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Arcane Staff? What about a Disease Staff?
MindOfTheSwarm
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Just thought that adding a new Destro staff type that deals Disease Damage would be really cool. Now with Dynamic scaling it could totally work on Mag toon.
Ult: Blight Storm
Rage: Applies Diseased status every hit.
Touch: Disease Damage. Clench could act as taunt for Disease tanks. Reach deals greater DoT damage.
Wall: Same but Disease Damage.
Impulse: Applies Major Defile.
Force Shock: Deals purely Disease Damage. With Crush still interrupting and Pulse dealing Disease AoE when hitting targets with Disease status.
Passives added to supplement Disease Damage.
Maybe Disease Staff equipped increases DoT damage by 8%.
Ult: Blight Storm
Rage: Applies Diseased status every hit.
Touch: Disease Damage. Clench could act as taunt for Disease tanks. Reach deals greater DoT damage.
Wall: Same but Disease Damage.
Impulse: Applies Major Defile.
Force Shock: Deals purely Disease Damage. With Crush still interrupting and Pulse dealing Disease AoE when hitting targets with Disease status.
Passives added to supplement Disease Damage.
Maybe Disease Staff equipped increases DoT damage by 8%.
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Dracan_Fontom✭✭✭✭✭I always thought it was strange having the magic schools being tied to staff. I thought it would have been better having each school being separate skill lines which can be used through a staff. Then an unattuned staff could be its own melee weapon type. The destruction school doesn't even need to be changed or they could get their own subset of skill lines based on the element like in Destruction. Additionally, Restoration could have sub skill lines which deal with the healing/support side of the school or the more offensive side ala poisons and disease.0 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Just thought that adding a new Destro staff type that deals Disease Damage would be really cool. Now with Dynamic scaling it could totally work on Mag toon.
Ult: Blight Storm
Rage: Applies Diseased status every hit.
Touch: Disease Damage. Clench could act as taunt for Disease tanks. Reach deals greater DoT damage.
Wall: Same but Disease Damage.
Impulse: Applies Major Defile.
Force Shock: Deals purely Disease Damage. With Crush still interrupting and Pulse dealing Disease AoE when hitting targets with Disease status.
Passives added to supplement Disease Damage.
Maybe Disease Staff equipped increases DoT damage by 8%.
it'd be nice to have more weapons but zos really seems against it unfortunately.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX1 -
MindOfTheSwarm✭✭✭✭✭
✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Just thought that adding a new Destro staff type that deals Disease Damage would be really cool. Now with Dynamic scaling it could totally work on Mag toon.
Ult: Blight Storm
Rage: Applies Diseased status every hit.
Touch: Disease Damage. Clench could act as taunt for Disease tanks. Reach deals greater DoT damage.
Wall: Same but Disease Damage.
Impulse: Applies Major Defile.
Force Shock: Deals purely Disease Damage. With Crush still interrupting and Pulse dealing Disease AoE when hitting targets with Disease status.
Passives added to supplement Disease Damage.
Maybe Disease Staff equipped increases DoT damage by 8%.
it'd be nice to have more weapons but zos really seems against it unfortunately.
The thing is, this wouldn’t need to be a new weapon really. It’s simply adding a new damage type and status to an underrepresented damage type. No new weapon models required. Simply an update to Destro Staff. It would be so easy and I wager very welcome.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The more options the better, eso weapon systems is so poor currently so it would be a no brainer to add at least something to it.1 -
MindOfTheSwarm✭✭✭✭✭
✭colossalvoids wrote: »The more options the better, eso weapon systems is so poor currently so it would be a no brainer to add at least something to it.
I agree. More weapons would be cool but I also understand the amount of work that would be needed due to motifs and weapon models if it were something completely new like a spear or crossbow.
However, my suggestion requires very little work. Simply an update to an existing skill line.0 -
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✭✭✭✭MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Just thought that adding a new Destro staff type that deals Disease Damage would be really cool. Now with Dynamic scaling it could totally work on Mag toon.
Ult: Blight Storm
Rage: Applies Diseased status every hit.
Touch: Disease Damage. Clench could act as taunt for Disease tanks. Reach deals greater DoT damage.
Wall: Same but Disease Damage.
Impulse: Applies Major Defile.
Force Shock: Deals purely Disease Damage. With Crush still interrupting and Pulse dealing Disease AoE when hitting targets with Disease status.
Passives added to supplement Disease Damage.
Maybe Disease Staff equipped increases DoT damage by 8%.
it'd be nice to have more weapons but zos really seems against it unfortunately.
The thing is, this wouldn’t need to be a new weapon really. It’s simply adding a new damage type and status to an underrepresented damage type. No new weapon models required. Simply an update to Destro Staff. It would be so easy and I wager very welcome.
i hope zos would see it that way.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX3 -
Skullstachio✭✭✭✭✭To be fair, there should be a plain old mage staff that lets you use the base magic abilities and do standard magic damage in addition to using destruction staff abilities with just magic damage rather than flame/shock/frost damage.
it would allow current sets like war maiden to be used amongst many other potential combinations.If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...
If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.0 -
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✭I like this idea. Variety is the spice of life and new motifs/skill-line wouldn't even be needed.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭I like this idea. Variety is the spice of life and new motifs/skill-line wouldn't even be needed.
I know right. It would be so easy. You could even test it out to see if the skills costing Magicka could work out, but if not Stamina costing would be fine. Initially I considered Poison or even a Physical 'Earth magic', but then I remembered that poor old Disease does not have a weapon tied to it and its been kind of left to wallow (lul).0 -
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✭Although in truth. A separate Disease staff with new skills would be better. Just offering an easy way to give us something new. Disease is the only damage type that does not have a weapon representation.
You could argue that Bleed is the same but most Dual Wield skills cover that.
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WinterHeart626✭✭✭✭MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Although in truth. A separate Disease staff with new skills would be better. Just offering an easy way to give us something new. Disease is the only damage type that does not have a weapon representation.
You could argue that Bleed is the same but most Dual Wield skills cover that.
Bleed…. Can we get Blood magic 🤔 I wouldn’t mind seeing disease get something, plague mages 😉0 -
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✭WinterHeart626 wrote: »MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Although in truth. A separate Disease staff with new skills would be better. Just offering an easy way to give us something new. Disease is the only damage type that does not have a weapon representation.
You could argue that Bleed is the same but most Dual Wield skills cover that.
Bleed…. Can we get Blood magic 🤔 I wouldn’t mind seeing disease get something, plague mages 😉
If the staff was completely separate and not an extension of Destro. Then morphs could provide Blood magic, dealing Bleed Damage.
Would be interesting if they cost Magicka too, with dynamic scaling it could work.
Furthermore, even if it was a separate skill line. Weapon models and motifs still wouldn’t be an issue. As all staves share the same models and motifs. Although I think that when holding a Disease Staff it should be held like a Restoration Staff.
Heavy Attack should be a channel effect. To be honest you could even take Resto Staff and covert what that does into a Disease Damage staff. Anything is possible.Edited by MindOfTheSwarm on July 5, 2022 4:28AM0 -
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✭✭✭I think at this point they're probably only going to give us new stuff in terms of sets.
The game is pushing a decade slowly, and we still have the same amount of weapons we did at launch.0 -
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✭I think at this point they're probably only going to give us new stuff in terms of sets.
The game is pushing a decade slowly, and we still have the same amount of weapons we did at launch.
This is true and honestly disheartening. Having a new staff would not be difficult to add. They could even have it behind a dlc paywall and people would still go for it. I see no reason why something like this cannot happen. Having new stuff in terms of sets only does not create variety, as at most you get one gimmick while 90% of builds are the same.
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