PvP Borked

Orlaxx · September 2022

I understand that the new gimmicky sets are a means of retention but now the game is borked. Ball groups are passe now. Three players on Fare's walls have been unkillable for an hour. When folks stop chasing, they flag. Yesterday I unloaded 100k on a player at a flag and his health never got below half. All burst DD. No dots. C'mon. I don't mind some little kid from Des Moine playing tough guy with Dswing and DB, but I should have a shot at challenging him. Gear should not be the sole arbiter of an encounter.

taugrim · September 2022

There are a lot of people currently cheesing with Mara's Balm. I look forward to when that set gets balanced (nerfed) on 9/5.

But yes, time-to-kill is higher across the board as damage is generally lower.

DrSlaughtr · September 2022

Until they make the choice between damage and survivability a more significant decision by players, we will always deal with situations like this.

You can be 35k health, 33k armor power tank with 7k damage. There's no reason to build to be an actual tank or an actual DPS cannon.

martinhpb16_ESO · September 2022

Current meta is stale

MEBengalsFan2001 · September 2022

Overhealing with high resistance is how you Survive especially with lower damage output.

Rohamad_Ali · September 2022

House decorating time. Prayers for quick patches on the new goofy sets. It's the same after every major update. Those that did their homework enjoy the sets they warned about during the testing but the devs never have time to adjust until 2nd major patch or later.

soniku4ikblis · September 2022

This patch basically is terribly unfun.

The work put into it is embarrassing.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO · September 2022

Yeah its a pretty good patch to take a break from eso. I am NOT saying you should quit, but with how bad pvp and pve are there is much better games out there right now. Play some other games while you wait for update 36 and pray it isn't just as bad or worse then 35. Let the wanna be 1vXers have their fun while getting carried by their obscene defense. They will be put back in their place eventually(I hope).

geonsocal · September 2022

maybe when i'm the last one playing i can finally become emperor...probably not...

Master_Kas · September 2022

geonsocal wrote: »

maybe when i'm the last one playing i can finally become emperor...probably not...

But will you be emperor, if there's noone there to witness? :>

martinhpb16_ESO · September 2022

Master_Kas wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

maybe when i'm the last one playing i can finally become emperor...probably not...

But will you be emperor, if there's noone there to witness? :>

The Devs will witness and decide that the one true Emperor needs 'balancing'.

Firstmep · September 2022

ninjagank wrote: »

Until they make the choice between damage and survivability a more significant decision by players, we will always deal with situations like this.

You can be 35k health, 33k armor power tank with 7k damage. There's no reason to build to be an actual tank or an actual DPS cannon.

This pretty much. And if you dont go that route yourself, you are limping your build.
I see ppl with glass cannon high dmg builds fall over in 2 seconds when someone in a tanky setup looks at them.
That being said, I dont think this is ever gonna get fixed.

Firstmep · September 2022

I've been checking cmx, and I offload 30k dmg into a player in 1 second, and they're back to full before my gcd allows me to use an execute.

xFocused · September 2022

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

Current meta is stale

Agreed. Everyone is running the same handful of builds or gear and it's just...boring. I'm finding it hard to login most days

Katheriah · September 2022

taugrim wrote: »

There are a lot of people currently cheesing with Mara's Balm. I look forward to when that set gets balanced (nerfed) on 9/5.

The nerf is said to be about 50% for the healing part, which still makes it very strong.

Tommy_The_Gun · September 2022

I wanted to suggest that maybe it is time to move to No CP / No Proc, but then it hited me, so:

Unpopular opinion: If most PvP Players wanted "balance" - they would actually move to play in No CP / No Proc campaign.

But seeing how No CP / No Proc campaign is almost always dead empty, makes me think that most PvP-ers in this game actually want to be OP & for the game to be unbalanced. They are the target audience. Small, but still - they are the audience, and ZOS is making broken gear / skills / classes for them.

DrSlaughtr · September 2022

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I wanted to suggest that maybe it is time to move to No CP / No Proc, but then it hited me, so:

Unpopular opinion: If most PvP Players wanted "balance" - they would actually move to play in No CP / No Proc campaign.

But seeing how No CP / No Proc campaign is almost always dead empty, makes me think that most PvP-ers in this game actually want to be OP & for the game to be unbalanced. They are the target audience. Small, but still - they are the audience, and ZOS is making broken gear / skills / classes for them.

Speaking only for myself, I worked a long time to get to my CP level. It allows me to further customize my character to fit my play style. I also mostly play NB which has the worst sustain out of the box, so much of my ability to stay in fights comes from red CP. Slippery and expert evasion helps save stamina. Bloody renewal gives me back stamina on kills.

Also as a stealth blade I need speed to keep up with people running. Without the CP speed boosts I'm very slow, even with wild hunt. It makes staying engaged in a fight very difficult , as well as not being able to defend as well.

I would have loved if BR was made no proc, but alas they lumped it in with no CP.

I wish they would add one 7 day CP no proc campaign.

OBJnoob · September 2022

A CP no proc campaign would be awesome.

I will agree with tommy though, I think to a certain extent he's right whether the players realize it about themselves or not. Using the last post as an example... Having to build for some stam sustain and not necessarily being able to run invis at speed cap all the time... These are some of the lesser things that while not broken gear or totally game breaking it helps balance to not have them around.

People talk about hating gear sets doing damage or healing for you but its okay to make breakfree and roll dodge automatic or free? To a lesser extent its really part of the same can of worms isn't it?

Another example... If you hate plague break and vicious death but are okay with occult overload then I feel that is also inconsistent.

Can't blame people for wanting to experience the "whole" game but still... You would expect more of the complainers to try something else, no?

YandereGirlfriend · September 2022

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I wanted to suggest that maybe it is time to move to No CP / No Proc, but then it hited me, so:

Unpopular opinion: If most PvP Players wanted "balance" - they would actually move to play in No CP / No Proc campaign.

But seeing how No CP / No Proc campaign is almost always dead empty, makes me think that most PvP-ers in this game actually want to be OP & for the game to be unbalanced. They are the target audience. Small, but still - they are the audience, and ZOS is making broken gear / skills / classes for them.

Eh, this isn't the reason that Ravenwatch is dead.

You cite balance but that's not at all true. In Raven, there are several powerful defensive sets (that are most definitely "proc" - sets like Pariah) that are allowed by the ruleset but very few high-quality offensive sets.

Further, there is no longer any mechanic to punish faction-stacking so the side with the highest numbers wins, in the long run, nearly all of the time.

The combination of limited build options + the campaign being permanently zerged by the same faction is what has killed PC-NA Ravenwatch.

ZOS_Volpe · September 2022

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