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Haven't bought anything in Guild Stores for a while. 2 months later 2.5x the prices?

Redguards_Revenge
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Wow. I usually buy the stuff pre made but I am going to have to now tap into the reserves and actually use my 9 trait to make the materials. Rofl I will NEVER go and pick up the raw mats especially knowing the RNG is the same. It's just not worth my time. I always buy just before a major update. I try to hold the materials instead of using them. I also still use the usual hundings rage with new moon acolyte. If it doesn't work, or fit into the games new update, I just sit and wait away from the game. The worst thing for any economy. People not spending lol. It's only going to get worse after this folks.

The key to ruining an MMOs economy is buying as much as possible just before a major patch and then reselling it for higher. If you can get everybody to reflect your absurd price, it runs the economy into the ground even faster. People call this opportunity, entrepreneurship, etc. Then all that will be left are the whales and the well established in ESO. Everybody else is throw aside and then there is a price war between what's left in the game because there is nobody doing the grunt work to put the stuff back into the economy. In an MMO people simply leave the game.
In real life people revolt. Although there are some times when these upper people are able to hire enforcing personnel to make the revolting people accept the low pay and do the job.

All current known economic functions simply don't work real world or fantasy world. No matter what anybody says about them, they all lead to oligarchy and dictatorships if not they collapse and restart to keep balance. Governments try to patch these economies over and over again and they will lead to the same ruin because they were never thought out to last more than a single lifetime if that. There are many possible solutions, but you'd have to throw away certain actions one has grown accustomed to as a human. You wouldn't dare try implementing it in real life, (without experiments) but in a fantasy world? Why not? Unfortunately, this has to be done in the inception of the game so the players know this is how the world works. Changing the economy mid game would destroy it. As humans, it's best to wait for the destruction to occur, let everybody experience it, and then have them opened to change. Very rarely will the human (or how life evolved on this planet.) preemptively fix a problem before it starts.

Why does greed exist? There are many reasons as to why. Then ask yourself why do they want/need/look for those things. Keep going down the hole and you'll see, the human...is dumb. You'll realize the human is an illogical creature that will never be perfect. That as long as there is life, perfection will never exist. Making rules for a perfect world is idiotic. When you actually sit down and understand why you feel your emotions instead of letting them take you for a ride you realize a whole lot about other humans and yourself. You'll look back at all the positive and the negative interactions and realize why the person acts the way they do. If you still don't walk up to them and ask. Hopefully it will be insightful and informative. Although some will become dismissive when you try to probe their emotions. Then you'll never get mad again because you'll understand the limitations of the human. When you get to this point in your life when you don't get angry at someone who holds an opinion, view, etc. Direct opposite of your own and you actually ask them to explain in detail why they fell that way and ask them to help you walk through their feelings or logic. That's when you are ready to make decisions. Even if they dislike your decision on something you can tell them in their language why you feel a certain way.

I had a job where someone would complain about how upper management treated them and how they disliked it. They got promoted and then did the same thing to the people they managed. What causes this? This continuation of horrible practices? is it because they saw someone do it and perceived that the team was successful because of that? Was it because they wanted to take out revenge on those beneath them because that's what the upper management did to them? I don't know but they wouldn't give me a straight answer when I confronted them about it. (I quit that job by the way. I dislike that mentality of putting burdens on others that someone else put on you. Anger is such an emotion that does such behavior. That's why I don't engage when people want to find others to invoke rage with.) Just because everybody else is doing it and there is some perceived success does not mean that is the de facto solution to the problem. At the same time if numbers going up makes you happy, I can't be the person to stand in your way.
  • MaraxusTheOrc
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    Yikes.
  • LikiLoki
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    Lots of text. I will answer briefly. Most of the raw material sellers are players who don't have a craft bag. Now there was an free ESO+ trial period. Players have stopped selling surpluses. There was a shortage. Prices have risen
  • bmnoble
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    If people were not putting in the grunt work to list all these various mats and items the flippers would have nothing to relist for a higher price.

    If you want to buy something without putting in the time to farm it you pay the prices the person with the items you want is offering whether that is the original person that farmed it or someone who is relisting the items for a profit.

    You have to weigh up what is more important to you your fictional currency or your time.

    If you don't have enough fictional currency to buy the items you want then your stuck with having to farm the items yourself or make enough fictional currency to buy the items, either way you can still get them all that changes is the amount of time it takes.


    As for the rest of your economic essay, with or without money greed will still exist, people want things and they are prepared to get them either with money, by bartering and trading items or resorting to more extreme methods.

    Human history is full of wars over land and resources, people tend to prioritize their own happiness and the happiness of those they care about over that of strangers and people they don't like, money offers a more peaceful way of getting the things we want, its not perfect but its better than people resorting to violence.
  • redlink1979
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    bmnoble wrote: »
    (...) You have to weigh up what is more important to you your fictional currency or your time.(...)
    This ^.
    "Waste/Invest" time farming or pay the price asked by others.
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    LikiLoki wrote: »
    Lots of text. I will answer briefly. Most of the raw material sellers are players who don't have a craft bag. Now there was an free ESO+ trial period. Players have stopped selling surpluses. There was a shortage. Prices have risen

    This. Exactly this.

    Every time there's a free eso+, players who don't sub rush to fill their craft bags with the results the OP verbosely describes.

    It will normalise in a few weeks.
  • dmnqwk
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    I think it's interesting this is happening.

    I buy Tempering Alloy enough as I enjoy randomly trying things - I cannot say over the last 4-6 months I've noticed a change in price for them.
    PCEU they're still 8 to 9k for the lower priced ones, which means I guess I'd need to ask just what has almost tripled in price specifically? General conversations are good but specific ones are waaaay better!
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