Deathmatch in Battlegrounds

jpl7340 · June 2022

Look, idk what the answer is, but this isn’t it. When I que up for a BG, I want deathmatch. All the other formats are just boring to me. Right now, deathmatch is RIDICULOUSLY rare. I hate it. I’d rather see something along these lines for BG ques:

Solo deathmatch
Solo everything else
Group anything

No clue if this is the answer, but I need more DM in my life.

prettypony · June 2022

I agree. I think it would be nice to be able to choose what we que for. I rarely get DM anymore, and it is by far my favorite!

ZOS_Hadeostry · June 2022

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding.

SkaraMinoc · June 2022

jpl7340 wrote: »

Look, idk what the answer is, but this isn’t it. When I que up for a BG, I want deathmatch. All the other formats are just boring to me. Right now, deathmatch is RIDICULOUSLY rare. I hate it. I’d rather see something along these lines for BG ques:

Solo deathmatch
Solo everything else
Group anything

No clue if this is the answer, but I need more DM in my life.

This makes more sense:

Random Objective (20% Deathmatch, 40% Flag Games, 40% Land Grab)
Deathmatch Only (100% Deathmatch)

The problem is there needs to be a way to protect the Random Objective queue from Deathmatch premades.

Magio_ · June 2022

Oh hey! A BG queue thread with a Mod post! Let's check it out.

Oh...

divnyi · June 2022

*yawn* another queues thread, another time proposing incomplete solution that won't fit everyone.

ZOS, you see the pattern? Every time BG is mentioned, people mention queues. Do the queues, once and for good.
Make checkboxes, same as in "specific dungeon" selection, options:

* solo
* group

* deathmatch
* domination
* crazy king
* chaosball
* relic

* CP
* noCP

* proc
* noProc

It covers it all and you won't have those threads anymore.

_adhyffbjjjf12 · June 2022

divnyi wrote: »

*yawn* another queues thread, another time proposing incomplete solution that won't fit everyone.

ZOS, you see the pattern? Every time BG is mentioned, people mention queues. Do the queues, once and for good.
Make checkboxes, same as in "specific dungeon" selection, options:

* solo
* group

* deathmatch
* domination
* crazy king
* chaosball
* relic

* CP
* noCP

* proc
* noProc

It covers it all and you won't have those threads anymore.

THE .. GAME..DOES..NOT..HAVE..THE..POPULATION. ..TO..SUPPORT..MULTIPLE..QUEUES.

and wont do until the underlying issues are resolved.

divnyi · June 2022

_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »

divnyi wrote: »

*yawn* another queues thread, another time proposing incomplete solution that won't fit everyone.

ZOS, you see the pattern? Every time BG is mentioned, people mention queues. Do the queues, once and for good.
Make checkboxes, same as in "specific dungeon" selection, options:

* solo
* group

* deathmatch
* domination
* crazy king
* chaosball
* relic

* CP
* noCP

* proc
* noProc

It covers it all and you won't have those threads anymore.

THE .. GAME..DOES..NOT..HAVE..THE..POPULATION. ..TO..SUPPORT..MULTIPLE..QUEUES.

THIS. IS. NOT. MULTIPLE. QUEUES.

You queue for all the modes = you are queueing in all queues.
You don't queue for some mode = you make it harder for you, not for everyone else

chessalavakia_ESO · June 2022

divnyi wrote: »

_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »

divnyi wrote: »

*yawn* another queues thread, another time proposing incomplete solution that won't fit everyone.

ZOS, you see the pattern? Every time BG is mentioned, people mention queues. Do the queues, once and for good.
Make checkboxes, same as in "specific dungeon" selection, options:

* solo
* group

* deathmatch
* domination
* crazy king
* chaosball
* relic

* CP
* noCP

* proc
* noProc

It covers it all and you won't have those threads anymore.

THE .. GAME..DOES..NOT..HAVE..THE..POPULATION. ..TO..SUPPORT..MULTIPLE..QUEUES.

THIS. IS. NOT. MULTIPLE. QUEUES.

You queue for all the modes = you are queueing in all queues.
You don't queue for some mode = you make it harder for you, not for everyone else

If you don't queue for a specific mode, you make it harder for everyone in queue for that mode to get a match as well as yourself.

For a contrived extreme example, if you have 27 people in queue with 7 in for everything, 4 in queue for deathmatch, 4 in queue for domination, 4 in queue for crazy king, 4 in queue for chaosball, and 4 in queue for capture the relic nobody gets a match despite a match requiring 12 people and having 27 waiting in queue.

divnyi · June 2022

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

For a contrived extreme example, if you have 27 people in queue with 7 in for everything, 4 in queue for deathmatch, 4 in queue for domination, 4 in queue for crazy king, 4 in queue for chaosball, and 4 in queue for capture the relic nobody gets a match despite a match requiring 12 people and having 27 waiting in queue.

And for realistic example: 5 ppl queue for deathmatch, 2 ppl queue for any objective, another 20 come in and queue for anything, filling queues two times so both get the mode they want.

W_Murderface · June 2022

I Want to choose deathmatch too, other mods are so boring.

jpl7340 · June 2022

Personally, I’d like to see the teams shrink to 3-person BG’s (or 2-person if it’s really low population/too many ppl want too many different formats). It’s a bit silly to hold up a game strictly to have exactly 4 people/team.

Magio_ · June 2022

jpl7340 wrote: »

Personally, I’d like to see the teams shrink to 3-person BG’s (or 2-person if it’s really low population/too many ppl want too many different formats). It’s a bit silly to hold up a game strictly to have exactly 4 people/team.

I'd rather shrink the amount of participating teams. You could lower BGs to two teams and even be able to increase the amount of players per team and still have the less players required to start a match.

darvaria · July 2022

Need to get rid of 2 of the types: Chaos Ball and Krazy King. Have only Death Match, Domination & Capture the Relic. And get rid of at least one map, maybe 2.

LET PLAYERS HAVE DEATH MATCH only que. You used to do that.

DarthCuddlefluff · July 2022

Honestly I only ever get Death Match so idk what people are talking about here. I hate Death Match and want only the other stuff which I find way more fun.

_adhyffbjjjf12 · July 2022

Magio_ wrote: »

jpl7340 wrote: »

Personally, I’d like to see the teams shrink to 3-person BG’s (or 2-person if it’s really low population/too many ppl want too many different formats). It’s a bit silly to hold up a game strictly to have exactly 4 people/team.

I'd rather shrink the amount of participating teams. You could lower BGs to two teams and even be able to increase the amount of players per team and still have the less players required to start a match.

The problem with this is that you are irinivcally further reducing the player base by putting off players that like BG

darvaria wrote: »

Need to get rid of 2 of the types: Chaos Ball and Krazy King. Have only Death Match, Domination & Capture the Relic. And get rid of at least one map, maybe 2.

LET PLAYERS HAVE DEATH MATCH only que. You used to do that.

THE GAME DOES NOT HAVE THE POPULATION, they have already tried it.

thesarahandcompany · July 2022

I don't see why we have to have solo vs. group queues. Groups are nonexistant. Group queues takes 15 minutes on a good day, but 30+ minutes on average. People just don't use group queue.

Literally we could solve this by making one group+solo deathmatch queue and one group+solo all other modes queue.

The core problem here is that deathmatch-wanters will always deathmatch, and objective-wanters rarely have set-ups that work in deathmatch. These two modes don't need to be in the same queue.

Hell, delete deathmatch from the objective queue and just make a new 4v4 or 6v6 queue in place of the group queue.