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Idea: Make companion possible to be in solo arenas,

JustAGoodPlayer
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But not as a fighter but as spectator.

Solo arena checks your own might - but why not to let you companion to support you from the stands ? And may be even get some EXP and gear for him for this too ?
It will not make arenas any easier or more unbalanced - but can make some profit to your companions as well - and may be even let you to exp them this way too :)

What do you think ? =)
  • DinoZavr
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    i think your idea is not great, sorry for that.
    Both Maelstrom and Vateshran are doable without Companions.
    To implement Companions, mobs and bosses are to be balanced for extra DPS/HPS to leave challenges on the same level than before.
    The catch is - not every player has access to Blackwood or/and High Isle chapters, so "hardened" solo arenas would move behind a paywall for them.
    I don't think this is OKay.
    To level up Companions you can solo normal Dragonstar with your companion. It is soloable without Companions at the current players' power level. It is even boring due to long pauses. Or try Blackrose, as it is much more challenging than nDSA.
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  • ceiron
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    I love the first reply did not read the op suggestions at all. Just assumed from the title. Sums up the problems in game in general really.

    Personally think could be a cool idea. Especially if they taunt you and stuff.
  • Snamyap
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    DinoZavr wrote: »
    i think your idea is not great, sorry for that.
    Both Maelstrom and Vateshran are doable without Companions.
    To implement Companions, mobs and bosses are to be balanced for extra DPS/HPS to leave challenges on the same level than before.
    The catch is - not every player has access to Blackwood or/and High Isle chapters, so "hardened" solo arenas would move behind a paywall for them.
    I don't think this is OKay.
    To level up Companions you can solo normal Dragonstar with your companion. It is soloable without Companions at the current players' power level. It is even boring due to long pauses. Or try Blackrose, as it is much more challenging than nDSA.

    You may want to actually read the OP.
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    ceiron wrote: »
    I love the first reply did not read the op suggestions at all. Just assumed from the title.

    Especially since it's all in the first line of the OP. Nice and separated, not buried in a paragraph or anything. Actually kind of impressive. :D



    (My reaction to the actual idea: but why? And especially not the "and let them get free loot!" part.)
  • DinoZavr
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    Snamyap wrote: »
    You may want to actually read the OP.

    I have read OP, still i don't get how Companions can be summoned but stay completely out of action.
    They are leveled only by kill XP.
    There are many other ways to level Companions, not only group arenas, but dungeons like Skyreach catacombs you can run with Companion to level them up. You can put on gear with training trait and consume XP scroll/ambrosia to speed up the process.
    Once your Companion hits level 20 you no longer need to level them up and the issue becomes irrelevant.

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  • Fester82
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    I say no. Its a solo arena for a reason. If you put them in solo arenas you make the hard work people did to get the arena done by themselves pointless.
  • Artim_X
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    I initially disagreed with the idea based solely on the title of the post (I erased my original comment before posting hehe), but then I went back to read what you wrote.

    I actually love this idea! Unique spectator dialogue for the companions would be cool. It'd also be cool for them to earn experience watching the master at work so to speak 😄 I would definitely prefer grinding companion gear in solo arenas.

    FYI I would probably change up the title of your post so peeps understand that the companions are just there for moral support as a spectator.
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  • Four_Fingers
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    But is it worth the dev time and cpu cycles?
    Cool but distracting.
  • FluffyReachWitch
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    That would be a neat touch honestly.

    It would break up the monotony of hearing the same daedra shouting over and over again if Bastian could occasionally yell, "Come on, get out of there!"
  • Wolfkeks
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    I can totally imagine Bastian looking down at me and shaking his head when he sees me standing in stupid again in vMA 😛
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  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    DinoZavr wrote: »
    i think your idea is not great, sorry for that.
    Both Maelstrom and Vateshran are doable without Companions.
    To implement Companions, mobs and bosses are to be balanced for extra DPS/HPS to leave challenges on the same level than before.
    The catch is - not every player has access to Blackwood or/and High Isle chapters, so "hardened" solo arenas would move behind a paywall for them.
    I don't think this is OKay.
    To level up Companions you can solo normal Dragonstar with your companion. It is soloable without Companions at the current players' power level. It is even boring due to long pauses. Or try Blackrose, as it is much more challenging than nDSA.

    They are spectators - they do not do actions. they just seat or stand on tribunes. And some times may say some their standart talks )))

    It is needed to them get EXP and you get gear for them =)) (One more way to level them UP) Not only going - skyreach or normal brp 1st arena )))

    And may be it will be more fun - when they will say some thing like - "Stay with me" =)) Or "breake free as fast as you can" when you even got no stun =)
    Edited by JustAGoodPlayer on July 16, 2022 2:54PM
  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    Artim_X wrote: »
    I initially disagreed with the idea based solely on the title of the post (I erased my original comment before posting hehe), but then I went back to read what you wrote.

    I actually love this idea! Unique spectator dialogue for the companions would be cool. It'd also be cool for them to earn experience watching the master at work so to speak 😄 I would definitely prefer grinding companion gear in solo arenas.

    FYI I would probably change up the title of your post so peeps understand that the companions are just there for moral support as a spectator.

    The title make this a little cheat way ;))) To make people mistake by purpose - there was a lot of topics about it before ))) And this is just a little different ))) Thats a little funny thing about it =)))
  • Vaoh
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    Would be really cool having them as a spectator, especially as we get more companions. A nice touch.
  • Kisakee
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    Fester82 wrote: »
    I say no. Its a solo arena for a reason. If you put them in solo arenas you make the hard work people did to get the arena done by themselves pointless.

    You're the second one in the thread not reading OP, try again.
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  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    But now we see people who do not really read the topics ;):))))))
  • Arunei
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    This topic makes it clear that there are indeed a number of people who make posts based only on the title and don't read the actual post.

    Being able to get done exp for them if they spectate would be neat. Could easily say they're learning from watching you rather than helping you fight.
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  • Kisakee
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    Arunei wrote: »
    This topic makes it clear that there are indeed a number of people who make posts based only on the title and don't read the actual post.

    Being able to get done exp for them if they spectate would be neat. Could easily say they're learning from watching you rather than helping you fight.

    I have more of a feeling about it like being in Dragon Star Arena and them screaming and yelling at me about how pitiful i am.
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  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    Or they can scream : "You can do it !" :)))
  • JonnAndCo
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    They could even give us a dungeon/arena companion that buffs some accessibility specific aspect (such as light or hard attacks and/or spammables) if they wish to continue opening up the game to a wider audience.
  • SilverBride
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    I would love bring my companions along to solo arenas, not because I need the help but as a good place to level them.
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  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    Yes ))) nBRP and Skyreach already become a little boring )))
  • IsharaMeradin
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    Maybe not change the existing arenas as they are already complete. However, a new arena where all of your owned companions could watch and cheer / sneer you on would be a nice addition to the game. I wouldn't want them to gain experience and gear just for watching though.
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  • Anhedonie
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    Tbh companions are so bad, even adding them to solo arenas even with all combata capabilities will have 0 effect.
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  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Tbh companions are so bad, even adding them to solo arenas even with all combata capabilities will have 0 effect.

    And now read the topics first message ;) )))))

    They are not bad. It is a toy that you first need to level )
    Edited by JustAGoodPlayer on July 20, 2022 12:08PM
  • Agenericname
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    I run an add on that inserts a new line into the death recaps like "this many add ons and you still died?" Some are funny. If they could have Miri say things like "have you considered blocking?" Or "Maybe next time dont stand in poison" it could be fun.
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