FlopsyPrince wrote: »

rpa wrote: »

Exemplary Harmony Ring should be about 1500, give or take few hundred. Search for that in TTC and you should find plenty pointers to those. And mind your filters when shopping.
AwesomeGuildStore is great but it's rather easy to forget some old pesky filter when searching for a thing from guild traders. But it's an user error. Which tends to happen far too often to me.

That is the norm, but I could not find any even more expensive.

Troodon80 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Also, OP is complaining because they could not find something but it could be that there are not many posted on their server. I am assuming they went to major trading hubs.

They said PC-EU in their first post. I went to the first kiosks I could find (since I call Vivec City my home anyway), right near a wayshrine (see previous post). There's plenty available. Either they looked for the wrong thing, only searched TTC for the absolute cheapest end and then complained they were already taken, or had some leftover search filter in some addon. Any of the three are possible and none of them would be solved via a central auction house.

Just looked in Deshaan. First kiosk I came to hard two Harmony rings and one Harmony necklace (crafted set, but not relevant):


Here's a better one. Located at Gals Fendyn's kiosk just 30 seconds ago.

I am not sure if I went to Deshawn then and I am not surprised they sold, but none of those rings are there.

This still illustrates the problem. It is impossible now to know what is listed NOW.

Please stop blaming the searcher. I use Awesome Guild Store as well. The only search trait is "Harmony" and I selected for the entire JC area, not just the Ring I needed.

I did find 1 ring listed in Vivec City at 300,000 gold, but I am not going to pay that much for a research item. (It was a purple, likely crafted, ring.)

xaraan wrote: »

I'd be careful if you use any add-ons (didn't see if you were on PC), sometimes I have to reset my search or even search with no filters to find something. I've gone to a trader with what I needed listed, like Dark Convergence for example, just showing that and it will work for a few, then suddenly not and when I clear it and just look through all the light gear, I'd see the piece I was looking for. Not sure if that's an add on issue (probably) or base game bug though.

Also, a central auction house wouldn't make people list stuff that wasn't getting listed anyway. Maybe you mean you wouldn't have to use TTC and just open up the auction house and see if its there or not, and you might have still seen none were there but saved yourself hassle of running around. That I can understand. TTC can be weird, stuff only gets on the site if someone has the add on installed and the background program running, so if I list something for example (I do not use it) it won't show up on site until someone else scans the store I listed it in. It could be someone at the guild doing it to get listings up, or it could be the person buying the item having the program running, which means it gets listed as soon as it's being bought and might not always update fast enough to un-list it.

I don't think anyone thinks the way guild traders are set up is convenient, but what it does do it remove hundreds of millions of gold from the economy every week. You think inflation is bad now, if that wasn't there gold would be worthless right now. I really don't think that enough players realize that tens of millions of gold go to bid for spots that aren't even in prime cities. And to accomplish the same amount of gold removal with an auction house would require a ridiculous tax penalty for sales where you would not see cheaper items getting listed at all. (You'd also remove huge communities/guilds of players that are in trade guilds and a lot of the stuff they do to generate interest like raffles and such that often help spread some of the wealth since well to do players usually donate items to be in raffles).

I seriously doubt no research-level (Or Exemplary) rings are listed in the entire world. I think I did mistakenly say I saw none, but saw the 300K ring I mentioned in this post, but that was listed for use, not research. (It would not need purple otherwise.)

xaraan wrote: »

I'd be careful if you use any add-ons (didn't see if you were on PC), sometimes I have to reset my search or even search with no filters to find something. I've gone to a trader with what I needed listed, like Dark Convergence for example, just showing that and it will work for a few, then suddenly not and when I clear it and just look through all the light gear, I'd see the piece I was looking for. Not sure if that's an add on issue (probably) or base game bug though.

Also, a central auction house wouldn't make people list stuff that wasn't getting listed anyway. Maybe you mean you wouldn't have to use TTC and just open up the auction house and see if its there or not, and you might have still seen none were there but saved yourself hassle of running around. That I can understand. TTC can be weird, stuff only gets on the site if someone has the add on installed and the background program running, so if I list something for example (I do not use it) it won't show up on site until someone else scans the store I listed it in. It could be someone at the guild doing it to get listings up, or it could be the person buying the item having the program running, which means it gets listed as soon as it's being bought and might not always update fast enough to un-list it.

I don't think anyone thinks the way guild traders are set up is convenient, but what it does do it remove hundreds of millions of gold from the economy every week. You think inflation is bad now, if that wasn't there gold would be worthless right now. I really don't think that enough players realize that tens of millions of gold go to bid for spots that aren't even in prime cities. And to accomplish the same amount of gold removal with an auction house would require a ridiculous tax penalty for sales where you would not see cheaper items getting listed at all. (You'd also remove huge communities/guilds of players that are in trade guilds and a lot of the stuff they do to generate interest like raffles and such that often help spread some of the wealth since well to do players usually donate items to be in raffles).

Again I would ask So? At least let me search all guild vendors from one location. Location would still be valuable and I would have to try for them, but I would get real-time data on ALL platforms. I think the system was a bad design overall, but I agree it is here, just let me search all the listing real-time. Some guilds might go for an out-of-the way location for their choice, but they can do that already.