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What are your predictions for U36?

  • gronoxvx
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    Honestly, i cant see then reverting any changes they made in u35 as that would be them admitting they [snip] up. I think they will double down on the changes and make more of them next patch. Im sure they realise that even if they reverted u35 changes, its still too little too late for most and wouldnt draw them back.

    Guess we'll see in a couple of weeks when the next pts cycle starts.

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    Edited by Psiion on September 5, 2022 1:41AM
  • GreatGildersleeve
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    Not much will change I expect. The next pts will likely be out in a couple weeks which isn’t enough time to change much to temper the U35 outrage. Anything that happens will likely already have been in the works for a little while so unfortunately, I expect more of U35… nerfs across the board.
  • tim77
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    They will fix some textures on the back of some paintings and ground some floating flowers
  • Jaraal
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    People saying that ZOS will probably roll back changes need to consider that what was released to live is far less aggressive than their original vision, which was revealed in week one of the PTS.

    Do not be surprised if they complete the original nerfs that they planned for three months before U35, after players have gotten used to three months of the partial loss of damage and healing we just received.
  • rpa
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    Fix which results in breaking more. Adjustment with much larger effect than intended. Nerf to old OP which makes it useless. New completely useless shiny to stay useless forever. New completely broken OP to be nerfed later. Minor changes to combat which only turn it inside out and upside down. Business as usual.
    Edited by rpa on September 2, 2022 3:36AM
  • jtm1018
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    Intro op item/s then nerf.
    Cough'oakensoul'cough
    Etc. Etc.
  • jtm1018
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    Devs...
    Devs never change...
  • OtarTheMad
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    ZOS reading the forums:

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  • N00BxV1
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    i-predict-you-will-find-more-bugs.jpg

    For non English readers: "I predict you will find more bugs."
    Edited by N00BxV1 on September 2, 2022 5:41AM
  • BlueRaven
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    I get a feeling U36 will just be minor tweaking.

    U37 will be further nerfs aimed at the high end player, but instead hitting the average to low end player yet again.
    kwinter wrote: »
    ZOS will likely only make minor combat changes for U36. This was change they made to avoid negativity from changes affecting chapters and DLC releases.

    Yup.
  • LesserCircle
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    I mean, it's nerf or nothing right?
  • NeillMcAttack
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    It’s impossible to predict what they WILL do, but what I would like to see is a move toward more clearly defined roles, both for PvE and PvP.

    ZOS has changed how damage and healing scales on particular abilities many times, moving toward having less emphasis on max resources to stacking W/S power.
    So we have a situation in PvP where now, and for as long as I can remember, stacking HOTs for all members of a ball group is too strong not to use, the same players with resto back bar, also put out massive damage as they all scale from the same stat.
    Something that could upset that would having heals scale differently to promote dedicated healers in groups. This also goes for PvE as healers have for a long time been the easiest role to fill (any DD can be a healer really), or in a lot of content, simply go without a healer.
    I’d also like to see some adjustments to resistance and maybe even penetration. To again better define tanks and the need for them. A role that is almost useless in Cyro is a kind of crowd control/buff/de-buff master to initiate fights or interrupt other initiation. Because everyone is tanky with how current scaling works. Maybe even ways to build for reducing stun immunity or root immunity at the cost of trading tankiness and damage/healing.
    This then leaves heavily invested damage dealers to be reliant on good group coordination, (or just spontaneous support form alliance friendlies) to be able to output that damage without being insta bursted, as the trade offs are REAL trade offs.

    Finally kill the tank meta.. make diverse, role specific groups the Meta. In both PvE and PvP.

    Fingers crossed.

    Edit; Just to add, I feel like if this type of direction was taken. It would help break down the barriers between PvE and PvP, as building in one would be similar to how one builds in the other, depending on the role you want to fill.
    Edited by NeillMcAttack on September 2, 2022 12:15PM
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  • coletas
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    Thats an eaaasy prediction. 1 or 2 new broken extremely broken sets. Nerf of the u35 and u34 sets. More lag. More excuses. Announcement of light nerfs on those 1-2 sets, but keeping them op during all u36. Hardware provider is having problems for delivering that datacenter critical goods. Bring some stupid op or broken things from pts after months of testing. More lag, more excuses and 1 time communication to just ask for patience (but please ,keep up paying eso plus). Ah, and all the important parches like: fixed a plant that didnt grow up after someone walked over it on a remote corner of cyrodill
  • Elsonso
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    More nerfs. More references to some "plan" without actually mentioning what that "plan" is. Removal of initial nerfs, addition of new nerfs as PTS lumbers on. Disrupted builds. Disrupted play. When the spinning wheel stops, it will still require more work in 2023. ... standard stuff... normal PTS cycle.

    Oh... and some Zone. :smile:
    i think it's gonna be really good.

    Same here. Sadly, it is a pain having to wait weeks between good forum dramas. :smile:
    Edited by Elsonso on September 3, 2022 1:29PM
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  • VaranisArano
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    U36: "U35, Part 2"

    ZOS rushed out the final PTS patches to meet the launch date for U35, leaving a lot of the necessary adjustments unfinished. U36 and potentially future updates will be about standardizing all the stuff they threw into the kitchen sink.

    On the one hand, U36 will be more positive, because ZOS will be fixing some of U35's content pain points with data from the Live Server. (But probably not the DPS loss, nor Oakensoul, nor animations.)

    On the other hand, for players who are already tired of change fatigue, U36 and standardization means more changes. There's no getting off this hamster wheel.
  • mochizx
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    1. Changes that nobody asked and using players accessibility as an excuses to get away with it
    2. Changes that nobody asked and using players accessibility as an excuses to get away with it
    3. Changes that nobody asked and using players accessibility as an excuses to get away with it
    ...
  • Jaraal
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    coletas wrote: »
    Thats an eaaasy prediction. 1 or 2 new broken extremely broken sets. Nerf of the u35 and u34 sets. More lag. More excuses. Announcement of light nerfs on those 1-2 sets, but keeping them op during all u36. Hardware provider is having problems for delivering that datacenter critical goods. Bring some stupid op or broken things from pts after months of testing. More lag, more excuses and 1 time communication to just ask for patience (but please ,keep up paying eso plus). Ah, and all the important parches like: fixed a plant that didnt grow up after someone walked over it on a remote corner of cyrodill

    Also probably another promise of a Q&A explaining their motivation behind the new changes that mysteriously gets forgotten about.
  • Jaraal
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    On the one hand, U36 will be more positive, because ZOS will be fixing some of U35's content pain points with data from the Live Server. (But probably not the DPS loss, nor Oakensoul, nor animations.)

    I haven't seen any sort of statement from them to that effect other than that they would make some "adjustments." As far as we know, the pain points could be tweaked even further against us. Let's not forget that their original PTS vision for U35 was much more aggressive in the nerf department than what made it to the live server. It is entirely possible that they simply decided to spread their vision over two updates, rather than hitting us with it all at once with U35.

  • Firstmep
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    They will find another non issue, and change the game around it completely, leaving even more skills and sets in the dust, and never going back fixing them.
  • Hasenpfote
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    They have standardized tanks, healer, dps.

    Each dps now does 30k dps, regardless if they do a rotation or not.
    Tank now take 10k damage per second, regardles if he dodge, blocks or plays the mechanic.
    The healer now allways heals 15k life per second, regardles if he is playing, cooking in the kitchen or laying an egg in bathroom.
  • VaranisArano
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    On the one hand, U36 will be more positive, because ZOS will be fixing some of U35's content pain points with data from the Live Server. (But probably not the DPS loss, nor Oakensoul, nor animations.)

    I haven't seen any sort of statement from them to that effect other than that they would make some "adjustments." As far as we know, the pain points could be tweaked even further against us. Let's not forget that their original PTS vision for U35 was much more aggressive in the nerf department than what made it to the live server. It is entirely possible that they simply decided to spread their vision over two updates, rather than hitting us with it all at once with U35.

    I suspect they've spread out the changes they couldn't fit in before the launch date, but since the first update was heavily loaded with the intended damage nerfs and unpopular animation changes, I expect that the second update will be less bad.

    ZOS knows as well as we do that vocal players are waiting for U36 to see where the Dev team goes with it.

    I'd be surprised if ZOS doesn't try to create the impression that U36 is the better half. And honestly, if they can adjust PVE content and smooth off the rough edges, it'll probably work for players who aren't change fatigued.
  • pikHz
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    My low-confidence guess is they'll not be happy that arena weapons aren't popular on builds right now, so either Rele/Nirn/Depths/whatever nerfs are coming or arena weapon buffs are coming.

    I'm also hoping that the destro staff condition on Winter's Revenge was a bandage while they took more time to test and implement a better change for mag Wardens in U36.
  • Ghaleb
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    pikHz wrote: »
    My low-confidence guess is they'll not be happy that arena weapons aren't popular on builds right now, so either Rele/Nirn/Depths/whatever nerfs are coming or arena weapon buffs are coming.

    FTFY...
  • Jaraal
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    pikHz wrote: »
    My low-confidence guess is they'll not be happy that arena weapons aren't popular on builds right now, so either Rele/Nirn/Depths/whatever nerfs are coming or arena weapon buffs are coming.

    They brought that on themselves by reducing vet boss health 10% everywhere but arenas. Making arenas 20-40% harder depending on class and build is not going to encourage players to complete them. Not to mention that some popular arena weapons, like Maelstrom 2h, got their power severely reduced.
  • Dojohoda
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    The same'o:
    Adjustments
    A new questing area
    New sets and antiquities
    Some bug fixes

    I cannot speculate what sorts of adjustments will be made. I hope it's good stuff.
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  • rexagamemnon
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    ZOS reading the forums:

    putersmash.gif

    Well if that aint the truth…

  • UnabashedlyHonest
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    I predict more of the same.

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    I think Gina lost some kind of bet to be forced into having this picture taken, so no offense intended to her at all, she's a great rep for the company, but this does pretty much sum up what we can expect from ZOS in the future I think.
    Edited by UnabashedlyHonest on September 4, 2022 3:29PM
  • rexagamemnon
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    I predict more of the same.

    gzeaq9syrelk.png

    I think Gina lost some kind of bet to be forced into having this picture taken, so no offense intended to her at all, she's a great rep for the company, but this does pretty much sum up what we can expect from ZOS in the future I think.

    Is this something she did for U35?
  • VaranisArano
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    I predict more of the same.

    gzeaq9syrelk.png

    I think Gina lost some kind of bet to be forced into having this picture taken, so no offense intended to her at all, she's a great rep for the company, but this does pretty much sum up what we can expect from ZOS in the future I think.

    Is this something she did for U35?

    Halloween 2019, as far as I can tell.
  • merpins
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    I predict sadness.
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