a werewolf and they saw her.
The guards didn't have to see her transform. Just being a werewolf is criminal when npcs and npc guards can see you. So you're wrong that no other classes have criminal skills. Vampires have some "criminal" skills too.
I remember when being a werewolf in town was legal and it was… weird. It felt wrong yet all the npcs were okay with it somehow.
Also if you don’t know, you can hit the ult button again to de-werewolf.
Yep. I know. I forgot about the guards and that being a ww was now criminal.
Being a ww in town and no one minding was a little strange, but on the other hand, [usually] my ww had just killed bandits/rescued npcs from cultists, so maybe a little leeway for good deeds used to apply? Not to mention if anyone ever saw a werewolf pick flowers, harvest fiber, mine ore, or lockpick a chest, they'd be too busy laughing to arrest them. Hircine must have the best dental plan ever.1 -
Triplesixtyson✭✭✭Its fitting that if I summon a creature from the dead people in town are not going to be receptive. I absolutely love the immersion this brings to my necro main.2
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Memory_In_Motion✭✭✭✭Necromancers are the source of all evil in nirn. Have you not been paying attention?1
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »SilverIce58 wrote: »Don't use the skills that incur a bounty then. Not every skill in the kit incurs a bounty.
Except when you accidentally hit -R- and the people in the town you just liberated turn against you in werewolf form!
That's why you map your ultimate to a different key. Even if the casting the ultimate isn't criminal, its a waste of the ultimate and annoys townspeople.1 -
NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CaptainVenom wrote: »I wonder why people can't stand the undead near them but are okay with summoned daedra from sorcerers in the middle of the Planemeld where daedric forces are invading Nirn.
Just a thought lol
Because one is a horrible crime, the other is not.
The majority of necromancers and necromancy people know of messes with people's souls and bodies. Almost all cultures see it as vile and a crime.
Summoning daedra uses beings from a different dimension. They are not people of Nirn, and in most cultures of Tamriel so is it a perfectly legal and common practice for mages. Exceptions being Summerset, where it is illegal.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!0 -
rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IMO burdening Necromancer, Vampire and Werewolf with crime was yet another anti-fun thing. Someone obviously do not think how their designs affect fun and little bits which make game less fun keeps piling up.0 -
Stonefalls
- Iliath Temple
- i'm necro! I summon the guardions to kill and help then avoid death! This is my quest.... but since i did skills to kill the guardions to help them... Now, people atack me... cuz im necro and i wanna help them...
I kill them all! Now i have bountie of almost 10k cuz.... i did one quest!!
THIS CRIMINAL SKILLS ARE SO FUN what a joke.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stonefalls- Iliath Temple
- i'm necro! I summon the guardions to kill and help then avoid death! This is my quest.... but since i did skills to kill the guardions to help them... Now, people atack me... cuz im necro and i wanna help them...
I kill them all! Now i have bountie of almost 10k cuz.... i did one quest!!
THIS CRIMINAL SKILLS ARE SO FUN what a joke.
Maybe put a bunch of non-criminal attacks on your backbar?
So you don’t run into this issue?
Just a thought.8 -
sure.
Change my skills to play the game and make quest to avoid bounties\be atack for the same im helping make more sence.
THIS CRIMINAL SKILLS are a jokeEdited by blue_peaceful_Manticore on October 15, 2022 2:58PM0 -
I_killed_Vivec✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Also if you don’t know, you can hit the ult button again to de-werewolf.
Doh! My main has had werewolf capability (mainly for the passive stam regen) for 8 years now and I've often wished I could switch my werewolf form off... in all that time I never knew it was so simple!
But to address the OP, of course necro skills should incur penalties - using them is just not done in polite society
And if I had my way, in towns I'd ban dangerous pets, stupid bears, daedric creatures, and filthy mounts (imagine the droppings!). Particularly indoors and at crafting stations.
I'd pay good money for a banker that said "Yeah, I'm not serving you until you get that stupid bear out of here... and you over there, put away that flapping matriarch!"
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BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sure.
Change my skills to play the game and make quest to avoid bounties\be atack for the same im helping make more sence.
THIS CRIMINAL SKILLS are a joke
Yes. Change your skills to play the game. Every class has to go through this.
As discussed above, warewolves can’t be warewolves in town.
I personally make sure I have to put special healing spells on my vampires because normal passive healing is nerfed. (Along with other skills I need to put on my bar to speak with merchants, etc.)
BTW want real pain? Play a vampire necro. I leveled two of them, yet no forum post complaining about it. I found it refreshing actually (and a bit ironically).
Sorcs to have a permanent pet need to give up a spell slot. Etc.
Wardens basically give up an ultimate to have a bear.
To do “kill x amount with class skills” endeavors I have to switch up my skills, because the only class skills I regularly use are healing ones.
All players are limited in spell slots. I can’t put everything I want on my bars, I have to put some things I “need” instead. It’s a core mechanic of the game.Edited by BlueRaven on October 15, 2022 3:37PM9 -
sure.
Change my skills to play the game and make quest to avoid bounties\be atack for the same im helping make more sence.
THIS CRIMINAL SKILLS are a joke
Yes. Change your skills to play the game. Every class has to go through this.
As discussed above, warewolves can’t be warewolves in town.
I personally make sure I have to put special healing spells on my vampires because normal passive healing is nerfed. (Along with other skills I need to put on my bar to speak with merchants, etc.)
BTW want real pain? Play a vampire necro. I leveled two of them, yet no forum post complaining about it. I found it refreshing actually (and a bit ironically).
Sorcs to have a permanent pet need to give up a spell slot. Etc.
Wardens basically give up an ultimate to have a bear.
To do “kill x amount with class skills” endeavors I have to switch up my skills, because the only class skills I regularly use are healing ones.
All players are limited in spell slots. I can’t put everything I want on my bars, I have to put some things I “need” instead. It’s a core mechanic of the game.
Makes no sence!
I'm not in the middle of the city making random skills.
I'm making skills, cuz "they ask my help" (quest)
If they ask my help, why they atack me when i'm helping them?
If i'm necro and if they ask my help... Then i will use necro skills! If they dont like necros, why they ask for my help (quest) and no. Some quests, i cant avoid if i wanna keep foward
I understand all that blablabla about cast skills in city, just to show other players how fast people are in rotation and etc...
But, we are in quest! Quest they give us after they ask our help.
And dont say its all ok, or change skills.... at the end, we all LOVE ESO but somethings dont make any sence. And ask for your help, when they dont like you cuz your necro, and atack you, cuz you are helping them MAKE NO SENCE!!!
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If you're Vampire. What happen to your char if you go for exp: Alik'r Desert at day time with sun? Nothing. So... Why make more sence take bountie\attack for use Necro skills..... but if you're vampire in the sun... all ok! There's MANY thing wrong with the game. I know! But making ONLY criminal skills in necro cant be any FIX for all the other things Wrong! Cant be!
Criminal Skills MAKES NO SENCE ((((((( WHEN YOU'RE USING THEM TO MAKE QUEST. QUETS THEY GIVE YOU)))))))
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✭✭✭✭✭sure.
Change my skills to play the game and make quest to avoid bounties\be atack for the same im helping make more sence.
THIS CRIMINAL SKILLS are a joke
Yes. Change your skills to play the game. Every class has to go through this.
As discussed above, warewolves can’t be warewolves in town.
I personally make sure I have to put special healing spells on my vampires because normal passive healing is nerfed. (Along with other skills I need to put on my bar to speak with merchants, etc.)
BTW want real pain? Play a vampire necro. I leveled two of them, yet no forum post complaining about it. I found it refreshing actually (and a bit ironically).
Sorcs to have a permanent pet need to give up a spell slot. Etc.
Wardens basically give up an ultimate to have a bear.
To do “kill x amount with class skills” endeavors I have to switch up my skills, because the only class skills I regularly use are healing ones.
All players are limited in spell slots. I can’t put everything I want on my bars, I have to put some things I “need” instead. It’s a core mechanic of the game.
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If you're Vampire. What happen to your char if you go for exp: Alik'r Desert at day time with sun? Nothing. So... Why make more sence take bountie\attack for use Necro skills..... but if you're vampire in the sun... all ok! There's MANY thing wrong with the game. I know! But making ONLY criminal skills in necro cant be any FIX for all the other things Wrong! Cant be!
Criminal Skills MAKES NO SENCE ((((((( WHEN YOU'RE USING THEM TO MAKE QUEST. QUETS THEY GIVE YOU)))))))
Read the book Noxiphilic Sanguivoria it explains why a vampire in ESO can go out in the sunlight. The bloodline predominantly in Tamriel during the time of ESO has no problems in the sunlight.
Also quest givers do not report crimes, you probably cast a criminal ability next to an innocent NPC that was not associated with a quest.
NPCs associated with quests and hand out quests are not tied to the justice system.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I can understand the frustration though it still makes sense to be illegal and I still don't know of any examples of when you fight in front of npcs that'd give you a bounty. When you go to make a necromancer, it does tell you that some skills are criminal. They've always been criminal.[PC/NA] Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS), Retired Trialist, and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore.- Current GM of Hard Dungeoneers
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✭Five necromancer skills are criminal: Frozen Colossus, Blastbones, Skeletal Mage, Spirit Mender, and Bone Goliath. Additionally, Bone Armor makes a corpse which can also generate a bounty. The rest do not: syphon, tether, scythe, skull, boneyard, etc. It is very possible; unless your bar is those exact skills, that you can still use Necro skills in town.
I guess if you're a vampire necro using Scion, Blood Frenzy, Drain, and/or Mist along with the above skills, then you might be stuck light attacking.Edited by Remathilis on October 16, 2022 3:40AM2
