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Whould you like the classic Ebony Blade as ESO Mythic item?

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This weapon is a classic powerful Daedra (Mephala) weapon in Skyrim. I don't understand why it is not an ESO's Mythic item, or even a special Dungeon/Arena prize weapon, instead of just a cosmetic piece.

Yea, I know. There is the "Ebony Style", but its not the same. And there's another real Ebony Blade wielded by Nerien'eth in the Crypt of Hearts II, where it uses a separate one handed model.

I think the weapon is an interesting part of Elder Scrolls Lore and deserves to be a important gear with useful skills.

Whould you like the classic Ebony Blade as ESO Mythic item? 65 votes

Yes, I would like it as Mythic item.
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Yes, but I prefer it as a Dungeon/Arena special prize.
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binhojoseayalacGOAT4EVARgariondaveyAmottica 5 votes
No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
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  • Dr_Con
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    I think they need more items that talk to you like the Grievous Leeching Ward

    but Ebony Blade is tied to a fargrave quest with Divayth Fyr and CoH quest and at the end of CoH2 that ghost is said to have hidden it away somewhere. Mythic items are found in pieces and brought back together. I doubt that ghost would have been able to break the blade or any daedric artifact into so many pieces and hide it in the ground only for leads to drop off of several different sources just for me to put it back together, but who am I to say.

    Can't really wrap my head around it being a mythic item. Maybe I'd like it to be like Volendrung in Cyrodiil. Another issue, once we start having mythic weapons it'll become a slippery slope with bar swapping.




    As far as weapons go, it would be cool to use the idea of players going on "Epic Quests" to get super rare drops across many zones to create an impactful, character-bound weapon (that isn't categorized as mythic) with a unique proc/buff specific to their class that buffs specific class abilities in certain ways. This item wouldn't be reconstructable. Then you can morph and improve it based on what you want it to do, and with trial drops (even veteran trial drops if that's what it takes). That's if we keep the class system... but I'm not holding my breath for it, as it would be a massive undertaking to balance and release for all classes at the same time (though it would probably make for an expansion that has high value).
    Edited by Dr_Con on October 10, 2022 9:11PM
  • El_Borracho
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    If I understand correctly. you're talking about the Ebony Blade from Skyrim. It has an absorb health trait, which you can get from glyphs on a much better weapon. Or, you could run the Pale Order ring. Or Leeching Plate. Or...

    The only way for the Ebony Blade to compete with those sets/items already in existence would be to have it absorb more health than those sets which could be potentially game-breaking. 20% from Pale Order is pretty good, so it would have to be 30-40+% in order to use it instead of another weapon on your front bar, right?
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    Would need to be careful with weapon mythics as at least some are 2 handed. It would certainly add an extra layer of balancing issues as you would sacrifice 2 slots to run them. The other issue is that they would determine your weapon choice if you want to run them. If they were ever meta, then you are basically eliminating entire weapon lines from end game.

    Don't get me wrong, there are definitely some cool unique items from ES lore that could make a cool mythic, but balance is an extra concern with weapons. I would like to see Goldbrand, but I am not holding my breath.
  • whitecrow
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    I'm fine with it being cosmetic like the other relics.
  • Cazador
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    I'd rather it just be a cosmetic. Honestly I want more cosmetic artifacts, it's been a while since we've had a new one.
  • Artim_X
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    As a mythic item never, but as a PvP weapon oh yes! Give a player the ability to kill players in their own alliance to strengthen the power of the associated skills and strengthen the amount of health absorbed with each strike.
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  • TaSheen
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    I thought someone had said there wouldn't be any mythic weapons? Not sure I'm remembering right though.
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  • Carcamongus
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    Daedric artifacts are unique items of immense power that often don't stay with their mortal owners for long. They're usually gifted by the Princes to their favorites. How could they remain unique and represent a Daedric privilege granted to a select few if anyone could obtain them? Even worse, if at any one time thousands of identical copies of these artifacts existed? I would genuinely love to wield Spellbreaker or Wabbajack, but in a multiplayer game that would be so lore-breaking that I'd rather they remain purely cosmetic.
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  • Heartrage
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    I do not think weapons should be mythic items as they limit usable skills and as two handed weapons count as two set pieces.
  • SilverIce58
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    I do think mythics could be weapons, but no i dont think daedric artifacts should be them. Most of them are already owned by some npc somewhere, and if not, then they're hidden/moving around.

    Mythic weapons should be powerful cursed weapons from like the 1st era, the merethic era, or the dawn era, or should be some amazing weapon that sloads or snow elves made.
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  • Red_Feather
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    Yes, I would like it as Mythic item.
    I read a wiki page on that weapon and it sounds interesting.

    A mythic item that for every friendly NPC you kill it gets a stack and for every hostile NPC you kill a stack could be removed. I don't know what stacks could do, but it could be interesting to store stacks and keep the weapon on the backbar until needed for a kill.
  • BloodyStigmata
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    There's already an Ebony Blade cosmetic that come around on the crown store from time to time. Sure, it's just cosmetic and you have to pay for it, but if you want to role-play that you have it the option is there. Just slap an absorb health enchantment on it and you're golden.

    As for making it an actual useable mythic item, well, that's probably never gonna happen. Mythic items do seem to be highly unique items lore-wise but not one-of-a-kind artifacts like the daedric ones, and besides, balancing things like that would be tricky at best. How do you make it good without making it busted and without invalidating ability-altering weapons?
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  • TaSheen
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    There's already an Ebony Blade cosmetic that come around on the crown store from time to time. Sure, it's just cosmetic and you have to pay for it, but if you want to role-play that you have it the option is there. Just slap an absorb health enchantment on it and you're golden.

    As for making it an actual useable mythic item, well, that's probably never gonna happen. Mythic items do seem to be highly unique items lore-wise but not one-of-a-kind artifacts like the daedric ones, and besides, balancing things like that would be tricky at best. How do you make it good without making it busted and without invalidating ability-altering weapons?

    Funny thing: it's on the store now - which from my POV is a really GOOD thing, because I'm not going back through Cadwell's silver on anyone else (did it once, that's enough) and I LOVE the Soul Shriven greatsword. The Ebony Blade is pretty close to the identical look for my 2 hand people. So, yeah, got 4 more to buy. I consider that an EXCELLENT use of my ESO+ crowns.
    Edited by TaSheen on October 11, 2022 2:28AM
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  • Sparxlost
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    yes but only if its extremely overpowered
  • SilverIce58
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    TaSheen wrote: »
    There's already an Ebony Blade cosmetic that come around on the crown store from time to time. Sure, it's just cosmetic and you have to pay for it, but if you want to role-play that you have it the option is there. Just slap an absorb health enchantment on it and you're golden.

    As for making it an actual useable mythic item, well, that's probably never gonna happen. Mythic items do seem to be highly unique items lore-wise but not one-of-a-kind artifacts like the daedric ones, and besides, balancing things like that would be tricky at best. How do you make it good without making it busted and without invalidating ability-altering weapons?

    Funny thing: it's on the store now - which from my POV is a really GOOD thing, because I'm not going back through Cadwell's silver on anyone else (did it once, that's enough) and I LOVE the Soul Shriven greatsword. The Ebony Blade is pretty close to the identical look for my 2 hand people. So, yeah, got 4 more to buy. I consider that an EXCELLENT use of my ESO+ crowns.

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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    daedric prince artifacts are not mythic items as they need to be created from pieces dug up.
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  • TaSheen
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    TaSheen wrote: »
    There's already an Ebony Blade cosmetic that come around on the crown store from time to time. Sure, it's just cosmetic and you have to pay for it, but if you want to role-play that you have it the option is there. Just slap an absorb health enchantment on it and you're golden.

    As for making it an actual useable mythic item, well, that's probably never gonna happen. Mythic items do seem to be highly unique items lore-wise but not one-of-a-kind artifacts like the daedric ones, and besides, balancing things like that would be tricky at best. How do you make it good without making it busted and without invalidating ability-altering weapons?

    Funny thing: it's on the store now - which from my POV is a really GOOD thing, because I'm not going back through Cadwell's silver on anyone else (did it once, that's enough) and I LOVE the Soul Shriven greatsword. The Ebony Blade is pretty close to the identical look for my 2 hand people. So, yeah, got 4 more to buy. I consider that an EXCELLENT use of my ESO+ crowns.

    You only have to do it once for the motif.

    Um. I have three accounts, and characters on each both PC NA and EU. That's 5 more times. Ain't hap'nin. Ebony Blade is just fine.
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  • SilverIce58
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    TaSheen wrote: »
    TaSheen wrote: »
    There's already an Ebony Blade cosmetic that come around on the crown store from time to time. Sure, it's just cosmetic and you have to pay for it, but if you want to role-play that you have it the option is there. Just slap an absorb health enchantment on it and you're golden.

    As for making it an actual useable mythic item, well, that's probably never gonna happen. Mythic items do seem to be highly unique items lore-wise but not one-of-a-kind artifacts like the daedric ones, and besides, balancing things like that would be tricky at best. How do you make it good without making it busted and without invalidating ability-altering weapons?

    Funny thing: it's on the store now - which from my POV is a really GOOD thing, because I'm not going back through Cadwell's silver on anyone else (did it once, that's enough) and I LOVE the Soul Shriven greatsword. The Ebony Blade is pretty close to the identical look for my 2 hand people. So, yeah, got 4 more to buy. I consider that an EXCELLENT use of my ESO+ crowns.

    You only have to do it once for the motif.

    Um. I have three accounts, and characters on each both PC NA and EU. That's 5 more times. Ain't hap'nin. Ebony Blade is just fine.

    Well usually people only have 1 account, so that's that.
    Edited by SilverIce58 on October 11, 2022 5:37AM
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  • rpa
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    I do not believe daedric artifacts like Ebony Blade or Spellbreaker or Wabbajack &cet. should be a new OP mythic to grind and to be nerfed in next patch, whatever way it drops. Eventually gaem would have nerfed versions of em all. Better make completely new items to use as disposable power bait.
    Edited by rpa on October 11, 2022 3:28AM
  • Scaletho
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    If I understand correctly. you're talking about the Ebony Blade from Skyrim. It has an absorb health trait, which you can get from glyphs on a much better weapon. Or, you could run the Pale Order ring. Or Leeching Plate. Or...

    The only way for the Ebony Blade to compete with those sets/items already in existence would be to have it absorb more health than those sets which could be potentially game-breaking. 20% from Pale Order is pretty good, so it would have to be 30-40+% in order to use it instead of another weapon on your front bar, right?

    Do you understand that, for the sake of diversity, ZOS could give the blade a specific trait, close to the original but not equal to other ESO mythics or glyphs or leeching or...?

    Oh well. Never mind.
  • El_Borracho
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    Scaletho wrote: »
    If I understand correctly. you're talking about the Ebony Blade from Skyrim. It has an absorb health trait, which you can get from glyphs on a much better weapon. Or, you could run the Pale Order ring. Or Leeching Plate. Or...

    The only way for the Ebony Blade to compete with those sets/items already in existence would be to have it absorb more health than those sets which could be potentially game-breaking. 20% from Pale Order is pretty good, so it would have to be 30-40+% in order to use it instead of another weapon on your front bar, right?

    Do you understand that, for the sake of diversity, ZOS could give the blade a specific trait, close to the original but not equal to other ESO mythics or glyphs or leeching or...?

    Oh well. Never mind.

    So the Ebony Blade but not THE Ebony Blade. LOL
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    Yes, but I prefer it as a Dungeon/Arena special prize.
    It should be an arena weapon or just purely cosmetic.

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    It's currently part of a very specific story, I could see it becoming a dlc I suppose, but I think it should just be cosmetic for the time being
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    Would need to be careful with weapon mythics as at least some are 2 handed. It would certainly add an extra layer of balancing issues as you would sacrifice 2 slots to run them. The other issue is that they would determine your weapon choice if you want to run them. If they were ever meta, then you are basically eliminating entire weapon lines from end game.

    Don't get me wrong, there are definitely some cool unique items from ES lore that could make a cool mythic, but balance is an extra concern with weapons. I would like to see Goldbrand, but I am not holding my breath.

    this is the biggest problem i see on weapon mythics

    if it was a 2h weapon (staff, bow, or 2h melee), it would basically be a replacement for an arena weapon, but it is not modifying any skills, so its effect may be too potent if applied all the time
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  • Vevvev
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    If we're getting a true to life Daedric Artifact they need to treat it like Volendrung and make it a PvP artifact to create a bit of chaos. You see how it's used in the dungeon and having access to those attacks would be pretty cool.

    Making it a simple mythic would devalue it tbh.
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  • Cazador
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    Another issue I thought of-
    To justify it as a daedric artifact it'd have to be very powerful. As a mythic it would have to be balanced against other sets in the game meaning it wouldn't be strong enough to live up to its role as a daedric artifact or it would be too powerful and would need to be nerfed for balance sake. It would fit a bit more nicely in cyrodill, or perhaps as part of a mechanic that lets you use it in a trial or dungeon however.
  • Foxtrot39
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    Daedric artefact shouldn't be obtainable in a permanent way period

    There is only one lore wise so if everyone can run around with it kinda kills the artefact side of it even with ESO lore being a bit all over the place

    Not saying they shouldn't be usable as a mechanic in dungeons like spellbreaker or as temporary weapon like Volendrung

    As long there is only one instance of it at a time and its use is time limited, because deadric artefact are no joke in term of raw power (see Volendrung)
    Edited by Foxtrot39 on October 11, 2022 11:21PM
  • Shadesofkin
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    Foxtrot39 wrote: »
    Daedric artefact shouldn't be obtainable in a permanent way period

    There is only one lore wise so if everyone can run around with it kinda kills the artefact side of it even with ESO lore being a bit all over the place

    Not saying they shouldn't be usable as a mechanic in dungeons like spellbreaker or as temporary weapon like Volendrung

    As long there is only one instance of it at a time and its use is time limited, because deadric artefact are no joke in term of raw power (see Volendrung)

    this is why I'd make it more of a cosmetic thing, like how you can convert any equipment to Imperial if you're Imp, then I'd say if after some cool Vet HM you beat the story, you should get a cosmetic change to any weapon
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  • Remathilis
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    No, I don't mind if the Ebony Blade is just pure cosmetic.
    Nah. Any attempt to make it resemble it's true power would get it nerfed back to oblivion due to PvP.
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    Edited by Holycannoli on October 12, 2022 8:39PM
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