Any QoL improvement for Mundus Stones?

Theros · March 2022

Does any one know if ZoS will make any QoL improvement for Mundus Stones?
Cuz it's kind of boring change Mundus every time we change role.

-We need one DD
I go. Just need change Mundus!
-Ops Healer logout. Can instead you go in Heaer?
Sure. Just need change Mundus!
-Sorry mate, Healer have arive. Can you change for DD again?
..... Sure, i just need change Mundus....

Mythgard1967 · March 2022

I didn't feel like just hitting agree at the bottom of the post communicating enough how much I agree...so here I am with a totally useless post saying I agree...and pretty please??? with Moon Sugar on top???

The_kruguers · March 2022

I still can’t believe it doesn’t save the mundus so I kinda agree lol

Arunei · March 2022

I really don't understand why of all the things the Armory saves, the Mundus Stone is what it DOESN'T. The thing can even remove and apply Vamp/WW no problem, which changes your character more fundamentally than your Mundus does.

Special_XYZ · March 2022

I don't know why they won't just come out and say that it's because of the ability to purchase mundus stones for your home, and adding this feature would essentially amount to players having wasted crowns. It's not like it's some scandal.

They have a set in the game that allows you to have two mundus stones equipped, so stating that there are technical limitations around adding mundus boons to the armory just proves they think the player base is stupid.

Ragnarok0130 · March 2022

Each armory slot can keep track of which curse you have or don't have, different champion points, skill morphs, gear loadouts but can't keep track of which specific mundus stone you have on each build is mind blowing. It's almost like they want to encourage us to buy mundus stones for our houses.

Theros · March 2022

Ragnarok0130 wrote: »

Each armory slot can keep track of which curse you have or don't have, different champion points, skill morphs, gear loadouts but can't keep track of which specific mundus stone you have on each build is mind blowing. It's almost like they want to encourage us to buy mundus stones for our houses.

I can understand that. But, the problem is the same...
It's kind boring, go anywhere, just to change MUNDUS! and you dont have to go to your house. Mundus are FREE around all the game. It's faster if you have them in house ofc. But don't make any sence when people say 2it's because of money". In this case i disagree.

And since get MUNDUS bonus are free.... I just ask if ZoS have any plans to make a BIG QoL improvement in this.

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OMG! I just find out where's the edit button

Arunei · March 2022

Special_XYZ wrote: »

I don't know why they won't just come out and say that it's because of the ability to purchase mundus stones for your home, and adding this feature would essentially amount to players having wasted crowns. It's not like it's some scandal.

They have a set in the game that allows you to have two mundus stones equipped, so stating that there are technical limitations around adding mundus boons to the armory just proves they think the player base is stupid.

It wouldn't be wasted Crowns because the Mundus Stones would still be readily available at your House if you need to change it from whatever is in your loadouts. For people who've only bought one or two extra slots, or are only using the two free ones, there's still a lot of limitation on potential Mundus Stones.

Besides, ZOS doesn't care about wasted Crowns. If they did they wouldn't keep releasing reskinned versions of the Banker and Merchant.

joseayalac · March 2022

When the Armory System launched, they said that they would continue taking a look at it so see what else could be implemented. This was a response to a player asking if they had plans for adding the Mundus stones. They didn't confirm that they wanted to add the Mundus Stones though.

It would halt their Mundus Stones Crownstore sales, but I believe that not implementing it is halting their Armory Assistant sales. Probably the Armory Assistant is capable of making them more revenue than the Munduses anyway. But the guy is kinda useless since you have to visit the Mundus to change build anyway.

I hope they still have this issue on their scope, would be great to have Munduses included and I would buy the Assistant myself.

Kiralyn2000 · March 2022

Outside of the highest level content, is it really necessary to change Mundus that often? (honestly curious)

But yeah, it's kind of crazy that Armory remembers everything else but that.

Arunei · March 2022

joseayalac wrote: »

When the Armory System launched, they said that they would continue taking a look at it so see what else could be implemented. This was a response to a player asking if they had plans for adding the Mundus stones. They didn't confirm that they wanted to add the Mundus Stones though.

It would halt their Mundus Stones Crownstore sales, but I believe that not implementing it is halting their Armory Assistant sales. Probably the Armory Assistant is capable of making them more revenue than the Munduses anyway. But the guy is kinda useless since you have to visit the Mundus to change build anyway.

I hope they still have this issue on their scope, would be great to have Munduses included and I would buy the Assistant myself.

It wouldn't affect their sales of Mundus Stones that much. Even if the Armory could save them, you'd still be limited to the ones you have saved to your slots. If you need to completely change one for any given build, having the Mundus Stones in your House would still be the fastest way to change them.

Theros · March 2022

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Outside of the highest level content, is it really necessary to change Mundus that often? (honestly curious)

But yeah, it's kind of crazy that Armory remembers everything else but that.

Templar do it alot for exemple! Healer or DD but have to change Mundus.

Blinx · March 2022

I use to swap between the thief, and the lover, depending on if my sorc was solo or grouped, now adays I don't bother, I play mostly solo so I stick with the lover, but I can understand some people wanting a change for an easier way to change mundus

Arunei · March 2022

Blinx wrote: »

I use to swap between the thief, and the lover, depending on if my sorc was solo or grouped, now adays I don't bother, I play mostly solo so I stick with the lover, but I can understand some people wanting a change for an easier way to change mundus

I pretty much just go with Lover on all my DPS these days myself.

Necrotech_Master · March 2022

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Outside of the highest level content, is it really necessary to change Mundus that often? (honestly curious)

But yeah, it's kind of crazy that Armory remembers everything else but that.

no idea, personally a lot of the mundus work well for either healer or DD

crit chance, dmg, recovery for for healer or DPS

even the crit dmg mundus lists both crit dmg and crit healing so again works for both

the only one which would be more focused on healer is the straight +healing done, and the only one which works more for dmg is penetration

many of my toons rarely if ever change mundus stones, there are even a few that lost theirs a couple of times due to random bugs and i sometimes went weeks without realizing it lol (i think i even did a vMA on my mag warden before realizing he was missing a mundus lol)

Mayrael · March 2022

Arunei wrote: »

I really don't understand why of all the things the Armory saves, the Mundus Stone is what it DOESN'T. The thing can even remove and apply Vamp/WW no problem, which changes your character more fundamentally than your Mundus does.

Because cash. You can buy mundus stones (4k crowns for one so almost as much as for an assistant) for the house, so why would ZOS suddenly decrease "your willingness" to buy those mundus stones for the house?

tmbrinks · March 2022

Mayrael wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

I really don't understand why of all the things the Armory saves, the Mundus Stone is what it DOESN'T. The thing can even remove and apply Vamp/WW no problem, which changes your character more fundamentally than your Mundus does.

Because cash. You can buy mundus stones (4k crowns for one so almost as much as for an assistant) for the house, so why would ZOS suddenly decrease "your willingness" to buy those mundus stones for the house?

It's the same as the AwA... ever wonder why some things were not made Account Wide? Oh, the shortcuts for those can be found in the crown store

(Mount Training, research, motifs, skill lines, ...)

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2022

Fairly certain Mundus stones were not added to the Armory because they didnt want to hurt mundus sales in the crown store. Seems an obvious middle ground would be to include mundus stones the user has purchased in the armory. It might even boost sales.

I have only ever had this be an issue in PVP, and only back in the day when we had long queues (you know, when pvp actually worked). It was a pain if you forgot to swap and needed mundus on the opposite side of the map.

That said, outside cyro, it takes like 30 seconds to change a mundus. If you dont have them in your home, someone in one of your guilds almost certainly does. If you arent in a guild, make some friends. I see this is a pretty minimal issue TBH.

Amottica · March 2022

I would not hold one’s breath hoping for mundus to be added to the armory due to previous exploits related to mundus stones. From what I hear Zenimax got burned with these exploits multiple times.

Theros · March 2022

Amottica wrote: »

I would not hold one’s breath hoping for mundus to be added to the armory due to previous exploits related to mundus stones. From what I hear Zenimax got burned with these exploits multiple times.

That can't be the real reason and i don't belive in "money" reason too.
They can fix any exploit (if they know about) but they prefer leave the exploit but remove mundus from armory? Don't make sence.

If not Armory... Then a new NPC will all Mundus! ZoS like NPC.... so, i can leave with other one. Mundus NPC!

Amottica · March 2022

Theros wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

I would not hold one’s breath hoping for mundus to be added to the armory due to previous exploits related to mundus stones. From what I hear Zenimax got burned with these exploits multiple times.

That can't be the real reason and i don't belive in "money" reason too.
They can fix any exploit (if they know about) but they prefer leave the exploit but remove mundus from armory? Don't make sence.

If not Armory... Then a new NPC will all Mundus! ZoS like NPC.... so, i can leave with other one. Mundus NPC!

Please suggest a better reason is what I suggested, which has a basis in the history of the game, cannot be the real reason.

Zama666 · July 2022

I am a Lover, not a Fighter!

NettleCarrier · July 2022

Zama666 wrote: »

I am a Lover, not a Fighter!

Not sure why you necro'd this post, but the mundus is now saved with the armory so this post has run its course

ZOS_Hadeostry · July 2022

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding.