Does anyone feel like update 35 is similar to old craglorn

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

Does anyone feel like update 35 is old craglorn. Like a niche group liked old craglorn while most of just never went there.

It was a fine idea on paper, but experience wise people just didn't adventure there so they changed it.

martinhpb16_ESO · August 2022

No they are different things.

BTW I liked old Craglorn.

People whined because they wanted it all, without leaving anything for the people who like it as was.

Now loads of people whine because we have homogenised easy content.

Update 35 is affecting the whole game in many different ways

MaraxusTheOrc · August 2022

I liked old Craglorn. It was novel. Bring more old Craglorn into the game I say.

I_killed_Vivec · August 2022

I loved old Craglorn, it was a test. If you didn't want to be tested then don't go there.

It was caught up in One Tamriel - a lot of people asked that it be left out of the levelling (down) process, so that we could have one area that was different, but the devs knew better...

U35, I don't know yet, too soon to tell. A few people are vey vocal on the forum about it, but I'm not sure they are all being honest. I saw someone say they used to be able to solo vet content but now struggle to do normal... I'm not sure that's reasonable.

But I don't' see having to evolve my char, changing a coupe of skills, experimenting with new gear, as a bad thing.

Ratzkifal · August 2022

The reason I liked old Craglorn and hate this update is that going to old Craglorn was a choice. I did not get to choose whether I would continue playing in Update 34 or move on to Update 35.

Beardimus · August 2022

Old craglorn fan here. But not kept up to speed with forum or the changes.

Can anyone summerise the comparison @FeedbackOnly ?

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

Beardimus wrote: »

Old craglorn fan here. But not kept up to speed with forum or the changes.

Can anyone summerise the comparison @FeedbackOnly ?

People wanted harder content, but practice people didn't just didn't participate

deleted221205-002626 · August 2022

I agree Old Crag was the best thing they ever did! Brought people together

deleted221205-002626 · August 2022

Beardimus wrote: »

Old craglorn fan here. But not kept up to speed with forum or the changes.

Can anyone summerise the comparison @FeedbackOnly ?

When it came out it was not soloable content. I guess maybe it was for some but barely

FeedbackOnly · August 2022

sinnereso wrote: »

I agree Old Crag was the best thing they ever did! Brought people together

ESO caters to solo experience. Finding a group for old craglorn didn't happen often as don't have such activity finder.

It's like being a trial leader waiting 30 mins to find a group. This isn't a good expectation

On topic update 35 expects mid tier and low players to adapt without helping them at all. Just like old craglorn they wanted us to group without giving us the right tools

Update 35 was poorly thought in people engagement perspective

Faulgor · August 2022

People keep drawing the wrong conclusions from Craglorn's failure, imo.

The problems were
a) Questing content could only be done in groups, and everyone had to be at the same quest stage. It made doing content such a hassle that many people just didn't bother.
b) The Veteran Rank system was a soul draining grind.
c) Terrible rewards all around.

Not really seeing the similarity to update 35.

Jaimeh · August 2022

No, because at the time Craglorn was the challenging part of the content. It wasn't made artificially difficult by lowering damage. I completed the zone before it changed (I had to ask for a couple of people to help me open a portal at some point) and doing that solo was a very rewarding experience. However, having something like vMA take double the time to complete now is not the same experience; clearing old content you are familiar with more slowly is neither rewarding nor fun.