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Clone4423
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Why are you able to go right through other players and mounts with your character in this game? You can't do this to npcs. Seems to me the game would be more realistic if you couldn't do this. Could also be a good ball group nerf.
  • _Zathras_
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    Because of the griefing potential.

    I've been in games where people will block access to a banker, or other NPC. It's not a fun experience to have content denied to you because someone else is bored.
  • Clone4423
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    Haven't thought of that. Thanks for the reply
  • TaSheen
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    _Zathras_ wrote: »
    Because of the griefing potential.

    I've been in games where people will block access to a banker, or other NPC. It's not a fun experience to have content denied to you because someone else is bored.

    Yep. WoW and RIFT.... mammoths in WoW blocking mailboxes.... Ugh.
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    _Zathras_ wrote: »
    Because of the griefing potential.

    I've been in games where people will block access to a banker, or other NPC. It's not a fun experience to have content denied to you because someone else is bored.

    Yep. WoW and RIFT.... mammoths in WoW blocking mailboxes.... Ugh.

    I had a fun experience in old Diablo 2 Hardcore, playing a Necromancer when all our skeletons used to have collision. A Barbarian complained that all my pets were in his way trying to get through and couldn't move an inch further so I put up a town portal and went through it... the Barbarian soon died after as my pets were shielding me from a Multi-Shot Lightning Enchanted mob, he ate all that lightning my pets were soaking.
  • MrGarlic
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    There have, in the past of this game, been instances of 'Tythis' being impenetrable and able to block doorways. it has happened to me at the inn in Belkarth, Craglorn.

    Thankfully, it is a rare occurrence.
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  • RisenEclipse
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    I already can barely click on guild traders with the bears and twilights blocking my cursor lol no need to make those areas more of an obstical course then they need to be. Imagine this also in a few of those tightly spaced and usually crowded banks XD nah the game was desogned around the idea that you can pass through people if need be.

    Plus RPers already get mad enough with the npcs shoving them left and right when trying to rp in taverns. The amount of trolls doing that to them if they could with this, would be significant...
    Edited by RisenEclipse on June 29, 2022 10:45AM
  • Old_Foggy
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    _Zathras_ wrote: »
    Because of the griefing potential.

    I've been in games where people will block access to a banker, or other NPC. It's not a fun experience to have content denied to you because someone else is bored.

    Exactly this. I used to play SWTOR and people would buy from the market and go to the mail box close by to collect their purchases only to find some clown sitting on a huge mount covering the mail box to stop people using it among other things they thought funny to block.
  • DaiKahn
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    I had a fun experience in old Diablo 2 Hardcore, playing a Necromancer when all our skeletons used to have collision. A Barbarian complained that all my pets were in his way trying to get through and couldn't move an inch further so I put up a town portal and went through it... the Barbarian soon died after as my pets were shielding me from a Multi-Shot Lightning Enchanted mob, he ate all that lightning my pets were soaking.
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  • Holycannoli
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    Imagine with the crowd around the Vvardenfell banker if you couldn't get to it because of collision detection?

    And imagine the absolute crapshow Cyrodiil would be if the servers had to deal with collision detection along with everything else? Those servers can't handle the game in it's current state as it is.
  • Marronsuisse
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    Plus RPers already get mad enough with the npcs shoving them left and right when trying to rp in taverns. The amount of trolls doing that to them if they could with this, would be significant...

    I'm always trying to fast travel and having an NPC come up from behind and shove me so it cancels the animation... imagine if players could do that, haha.

  • Arthur_Spoonfondle
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    Clone4423 wrote: »
    Why are you able to go right through other players and mounts with your character in this game? You can't do this to npcs. Seems to me the game would be more realistic if you couldn't do this. Could also be a good ball group nerf.

    You are concerned about realism?

    In a fantasy game where your character can throw sparks and fireballs from it's bare hands?
  • Syldras
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    You are concerned about realism?
    In a fantasy game where your character can throw sparks and fireballs from it's bare hands?

    In my opinion, there's a big difference between using magic or clipping through (only some groups of) people. The use of magic is "realistic" within the narration or fictional world - magic is completely common and normal on Nirn, and there are many lore explanations on that. Being able to walk through people isn't.

    That said, I wouldn't want to change it, as it has practical reasons.
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  • Zenzuki
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    Clone4423 wrote: »
    Why are you able to go right through other players and mounts with your character in this game? You can't do this to npcs. Seems to me the game would be more realistic if you couldn't do this. Could also be a good ball group nerf.

    The answer to why no player has collision has already been addressed by others above, but to the bolded..

    You can do this to npcs by simply dodge-rolling through them. Any Boss or npc can be dodge-rolled through if they are in your way to going somewhere or you simply wish to attack them from the other side of them, etc.

    I wont even address the "realistic" comment as this is a Fantasy MMO.
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