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All Classes except DK, NB & Templar now pointless
DizzyMac
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I HAD reasonably high damage (pvp) magsorc, magcro and stamden characters. With this single update all of them still have high stats BUT do damage the equivalent of being coughed on by a mouse.
I've spoke to at least 20 people so far and all are saying the same things about their character except DKs, NBs & Templars, seems those 3 are more powerful and have better shields & healing than before the update. great way to play pvp - if you dont run a DK, NB or Plar then you are just fodder.
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Edited by ZOS_Suserial on August 22, 2022 7:39PM I've spoke to at least 20 people so far and all are saying the same things about their character except DKs, NBs & Templars, seems those 3 are more powerful and have better shields & healing than before the update. great way to play pvp - if you dont run a DK, NB or Plar then you are just fodder.
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UnassumingNoob✭✭✭✭Take Templar out of your mouth please. The spammable got triple nerfed. Gutted skill. Honestly not sure how we can line up burst with the class anymore.
Edit:Classic style Templar I should say. The bow and crushing weapons destro look interesting but is not the iconic Templar style.Edited by UnassumingNoob on August 22, 2022 1:36PM22 -
Remathilis✭✭✭✭✭
✭DK is fine if you get them in your first burst. Mundis help you if they survive and your resources are at 0.
As for NB, hope your gank hits because your dead in the water and spamming cloak if it doesn't.
All the classes are in bad shape. And not in a "tradeoffs and play style" way.Edited by Remathilis on August 22, 2022 1:38PM5 -
Jazraena✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah. It's really mostly a 'who got hit worse' deal, but nobody is better than before.8 -
nb_rich✭✭✭Im assuming your talking about PvP. But in PvE besides Tenplars, Necros and DKs everything else is useless lol, NBs being the worse. Guess we can all agree Warden the worst class currently as a whole.
Only way I can see things getting better for classes is if they start working on a third morph for all class skills to balance out the areas they lack in. Nurfing/Buffing/Reworking a class skill just causes frustration in the community since it can “kill” a class or cause it to be too strong/weak in either PvE or PvPnb_rich0 -
MaraxusTheOrc✭✭✭✭✭My DK, NB, and templar all felt noticeably weaker this morning in PvE content. Not sure who you're talking to, but seems there might be a bit of bias if they're telling you DK/NB/templar are all much better off.7
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Foxtrot39✭✭✭✭Talking nerf beside the blanket DPS nerf, is no point comparing class on changes that hits everyone the same way2 -
Mythgard1967✭✭✭✭✭My Warden soul is in denial and sobbing...if I just dont log in, it never happened right?
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nb_rich✭✭✭Im assuming your talking about PvP. But in PvE besides Tenplars, Necros and DKs everything else is useless lol, NBs being the worse. Guess we can all agree Warden the worst class currently as a whole.
Only way I can see things getting better for classes is if they start working on a third morph for all class skills to balance out the areas they lack in. Nurfing/Buffing/Reworking a class skill just causes frustration in the community since it can “kill” a class or cause it to be too strong/weak in either PvE or PvP
My fault I meant to replace DKs with Wardens. I think Wardens to crazy bleed in PvE. I dont have a Warden or DK so I wouldn’t know but whay I do know is every Vet trial I go into only has Templars and Necros (dps) and a warden or two here and there. NBa and DKs are rare to me now even sorcs.nb_rich0 -
Rogue_WolfESO✭✭✭✭I have been logged on for an hour and ran a dungeon with my stamdk. Feels very weak compared to yesterday. Not very impressed at all with any of the changes. Already miss my 1 shot heavy attack magblade. Again, too much has changed too quickly. Nerf sledgehammer has been replaced with a wrecking ball.6
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nb_rich✭✭✭MaraxusTheOrc wrote: »My DK, NB, and templar all felt noticeably weaker this morning in PvE content. Not sure who you're talking to, but seems there might be a bit of bias if they're telling you DK/NB/templar are all much better off.
My stamplar shreds any content so maybe you need to look at your sets (if your referring to PvE). Just completed VKA last night, didn’t even have to do any bosses more then once and the group was full of Templarsnb_rich0 -
Ghaleb✭✭✭✭✭MaraxusTheOrc wrote: »My DK, NB, and templar all felt noticeably weaker this morning in PvE content. Not sure who you're talking to, but seems there might be a bit of bias if they're telling you DK/NB/templar are all much better off.
My stamplar shreds any content so maybe you need to look at your sets (if your referring to PvE). Just completed VKA last night, didn’t even have to do any bosses more then once and the group was full of Templars
He is talking about today, after U35 has been rolled out. What your Templar did yesterday doesn’t matter anymore. 🤷🏻♂️19 -
MaraxusTheOrc✭✭✭✭✭MaraxusTheOrc wrote: »My DK, NB, and templar all felt noticeably weaker this morning in PvE content. Not sure who you're talking to, but seems there might be a bit of bias if they're telling you DK/NB/templar are all much better off.
My stamplar shreds any content so maybe you need to look at your sets (if your referring to PvE). Just completed VKA last night, didn’t even have to do any bosses more then once and the group was full of Templars
You seem to be missing the context of the patch today. I'm very happy for what you did last night. Now use last night as a reference point for post-patch, and let us know how VKA with a group full of templars goes.
My templar went from "this is OP and broken, it needs a nerf" to "oh my...they uh...they really, really nerfed it didn't they."7 -
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Thank you and you know what it is. I play on console so the update didn’t hit me yet lol. Guess i better enjoy it while I can or hopefully they hear people like you and fix things before the patch hits consoleMaraxusTheOrc wrote: »MaraxusTheOrc wrote: »My DK, NB, and templar all felt noticeably weaker this morning in PvE content. Not sure who you're talking to, but seems there might be a bit of bias if they're telling you DK/NB/templar are all much better off.
My stamplar shreds any content so maybe you need to look at your sets (if your referring to PvE). Just completed VKA last night, didn’t even have to do any bosses more then once and the group was full of Templars
You seem to be missing the context of the patch today. I'm very happy for what you did last night. Now use last night as a reference point for post-patch, and let us know how VKA with a group full of templars goes.
My templar went from "this is OP and broken, it needs a nerf" to "oh my...they uh...they really, really nerfed it didn't they."nb_rich2 -
Al_Ex_Andre✭✭✭Looking forward to run vet Maelstrom arena again, I was on my way collecting all loot there right before the new patch...and I am dowloading it right now. If I cannot do that properly, time to move on? We will see.0 -
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✭UnassumingNoob wrote: »Take Templar out of your mouth please. The spammable got triple nerfed. Gutted skill. Honestly not sure how we can line up burst with the class anymore.
Edit:Classic style Templar I should say. The bow and crushing weapons destro look interesting but is not the iconic Templar style.
Yeah maybe the op wasn't aware of that. Take Templar off yo list lol.Thank you for your attention to this matter.2 -
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✭✭✭UnassumingNoob wrote: »Take Templar out of your mouth please. The spammable got triple nerfed. Gutted skill. Honestly not sure how we can line up burst with the class anymore.
Edit:Classic style Templar I should say. The bow and crushing weapons destro look interesting but is not the iconic Templar style.
Agreed. In triplicate.2 -
nb_rich✭✭✭Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »Looking forward to run vet Maelstrom arena again, I was on my way collecting all loot there right before the new patch...and I am dowloading it right now. If I cannot do that properly, time to move on? We will see.
Damn after work i got to do this a few times then. I think on console the patch doesn’t hit until the 6th of Septembernb_rich0 -
YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭All Wardens can safely go into hibernation with their bears for the next 6-12 months because it will take at least that long for the developers to get this class back into a useful state.5 -
VadimAleks✭✭✭Talking nerf beside the blanket DPS nerf, is no point comparing class on changes that hits everyone the same way
What should my werewolf do? He has NO other skills. 57% of my damage was LA. Now, after LA nerf, LA sets nerf, and Claws nerf, my real dps has dropped by 40%. Where I used to have 21k dps, today it was 12k. Average LA was 9k, now 7k.No more levels and skills, only degradation!2 -
Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yada Yada.
Same old. Nothing new here that we haven't experienced in the past.
Enjoy the meta
PS: I did VMA on my templar a while back after a long break (about a 7 months ago) and it was far too easy...so... Edited by Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo on August 22, 2022 4:47PM1 -
Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
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Nope, but it's representative of survival and damage. Just to point out an old Templar veteran's happenings
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Dulkur✭✭✭A high skill Sorc (PvP) is the most amazingly powerful thing in the game, I doubt that changed. Losing some of the overpowered ridiculous things over the years hasn't changed anything, just raised the skill floor. No class should have the training wheels DK gets to roll around with in PvP.
I would happily trade any Warden skill for the nerfed version of crystal weapons.0 -
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This is a joke.PC | EU
Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
"You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."2 -
RNGeeze✭✭✭Yada Yada.
Same old. Nothing new here that we haven't experienced in the past.
Enjoy the meta
PS: I did VMA on my templar a while back after a long break (about a 7 months ago) and it was far too easy...so...
Templar has been in a great place for a while now but don’t think that makes everything trivial. I was running Dooma’s hard to fail magplar build with Hexo’s and Iceheart (though with High Isle broke the monster set for Oken) and still couldn’t finish Vet Vashran. Normal was a walk in the park almost to a comical level but the mechanics and knowing what to expect and where are crucial bits of info many of us still struggle with even when the stars align as the gap between the two difficulties is steep.
I play in console so luckily I get some time before this rather tragic update hits but this patch feels like it’ll be a rocky ride.1 -
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✭✭Templars are useless om 35. This post is extremely "tell me you're just talking without knowing what you're talking about, without telling me."
Jabs is ruined both in damage and in visuals, Burning Light is practically useless, the class is considered "better off" if it uses absolutely nothing from its class kit...
Tell me again how Templars aren't pointless?3