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Vampire stamDK tank viable for pvp?
Nyseto
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I’m pretty new to ESO, got a level 28 DK nord with almost maxed out werewolf. I really like the Achilles archetype from Troy being able to tank whilst being agile. I hate how werewolf passives are dependent on the transformation unlike vampire. As a matter of fact, what about a stamblade vampire tank?
And two noob questions: does an ability of a skill line like draconic power for example need to be slotted in order to get the passives? Do I get skill points refunded for curing lycanthropy or do I have to respec? I’ve read both so idk which one
And two noob questions: does an ability of a skill line like draconic power for example need to be slotted in order to get the passives? Do I get skill points refunded for curing lycanthropy or do I have to respec? I’ve read both so idk which one
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well, this patch it is viable. Not so sure about next patch. The sustain nerf from the current patch hasn't hit StamDKs in PvP just yet because Oakensoul can compensate for it. But with Oakensoul getting some hefty nerfs next patch I fear stamDKs will be a lot weaker next patch, even if Whip will have a hybrid cost (which I don't think is that useful actually).
Time will tell I suppose. Unless anyone on PTS already got something figured out and wants to share it here.
As for your other questions. I'm not sure I understand the first one correct. Of course you need to slot an ability to use it. Some passives require you to slot an ability of a certain type to be active.
And yes you get your skill points refunded for curing lycanthropy. That wasn't always the case so that's why there is conflicting info out there.
No I’m not asking if you have to slot an ability to use it. I’m asking, do you have to slot an ability of a skill line to get the passives of that skill line? For example do I need to have an ability such as spiked armor from the draconic power skill line in order to have the iron skin passive active?
There are passives with such requirements, but they will state it in the tooltip. Iron Skin isn't one of them.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, this patch it is viable. Not so sure about next patch. The sustain nerf from the current patch hasn't hit StamDKs in PvP just yet because Oakensoul can compensate for it. But with Oakensoul getting some hefty nerfs next patch I fear stamDKs will be a lot weaker next patch, even if Whip will have a hybrid cost (which I don't think is that useful actually).
Time will tell I suppose. Unless anyone on PTS already got something figured out and wants to share it here.
As for your other questions. I'm not sure I understand the first one correct. Of course you need to slot an ability to use it. Some passives require you to slot an ability of a certain type to be active.
And yes you get your skill points refunded for curing lycanthropy. That wasn't always the case so that's why there is conflicting info out there.
No I’m not asking if you have to slot an ability to use it. I’m asking, do you have to slot an ability of a skill line to get the passives of that skill line? For example do I need to have an ability such as spiked armor from the draconic power skill line in order to have the iron skin passive active?
Well, I did give you the answer to that question as well. Some passives have such requirements and others don't. To give you the full in-depth answer in regards to DKs...
In the Draconic Power skill line you have Burning Heart that requires a draconic power skill to be active for it to work and Elder Dragon only increases health recovery for draconic power skills slotted, but the range increase to your abilities is always active regardless. Iron Skin and Scaled Armor both don't have any requirements.
In Ardent Flame there are no passives with requirements, but some obviously only work on Ardent Flame abilities, like Warmth and Searing Heat.
And finally in Earthen Heart there are no slottable requirements again but passives that only work in tandem with these abilities like Eternal Mountain only increasing the duration of earthen heart abilities and Mountain's Blessing only granting minor brutality after activating an earthen heart ability.Edited by Ratzkifal on August 12, 2022 5:50PMThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0
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Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, this patch it is viable. Not so sure about next patch. The sustain nerf from the current patch hasn't hit StamDKs in PvP just yet because Oakensoul can compensate for it. But with Oakensoul getting some hefty nerfs next patch I fear stamDKs will be a lot weaker next patch, even if Whip will have a hybrid cost (which I don't think is that useful actually).
Time will tell I suppose. Unless anyone on PTS already got something figured out and wants to share it here.
As for your other questions. I'm not sure I understand the first one correct. Of course you need to slot an ability to use it. Some passives require you to slot an ability of a certain type to be active.
And yes you get your skill points refunded for curing lycanthropy. That wasn't always the case so that's why there is conflicting info out there.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭werewolf in pvp is very very situational...not too useful at all in many siege situations...depending on the opponent - not so great either in some 1 v 1's...i think i have like maybe 7 or so toons with lycanthropy...
i definitely don't slot the ultimate as much as i used to...best advice i got reference builds and werewolf - it helps a lot if you build around playing while transformed...
werewolf is a blast though in the right conditions - fighting outside of outposts and in an open battlefield environment...
i have a few active vamps (mag dk, stamblade, necro mag) sitting at stage 3 and fighting in cyrodiil...they all do fine...
active abilities are not that good, the ultimate scion is pretty cool...don't use it too much anymore though...like everyone else - i use vamp for the role playing and passives...Edited by geonsocal on August 13, 2022 6:33AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
Nyseto✭✭✭Well, this patch it is viable. Not so sure about next patch. The sustain nerf from the current patch hasn't hit StamDKs in PvP just yet because Oakensoul can compensate for it. But with Oakensoul getting some hefty nerfs next patch I fear stamDKs will be a lot weaker next patch, even if Whip will have a hybrid cost (which I don't think is that useful actually).
Time will tell I suppose. Unless anyone on PTS already got something figured out and wants to share it here.
As for your other questions. I'm not sure I understand the first one correct. Of course you need to slot an ability to use it. Some passives require you to slot an ability of a certain type to be active.
And yes you get your skill points refunded for curing lycanthropy. That wasn't always the case so that's why there is conflicting info out there.
No I’m not asking if you have to slot an ability to use it. I’m asking, do you have to slot an ability of a skill line to get the passives of that skill line? For example do I need to have an ability such as spiked armor from the draconic power skill line in order to have the iron skin passive active?
Edited by Nyseto on August 12, 2022 3:57PM0 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, this patch it is viable. Not so sure about next patch. The sustain nerf from the current patch hasn't hit StamDKs in PvP just yet because Oakensoul can compensate for it. But with Oakensoul getting some hefty nerfs next patch I fear stamDKs will be a lot weaker next patch, even if Whip will have a hybrid cost (which I don't think is that useful actually).
Time will tell I suppose. Unless anyone on PTS already got something figured out and wants to share it here.
As for your other questions. I'm not sure I understand the first one correct. Of course you need to slot an ability to use it. Some passives require you to slot an ability of a certain type to be active.
And yes you get your skill points refunded for curing lycanthropy. That wasn't always the case so that's why there is conflicting info out there.
No I’m not asking if you have to slot an ability to use it. I’m asking, do you have to slot an ability of a skill line to get the passives of that skill line? For example do I need to have an ability such as spiked armor from the draconic power skill line in order to have the iron skin passive active?
No, many class passives work without the abilities needing to be slotted. If the passive doesn't specifically say something needs to be slotted or active it's on by default 100% of the time.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Would the Templar class be better suited for the Spartan/Greek archetype?
If you're talking spears.... yes. They're the only class with a spear weapon, although all classes can do the shield + sword thing.Edited by Vevvev on August 12, 2022 11:39PMPC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK1