Sliders for this face type (Breton female)?

Tesman85 · July 2022

I created a new Breton character and tried to make her face structure look somewhat like Nicolene or this vendor from Belkarth:

For some reason I just can't find the right spot from the face triangle, but get always more robust or Lady Laurent- type faces at different extremes. The answer must be somewhere between heroic and angular with maybe a dash of soft, but where exactly? So, does anyone have sliders for a character of theirs that looks close to this? I'd hit randomize long enough that I got something close enough, but I've wasted enough appearance tokens already since the character creation screen is rather bad at showing how the character actually looks like in-game.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · July 2022

Do you have better screenshots? Can take a look later, but going by a picture I made ages ago comparing imperials and bretons she looks to definitely be somewhere in angular.

neutral-soft-heroic-angular.

Tesman85 · July 2022

Sorry, I didn't take more screens from that vendor and atm haven't the time. But yes, it must be in the angular area. However, when I put the dot in the angular corner, with only a tenth of the way towards soft, the result is still this:

As can be seen, the lower face isn't quite so light in the structure as with the NPC, although the jaw and chin widths are at or near the minimum. It might be just an illusion though, since my character's cheekbonesare different than with the NPC. But I'm wary of wasting still one appearance change token. It might be time to call the character pretty enough (because she isn't that bad looking, just not what I aimed for) and try again next time.

It galls me that ESO's character creation tool is actually quite great otherwise, but doesn't show the characters as they will look in-game. Such a waste of a good feature.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · July 2022

Why are you wasting appearance tokens for tests? Make a new character for that and then use those settings with an token. Or if the character is new delete and remake.

francesinhalover · July 2022

Test on alts first, don't be like me... i wish i had one appearance change token.. wasted all my gold.

Holycannoli · July 2022

Such a good opportunity to introduce a gold sink here which the game desperately needs. Forget tokens, let us do it with gold.

Athymhormia · July 2022

That's just lighting. That merchant also looks different in and out of dialog.

It's best to test appearance on a new character, as others mentioned, or at PTS.
As for face triangle - when unsure, pay attention to the textures, they do change at certain positions. I couldn't test results myself, cause I'm at max chars, and currently don't have PTS installed, but maybe someone will find these attempts at both helpful:

francesinhalover · July 2022

Holycannoli wrote: »

Such a good opportunity to introduce a gold sink here which the game desperately needs. Forget tokens, let us do it with gold.

if people need a gold sink, i accept their gold for free, idk how others are rich, i always was poor lmao

Lady_Sleepless · July 2022

Tesman85 wrote: »

I created a new Breton character and tried to make her face structure look somewhat like Nicolene or this vendor from Belkarth:

For some reason I just can't find the right spot from the face triangle, but get always more robust or Lady Laurent- type faces at different extremes. The answer must be somewhere between heroic and angular with maybe a dash of soft, but where exactly? So, does anyone have sliders for a character of theirs that looks close to this? I'd hit randomize long enough that I got something close enough, but I've wasted enough appearance tokens already since the character creation screen is rather bad at showing how the character actually looks like in-game.

Not identical, but probably a good place to start:

link to sliders are here: https://imgur.com/a/aSkzZo3

Tesman85 · July 2022

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Why are you wasting appearance tokens for tests? Make a new character for that and then use those settings with an token. Or if the character is new delete and remake.

My character list on PC EU is full and I'm not on PTS, so no testing with new characters. Also, I did the dumb mistake sinking all that gold into bag upgrades etc and the crowns for an additional outfit slot before being certain that I was fully happy with the character's appearance. But now that you mentioned testing with a new character, I don't have any characters at PC NA yet. Now I feel doubly stupid

Well, next time I'll use the other server for testing.

Athymhormia wrote: »

That's just lighting. That merchant also looks different in and out of dialog.

It's best to test appearance on a new character, as others mentioned, or at PTS.
As for face triangle - when unsure, pay attention to the textures, they do change at certain positions. I couldn't test results myself, cause I'm at max chars, and currently don't have PTS installed, but maybe someone will find these attempts at both helpful:

Thanks! Both characters look very good, and especially the blonde one is very close to what I'm looking for. So, maybe one token more still.

Elvenheart · July 2022

Lady_Sleepless wrote: »

Tesman85 wrote: »

I created a new Breton character and tried to make her face structure look somewhat like Nicolene or this vendor from Belkarth:

For some reason I just can't find the right spot from the face triangle, but get always more robust or Lady Laurent- type faces at different extremes. The answer must be somewhere between heroic and angular with maybe a dash of soft, but where exactly? So, does anyone have sliders for a character of theirs that looks close to this? I'd hit randomize long enough that I got something close enough, but I've wasted enough appearance tokens already since the character creation screen is rather bad at showing how the character actually looks like in-game.

Not identical, but probably a good place to start:

link to sliders are here: https://imgur.com/a/aSkzZo3

Great job…I think she’s even prettier than the Belkarth vendor - but don’t tell the vendor I said that! 😂

kind_hero · July 2022

Tesman85 wrote: »

I created a new Breton character and tried to make her face structure look somewhat like Nicolene or this vendor from Belkarth:

For some reason I just can't find the right spot from the face triangle, but get always more robust or Lady Laurent- type faces at different extremes. The answer must be somewhere between heroic and angular with maybe a dash of soft, but where exactly? So, does anyone have sliders for a character of theirs that looks close to this? I'd hit randomize long enough that I got something close enough, but I've wasted enough appearance tokens already since the character creation screen is rather bad at showing how the character actually looks like in-game.

If you have access to the PTS, you can have unlimited tokens.

freespirit · July 2022

I don't have access to screenshots atm but two of my Breton characters look very similar to your example and iirc I was heavily into the "soft" area when making them. 🤔

freespirit · July 2022

This is my oldest Breton she was made back in 2014

I know I tend to avoid heroic and angular when making my Bretons, have you tried that?

I have two more which ended up remarkably similar considering I wasn't aiming for that!

phaneub17_ESO · July 2022

You can also use the other server (NA/EU) to test create your characters, play in windowed mode, keep notepad open on the other monitor to save the increments. For the face I try not to look at it, start in the center and move in a slow circular motion outwards until it lands on a face I like.