It's the only type of PvP event in an endless sea of PvE events... just sit this one out.

drsalvation · July 2022

You don't need to do all events.
If PvP isn't for you, feel free to sit this one out, it's ok, you still have the rest of the year full of PvE events to catch you up.
This is the only thing going on for PvP, you don't need to go in and feed the gankers, and we don't need a PvE way to do events (even so, if I recall correctly, you can earn tickets from imperial city daily quests which are PvE, just some PvP in the mix, make a new alt and get to lvl 10 to do the quests in low lvl campaigns).

Otherwise, if you insist you NEED to do the event, then adapt to PvP, which unfortunately it IS the worst time to start PvP.

I did everything I needed to do in PvP a while back, almost lost my danged mind on how much I disliked every moment from it, but I got the costumes, the lion pet, the red dye, the centurion title, and thankfully now the golden laurel from this event.

But if you build for survivability and do the imperial city daily quests, you can manage it. There's armory, you can always switch builds (and if you consumed both slots with builds and haven't bought a third slot, I feel for you, always leave an empty slot for free respec). Deltia makes nice starting builds, this one can help you out

https://youtu.be/YrUCdDTjzjE

I'm just saying, a lot of PvP'ers have to do PvE events because, they really don't have a choice considering they only have 2 events in the whole year, we never see any threads about making PvE events into PvP... but every time a PvP event starts, the forum gets flooded with PvE'ers not wanting to be forced to do the ONLY PvP event.

Maybe one day there will be more PvP content to have simultaneous PvP and PvE events going at the same time, but for now, this is all they have.
Just let them have this and sit this one out.

drsalvation · July 2022

This is what I'm talking about

Amottica · July 2022

There are suggestions posted that eliminate and nearly eliminate the chance of experiencing PvP while getting the tickets. This sage advice flows every time this PvP event occurs. They are simple and straightforward.

drsalvation · July 2022

Yup.

Heck, even Scouting missions in Cyrodiil, they're lengthy, and very tedious if you don't have a maxed out horse, but they're the easiest to do as a single player, the best part is you can let yourself get killed after doing the report for an instant teleport back to base.

There's no real need to face any other players and nobody would be expecting you to show up in that moment to ambush you (unlike imperial city).

And even so, if MORE PvE'rs joined battlegrounds, the it would be PvE vs PvE vs PvE (and maybe some expert PvP'ers in the mix)

Bruccius · July 2022

I mean, I suck at PvP, but if you just get a group, get some Cyrodiil dailies and bring some siege equipment, I have a good time.

Just sit back with a ranged weapon if you're not that good at PvP, or be a healer.

Muizer · July 2022

The only time I ever took part in a festival was by accident.

AcadianPaladin · July 2022

I am PvE only but agree with OP. This is primarily a PvP event. I do go to Cyrodiil and get my tix but I do it with the full understanding that it is the home of PvP and incumbent upon me to adapt to survive there - not Cyrodiil's job to cater to me as a PvE player. As mentioned above, with some care, I am well-able to get my tix and avoid fighting other players almost all the time.

Lucozade85 · July 2022

PVE player here, never even stepped in to a BG, and I totally agree with OP. Don't like it? Then don't do it.

spartaxoxo · July 2022

Doesn't this event come twice a year? Regardless, there's also the Imperial City event.

So that's 3 times a year.

Xandreia_ · July 2022

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Doesn't this event come twice a year? Regardless, there's also the Imperial City event.

So that's 3 times a year.

wow 3 events out of like 30.....

spartaxoxo · July 2022

Xandreia_ wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Doesn't this event come twice a year? Regardless, there's also the Imperial City event.

So that's 3 times a year.

wow 3 events out of like 30.....

3 out of the 8 annually recurring events. But, even if it were the title is not accurate.

Xandreia_ · July 2022

think of all the little events they do, all targeted to pve, just let the pvpers have a little fun lol

the entitlement from the pve side really shines through during mym

Brrrofski · July 2022

What makes me laugh is the "gankers killing PVErs".

99% of the time it's just people playing PvP, and you happen to be at a place they are. Of course they're going to kill you. It doesn't mean they were waiting for you.

It's such a false narrative.

PvP players have plenty of easy targets. Hundreds at keeps. They're not waiting 10 mins in sneak to kill 1 pve player.

Sure, the odd person might do this. But it's tiny. And, I think it's actually other pve players, seeing a chance for an easy kill.

You're not going to catch any actual PvP player checking the house in Bruma...

spartaxoxo · July 2022

Xandreia_ wrote: »

think of all the little events they do, all targeted to pve, just let the pvpers have a little fun lol

the entitlement from the pve side really shines through during mym

Where did I say that PvPers shouldn't have an event? I did not. I actually told fellow PvErs some tips how to not die in this event in another thread, and didn't say anything about being opposed to this event. I am not. OFC PVP should also have events and they make it reasonably easy to limit your deaths during this event.

I'm simply pointing out that the title of this thread is false. Whether it's accurate or not has no bearing on my opinion about the events existence. It's a point of fact and it's wrong. 🤷🏿‍♀️

3 out of 8 of the annually recurring events are PvP. And there 2 different types (IC event and WSM/MYM) of PvP events. Under no understanding of the events is it the only type.

Xandreia_ · July 2022

i mean if you wanna call out technicalities, mym was originally 1 event but was split into 2 times a year so technically it should still be classed as 1 event, ic event is pretty dead when it comes around so that shouldnt really be counted, so... yeah the title is right

Browiseth · July 2022

very reasonable post, can't really argue with the points made, overall a good post but grrrr pvpers are toxic because they want to play pvp and i want to participate in the pvp event without pvping!!!

Veinblood1965 · July 2022

There was a time when I never pvped and didn't expect to but during one event I started liking it and have been doing it almost exclusively ever since. Best advise is to just queue for Cyrodill and Imperial City on NO-CP queues. Hardly anyone there even during events and when there are no events I've rarely even seen anyone. Best way to get skyshards also imo.

Tommy_The_Gun · July 2022

There are ways to minimize the risk & kinda avoid PvP almost entirely (which is something I like, because it gives players a choice, similar to how during Undaunted celebration we can solo nFG1):

- Imperial City - Arena district daily quest - No need to jump down (but as always be careful). Mobs & NPCs respawn near, just below the tower you are on. So, if you have a bow or other ranged weapon, you can pretty much "PvE" this quest with minimal risk. Just shoot down.

- Cyrodiil - Scouting Quests - Pick a stealth character + sneak speed bonus. Alternatively, you can go for a Campaign where your faction is pushed to the gates and you have decent chances of receiving a quest to scout something near. Then login to campaign where your faction controls most of the map and just go to the objective you need to scout.

Many of those quests can be done before the event even starts, and just leave them in your journal, at the final stage. When event starts, just login, complete the quest (talk to npc for reward) & you are done. If you have many characters & Whitestrake’s Mayhem does not last for many days - then often you don't even have to do those quests during the event.

Disclaimer - I am a PvP-er, and I do PvP. But even then I like to obtain even tickets 1st, and then I just play normally to have fun in Cyrodill.

jaws343 · July 2022

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Doesn't this event come twice a year? Regardless, there's also the Imperial City event.

So that's 3 times a year.

Imperial City event can be done entirely in dungeons.

spartaxoxo · July 2022

Xandreia_ wrote: »

i mean if you wanna call out technicalities, mym was originally 1 event but was split into 2 times a year so technically it should still be classed as 1 event, ic event is pretty dead when it comes around so that shouldnt really be counted, so... yeah the title is right

Which is why I said 3 events and 2 types of PvP events.

edit: Anyway, the overall point of the thread still stands. The title should just be changed to "most events are pve" rather than "It's the only type of pvp," instead.

AzuraFan · July 2022

Lucozade85 wrote: »

PVE player here, never even stepped in to a BG, and I totally agree with OP. Don't like it? Then don't do it.

Agreed. Last year I did battlegrounds, but this year I'm sitting it out. I don't want the costume, just the house (assuming there will be a house), and other stuff like outfit pages never interest me anyway. So I don't feel any great need to collect tickets during this event.

ETA: Actually, I went into Cyrodiil tonight to do a master writ, so it made sense to do a daily. In the non-CP campaign I chose, there were lots of players, all questing. Took me all of three minutes to do a quest. I think I'll continue doing that.

Kiralyn2000 · July 2022

drsalvation wrote: »

You don't need to do all events.

Yep. I've been skipping this event since the whole ticket thing started. It's fine. /shrug

rpa · July 2022

Just do scouting missions off the prime time if you need the tokens. You do not need to do it at same campaign you pick it up and not turn it in where you do it. If you find a campaign where your faction onwn the map its trivial, if any other faction owns the map inside of the owned area is empty anyway if you stay out off road and away of fighting spots. Ride nearby of your target, sneak to range, press e to write a raport and que to IC to exit.

Alchemical · July 2022

I am not a PVP main or even a PVP casual and I've been jumping into BGs in my PvE gear for tickets. Sometimes I get rolled, sometimes I roll others, it's the nature of the beast. They are fast and low stakes, and there is a daily to merely PARTICIPATE in 5, not even win that is more than accessible to players of any skill level or no desire to 'learn pvp'. You can still stand on a flag if you don't know about penetration caps.

I understand competition is not for all people, and probably even less so for people who are extra casual like questers. But it's as you say, PVP players ALSO are a part of the community and telling them they don't deserve content tailored to them is at the very least rude when you're a PVEer and get the lion's share of all content, period. I also don't see anywhere as much complaining from PVPers about having to the dungeons during undaunted fest. Some, sure, but never as much as the anti-pvp sentiment. Probably because PVPers /have/ to do dungeons anyway for gear but PVEers get the option to buy PVP drops when they want them.

I don't like stooping to tribalism, but it rubs me the wrong way the way PVP players get sidelined 90% of the time.

Auldwulfe · July 2022

Last night, I took a character under level 50 in --- the under 50 no CP server was pretty much empty
Did scouting missions - 13, to be exact
Did 2 of the quests, and even teamed with a guy from another faction on one --- you DON'T have to kill each other.
Got my tickets, got 15 reward boxes, and had I remembered my scroll for the first half, probably would have gotten a level in the assault and support lines ..... although I am almost there.
As soon as I finish one, I dump my Tel'var stones and alliance points in the bank, and then do another ... fast, and I got a ridiculous amount of stuff ---- seriously, 1 more bone, and I will have the option for one of the ugly dog pets.

And, I managed to get more transmute stones in those boxes, and things, than a daily dungeon. The rewards for the worthy have them, and I got several.

I plan on doing it, again, tonight --- I get about 3 and half hours of play each night, after work..... and that's what I finished in that time.

Auldwulfe

ChunkyCat · July 2022

Think of the poor Khajiits!

wolfie1.0. · July 2022

I would like to point out that there are PVE ways of getting tickets.

Town quests, scouting missions, and ic dailies are all technically PVE tasks. The problem is that with some of these the quest locations are all the same meaning that you have specific players that activity camp or block access to these targets.

It is what it is for these. Personally given the risks involved I think the rewards should be better. But whatever.

But to be honest just have some one share the bg quest for five matches and just spend your time dying to the peeps. Go low energy and low effort. Read a book or watch a show while you blindly afk your way around a battleground. I spent a whole round the other day finding various ways to streak my sorc off a cliff while trying to hit players with my highly ineffective snipe skill. Rather relaxing.

xDeusEJRx · July 2022

It's always interesting how many threads there are to complain about Whitestrake's mayhem when there's only 2 PVP focused events and the rest are PVE and they are adding more new PVE events but no pvp events

I mean Zeal of zenithar was new, Daedric war celebration and there's gonna be a Heros of high isle event.

Most of the games events are PVE and they continually add more, meanwhile PVP never gets anything remotely new, let alone a new event and the few times we do get an event it's always a problem.

spartaxoxo · July 2022

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Town quests, scouting missions, and ic dailies are all technically PVE tasks. The problem is that with some of these the quest locations are all the same meaning that you have specific players that activity camp or block access to these targets.

It is what it is for these. Personally given the risks involved I think the rewards should be better. But whatever.

They are PvPvE tasks, and honestly the scouting and arena tasks are so low risk. People should just do those. I used to be more sympathetic to the argument of this or having PvE tasks. But honestly they've improved stealth so much over the years and they still allow people to do that nonsense for the arena daily in IC.

biovitalb16_ESO · July 2022

Xandreia_ wrote: »

think of all the little events they do, all targeted to pve, just let the pvpers have a little fun lol

the entitlement from the pve side really shines through during mym

Of course it does, cause we are the crowd they cater to, we bring the money in. Pvpers

xDeusEJRx wrote: »

It's always interesting how many threads there are to complain about Whitestrake's mayhem when there's only 2 PVP focused events and the rest are PVE and they are adding more new PVE events but no pvp events

I mean Zeal of zenithar was new, Daedric war celebration and there's gonna be a Heros of high isle event.

Most of the games events are PVE and they continually add more, meanwhile PVP never gets anything remotely new, let alone a new event and the few times we do get an event it's always a problem.

Why would they add new PvP events? This is a PvE game, plain and simple,. it's pretty obvious that PvP was an after thought in this game.

xDeusEJRx · July 2022

biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

Xandreia_ wrote: »

think of all the little events they do, all targeted to pve, just let the pvpers have a little fun lol

the entitlement from the pve side really shines through during mym

Of course it does, cause we are the crowd they cater to, we bring the money in. Pvpers

xDeusEJRx wrote: »

It's always interesting how many threads there are to complain about Whitestrake's mayhem when there's only 2 PVP focused events and the rest are PVE and they are adding more new PVE events but no pvp events

I mean Zeal of zenithar was new, Daedric war celebration and there's gonna be a Heros of high isle event.

Most of the games events are PVE and they continually add more, meanwhile PVP never gets anything remotely new, let alone a new event and the few times we do get an event it's always a problem.

Why would they add new PvP events? This is a PvE game, plain and simple,. it's pretty obvious that PvP was an after thought in this game.

It's not a PVE game, it's an MMO with PVP and PVE. As much as you would love to believe that, PVE isn't the only thing in this game. There are people who don't participate in PVE all day, I mean the fact that there are people that sit in towns all day or do housing all day is indicative of that. So, no it isn't just a PVE game.