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Cheating going on here or it's normal?
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kringled_1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have heard rumors of a possible exploit or cheat that allows a player to queue a large number of skills/heavy attacks, delay sending them to the server, and then send all of them to the server at once. Not saying that's the case here, but might be worth consideration.
I can't prove that such a thing isn't possible. But it's well known that death recaps are not particularly accurate at times. In pve instances with a long lived dot ticking on you, it's not uncommon to see that in a recap with total damage far more than your health because the recap is capturing some of the damage over a very long time.0 -
Magio_✭✭✭✭
Anyone making such a claim needs to post a video and/or Combat Metrics screenshots. Otherwise, it's safe to assume it's sore losers coping for a loss or not understanding there's delayed burst skills.I have heard rumors of a possible exploit or cheat that allows a player to queue a large number of skills/heavy attacks, delay sending them to the server, and then send all of them to the server at once. Not saying that's the case here, but might be worth consideration.Edited by Magio_ on July 5, 2022 7:12PM2 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have heard rumors of a possible exploit or cheat that allows a player to queue a large number of skills/heavy attacks, delay sending them to the server, and then send all of them to the server at once. Not saying that's the case here, but might be worth consideration.
Mostly those kind of rumors are started by ppl that want to look everywhere for the cause of their ig death but their own gameplay.<Noricum>
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Waylander07✭✭✭✭There is a hack advertised on YouTube and sold on discord for cheating in ESO which is easy to find so it's not a rumor. The guy has been doing it for years and released a video last month. I won't post a link as I got banned for doing this when trying to expose him a few years ago.
I can see why the op would think the way he has but this is the worse patch for balance that I have seen since launch with people getting 1 shotted with 37k heavy attack and even 20k+ light attacks which are legit due to broken builds, so it is harder than ever to know if someone is cheating.
Sadly, this game is more about what build you have rather than your skill level which is hard on highly skilled players who have worked hard to master the game (Just for the record I am not highly skilled nor have i mastered my build
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kypranb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭beyondspace wrote: »I know Knight Slayer set does Oblivion Damage, but 71K damage?! really? There is a cap for the maximum oblivion damage done for this set. 71K damage does not seem right. Please don't give me comments like "you are a bad player, just get good" . Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me? Oblivion damage ignores resistance. I don't care what you say,71K oblivion damage is just way too high and seems like cheating to me. Is this guy cheating to get the 71K oblivion damage?
71k / 12 HA= 6k each
not sure if 12 HA is still considered as burst
(also oblivion ignores shields, not resistance)
I'm actually fairly sure they balanced oblivion damage to be true damage a couple of years ago. It ignores Armor, Blocking, Damage Shields, Major/Minor Protection, Battle Spirit, and any other form of Mitigation.
In this specific case, I would assume if he dodged the Heavy Attack that procced Knight Slayer, he would have not taken damage.
You are correct in saying he is taking about 6k damage per hit from Knight Slayer, which puts his max health right around 75k give or take. I would toss some of that health and grab some sources of self healing. More information needed though.0 -
lockesty✭there have been instances where for example people exploited skoria by getting many procs at the same time,
i dont get why any of these people in this thread suddenly think it couldnt be cheating when it just shows 12x next to it?
lol like you couldnt just cheat by putting many instances proc at the same time, you have to do it more obviously and do 70k dmg in 1 instance
but yeah some cmx data would be better to see what happened
12x heavy-s in a bg environment is a long ass time lol0 -
biminirwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭You could have been off balance as well from the Warden Bird attack.
Rock. Paper. Scissors
You were shredded by an anti-tank heavy attack build.1 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭there have been instances where for example people exploited skoria by getting many procs at the same time,
i dont get why any of these people in this thread suddenly think it couldnt be cheating when it just shows 12x next to it?
lol like you couldnt just cheat by putting many instances proc at the same time, you have to do it more obviously and do 70k dmg in 1 instance
but yeah some cmx data would be better to see what happened
12x heavy-s in a bg environment is a long ass time lol
Not when fighting a permablock necro tank. I’ve honestly lost count of how many times I’ve just heavy attacked one over and over to build ultimate while they just stand there holding block. Then I move on to find better fights and leave them standing and blocking while other people build ultimate.
That’s all they do. Find someone willing to waste time on them, hold block and stand in place, move a few feet if someone casts negate, and transform if they take a little bit of heat. Rinse and repeat. This guy did that with someone who is specially built to cut though that play style and assumes it must be cheating.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭beyondspace wrote: »I know Knight Slayer set does Oblivion Damage, but 71K damage?! really? There is a cap for the maximum oblivion damage done for this set. 71K damage does not seem right. Please don't give me comments like "you are a bad player, just get good" . Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me? Oblivion damage ignores resistance. I don't care what you say,71K oblivion damage is just way too high and seems like cheating to me. Is this guy cheating to get the 71K oblivion damage?
71k / 12 HA= 6k each
not sure if 12 HA is still considered as burst
Correct. It does not appear to be 71k burst damage.
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Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Either it's blatant cheating or the Death Recap function is so badly broken it should be re-worked/fixed urgently to prevent serious misinformation and confusion.
It is not confusing. The death recap clearly shows that the 71k is the accumulation of 12 attacks and does not indicate it was burst damage.
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xPoisin✭✭✭hmmm, try to post some log based info with timestamps, that would be more than usefull…
Your post is just fine, cause someone just landed 12 heavy attacks on you with procsets and some poison… My HA DK build will kill you this way in 2-4 shots, cause she is doin average of 17-55K per heavy attack with oblivion enchant + knight slayer on inferno staff wiith infused trait (combined with torugs or heartland set).
Last time I saw something suspicious (in BGs especially) I have checked the logs with timestamps and then I openned a ticket with the logs, that have proven cheating of a player.
Logs have proven that he cheated the GCD with oversampling using “cheat lag” to land 5 skills in one second… He was not aware, but if he was using only 2-3 skills it would not be suspicious for me, cause the lag is causing that happen.
Honestly I did not met that player again…
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