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Suggestion: Body Hair Slider

edward_frigidhands
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Hello,

So as the title states, since there is talk of updates to the game's engine for the purposes of improving server performance I would like to suggest updates to character creation and appearance with new options to better modify how you represent yourself.

One good start would be a decent body hair slider with some adequate starter options.

Thoughts and counter-suggestions welcome.
  • Artim_X
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    Make it so!
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    (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
    Electric-Burn/Stun
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    • Damage Dealing Build.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Rage of the Ursauk jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.
    Electric-Heal
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    • My Healer Build.
    • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
    Electric-Ward
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    • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Max Mag Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
    Electric-Vamp
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Shatter Soul.
    Dawnfang
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that only utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (Infused/shock enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward, and Crescent Sweep.
    Duskfang
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on head and everything else Magicka Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Max Health Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant/Stealth-Draining Poison IX), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1:Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver (Shatter Soul).
    PvE Starter Gear
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    • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
    • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
    Race
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    • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
    Mundus Stones
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    • PvP: The Lover for penetration when playing a sorc or temp.
    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
    Current Champion Points
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    • DPS Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Thaumaturge, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvE Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    Favorite Foods and Potions
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    • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
  • KiltMaster
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    Definitely agree! Sometimes you need to be an otter and sometimes you need to be a bear.

    Would this include fur-length options for Khajiits? :smiley: A long-haried khajiit sounds cool
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  • edward_frigidhands
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    KiltMaster wrote: »
    Definitely agree! Sometimes you need to be an otter and sometimes you need to be a bear.

    Would this include fur-length options for Khajiits? :smiley: A long-haried khajiit sounds cool

    I didn't even think of that.

    it would be amazing to have some unique new options for our furry/scaly friends who have chosen a Khajiit or Argonian avatar to represent themselves.

    Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.
  • Auldwulfe
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    KiltMaster wrote: »
    Definitely agree! Sometimes you need to be an otter and sometimes you need to be a bear.

    Would this include fur-length options for Khajiits? :smiley: A long-haried khajiit sounds cool

    I didn't even think of that.

    it would be amazing to have some unique new options for our furry/scaly friends who have chosen a Khajiit or Argonian avatar to represent themselves.

    Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.

    Scale size, and maybe texture-- some scales appear rough or somewhat spike, like Bearded Dragons

    Auldwulfe
  • edward_frigidhands
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    Auldwulfe wrote: »
    KiltMaster wrote: »
    Definitely agree! Sometimes you need to be an otter and sometimes you need to be a bear.

    Would this include fur-length options for Khajiits? :smiley: A long-haried khajiit sounds cool

    I didn't even think of that.

    it would be amazing to have some unique new options for our furry/scaly friends who have chosen a Khajiit or Argonian avatar to represent themselves.

    Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.

    Scale size, and maybe texture-- some scales appear rough or somewhat spike, like Bearded Dragons

    Auldwulfe

    I like that idea.
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    If I want to play a sasquatch, I should be able to play a sasquatch damn it!
  • Araneae6537
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    I’m always in favor of more options to customize our characters! B)
  • opalcity
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    KiltMaster wrote: »
    Definitely agree! Sometimes you need to be an otter and sometimes you need to be a bear.

    Would this include fur-length options for Khajiits? :smiley: A long-haried khajiit sounds cool

    I didn't even think of that.

    it would be amazing to have some unique new options for our furry/scaly friends who have chosen a Khajiit or Argonian avatar to represent themselves.

    Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.

    More Feathers for Argonians! Funky chest plumage.
  • Grizzbeorn
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    Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.

    Feathers?
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    Or additional/longer horns..
    Edited by Grizzbeorn on September 1, 2022 11:40AM
      PC/NA Warden Main
    • edward_frigidhands
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      Grizzbeorn wrote: »
      Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.

      Feathers?
      T1PZe64.jpg

      Or additional/longer horns..

      Where is that from?
    • Foxhearted
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      I'm all for more customization but at this point I'm doubtful they change anything with the creator. I'd be positively surprised if they did
    • TheGreatBlackBear
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      I want different underwear types. Those ugly black boxers/maternity panties ain't cutting it in 2022.
    • Dr_Con
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      I'm fine with the current presets. If it's not broke don't fix it.

      Also... fur sheds, so Khajiits should not have long fur as others have suggested. Maybe whiskers, or prominent facial features, that's about it.
    • Drammanoth
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      Oh, that would be a grat idea!
      My wishlist for ESO
      I.Skills:
      >>weapons: Polearms, Unarmed, Crossbow

      >>Sorc's Twilight - perched animation

      >>a skill line - a guild having this - to enable us to increase % gold gain for donating Ornate gear (another gold sink in order to gain more pennies - but over time it would pay off)

      II.Overland Mechanics
      >>tree climing in Grahtwood / Malabal Tor / Greenshade, etc. (with tall trees)

      >>rock climbing in Glenumbra / Rivenspire / Stonefalls, etc. (with tall peaks)

      >>new skill lines - Adventure (enable climbing, increase flora and fauna harvesting chances)

      III.CP 2.0
      >>Craft Tree development --> https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/594079/idea-craft-cp-sub-tree-ideas-constant-wip#latest

      III.Replayable content in overland
      >>dynamic pocket rifts to Oblivion - eg. to Vaermina's in Stormhaven, Boethiah's in Deshaan, Hircine's in the Rift OR in Bankgorai, etc. to get Daedric Sets relevant to the Prince, something like Oblivion rifts in Blackwood / the Deadlands

      IV.Geography
      >>Pyandonea - we had some quests WITH Maormer (Summerset, High Isle) - maybe we could meet them there? Poke poke, nudge nudge, wink wink, eh ZOS?

      >>Norg-Tzel - for Mara's sake, ZOS, REMOVE it from the list please!

      V.Other
      (the ideas are also inspired by other Forum Users' posts)
      >>pet battles! We collect SO MANY pets, and yet there are just a cosmetic. What a HUGE potential lies within those tiny beats!

      >>ASOC - a new server in Asia and Oceania. If people have a bad ping there, it would be great if they had a server reaching their places more easily. And hey, it would make THREE servers, not two.

      >>highlighting WBs that are being fought

      >>possibility to dye barding

      >>possibility to switch UI between guild bank<-->bank<-->guild trader

      >>display the dialogue options so that we can see which answer the NPC is reacting to

      >>a way to make Overland more challenging - for those who want
    • Araneae6537
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      Dr_Con wrote: »
      I'm fine with the current presets. If it's not broke don't fix it.

      Also... fur sheds, so Khajiits should not have long fur as others have suggested. Maybe whiskers, or prominent facial features, that's about it.

      But cats do have different fur lengths, so why not? I think the problem would be how it would be rendered as currently it’s a skin and longer fur might have to be part of the actual model to look right if even possible, Idk.

      As for “if it’s not broke,” I’m certainly never for ZOS removing current options for our characters, “fixing” what isn’t broke, but new options are great for people who like them and those who don’t can continue using what they have before. :)
    • JKorr
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      Grizzbeorn wrote: »
      Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.

      Feathers?
      T1PZe64.jpg

      Or additional/longer horns..

      Where is that from?

      New Jurassic Park movie, Dominion?
    • edward_frigidhands
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      Dr_Con wrote: »
      If it's not broke don't fix it.

      I am not sure that is how ZOS does things. Just look at Update 34 and 35.
    • Soarora
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      I wish at least body hair could have different colors. It’s odd seeing my Dunmer with white hair and white eyebrows have black body hair!
      PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore
    • Dr_Con
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      Dr_Con wrote: »
      If it's not broke don't fix it.

      I am not sure that is how ZOS does things. Just look at Update 34 and 35.

      There's several presets to hairstyles already and this is just another thing they'll need to keep updating as hair will clip through certain armor unless they make it a collidable, which if they don't make it collide will be buggy which will require more dev hours to fix, and if they do make it collidable it will sacrifice performance for a slight cosmetic upgrade which may still be buggy anyways and interact with different motifs in odd ways. Unpopular opinion, but I stand my ground on it.
      Edited by Dr_Con on September 1, 2022 5:58PM
    • ArchMikem
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      You can be shaggilicious when I can finally customize my Khajiit's tail.
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      Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
    • Syldras
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      Soarora wrote: »
      I wish at least body hair could have different colors. It’s odd seeing my Dunmer with white hair and white eyebrows have black body hair!

      It's odd seing my Dunmer (young-looking, slender, picky in terms of clothes, hair and facepaint/makeup - he's quite vain, actually) with that much chest hair at all. Also:

      kobtbcpu59vz.png

      :p
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      Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
      Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
      Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
    • MJ202
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      Grizzbeorn wrote: »
      Body hair options on an Argonian could be replaced with something else that is more reptilian. Open to suggestions here.

      Feathers?
      T1PZe64.jpg

      Or additional/longer horns..

      Where is that from?

      Jurassic World - Dominion
    • rexagamemnon
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      More options for physical characteristics would be nice. And i also dont like how body specific dimensions are available sometimes to only one race. Golden example would be orcs, they can be the most muscular/fat of all the races. And why is the fat option not really big at all🤷🏻‍♂️
    • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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      Syldras wrote: »
      Soarora wrote: »
      I wish at least body hair could have different colors. It’s odd seeing my Dunmer with white hair and white eyebrows have black body hair!

      It's odd seing my Dunmer (young-looking, slender, picky in terms of clothes, hair and facepaint/makeup - he's quite vain, actually) with that much chest hair at all. Also:
      kobtbcpu59vz.png

      :p

      Same goes for my Nibenese imperial. He definitely grooms himself.
      [Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!
    • M_Volsung
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      Considering the number of times my character has been set on fire, I'm amazed they have any hair at all...
      "In the Deep Halls, Far from Men;
      Forsaken Red Mountain, Twisted Kin;
      Hail the Mind, Hail the Stone;
      Dwarven Pride, Stronger than Bone"

      —Dwemer Inquiries I-III, Thelwe Ghelein
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