Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
spartaxoxo wrote: »Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
The auction house makes trading easier. This comes with benefits like making it easier to find the items you want. But it also makes it easier for big traders to flip everything constantly, which can drive prices up quite a bit.
The easier ability to flip items is one reason (of many) of why items are generally more expensive on PC. There are bigger traders on consoles as well but it's harder for them to snap everything up that's cheap due to it being very time consuming to check smaller traders that may or may not have better deals.
TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
I don't care about the auction house part of it tbh. But it's a knock-on effect so I mentioned it. The issue is that guild traders right now do nothing except restore a locked away function - selling items. So why not make them be a net positive for the gameplay experience as opposed to just using them as a tool to bring players out of a net negative feature state? The groundwork for it is already half way there.
TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »...it would still serve as a gold sink because guilds would be competing to offer the most attractive buffs/perks/benefits to their members.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
There is nothing wrong with the Global AH. Whenever this topic comes up you have the people who control the market in these rich guilds try to shoot anything down that takes gold away from them. This system was put in place to curb inflation and it failed. ZOS knows and won't even talk about it. I have tried to get many friends to try ESO out. Some do but when they see the guild trader system they laugh at it and quit. I'm just thankful I have 3 characters and all the gear they need for my play style. I stay away from the guild traders as much as I can now. I do like to look to see how bad it's getting now.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
There is nothing wrong with the Global AH. Whenever this topic comes up you have the people who control the market in these rich guilds try to shoot anything down that takes gold away from them. This system was put in place to curb inflation and it failed. ZOS knows and won't even talk about it. I have tried to get many friends to try ESO out. Some do but when they see the guild trader system they laugh at it and quit. I'm just thankful I have 3 characters and all the gear they need for my play style. I stay away from the guild traders as much as I can now. I do like to look to see how bad it's getting now.
But the system didn't fail though. Claiming it did is forgetting that the system is functioning just fine, without inflation, on two of the 3 platforms. And, that coincidentally, the 2 platforms that do not have inflation issues, also do not have addons that act like de-facto auction houses by compiling sales and listings information across the server.
Xbox crown to gold ratio is still in the 100/1 range, and has been pretty much in that same spot since crown gifting launched. Our gold plating is still in the 80-100K gold per plate range, and has only mildly fluctuated from there (to like 120K during a few weeks after a patch) since the jewelry crafting launched.
We do not have an inflation problem on console. Which is evidence that the actual in game trading system is not, in any way, responsible for in game inflation.
The first aspect is the same developers that decided to go with a trading system that also offered a social aspect
SilverBride wrote: »TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »...it would still serve as a gold sink because guilds would be competing to offer the most attractive buffs/perks/benefits to their members.
I think it's a pretty low chance that all of the members are going to find the same perks beneficial. This will do nothing but create conflict within guilds.
The first aspect is the same developers that decided to go with a trading system that also offered a social aspect
I disagree, the current system with guild traders discourage social aspect because I don't like wasting time going from trader to trader, and thus instead of wanting to trade with another player at all, I just do everything for myself and have less social interactions overall. Having a main auction house allows for more social interaction since you have a main area you go to for trading and can trade with other players directly there for potential better deals than the ones you get off the auction itself, instead of having people just not touch guild traders at all cause it's such a huge time waster unless you use a website outside of the game.
I'd rather see the tax raised from 7% to 70% as a proper gold sink. 5% for the guild, 65% gone forever. (no listing price).
I can understand that global auction houses don't work as a way to balance economies, but I also disagree that ESO found a good system by sticking to such a terribly low tax.
I believe someone suggested a graduated tax, which would be more effective since taking gold off the rich stops them purchasing items for re-sale (flipping makes a few people a LOT of money, which doesn't help the economy).
I'd love to see 5% tax on everything going to the guild, with:
5% vanishing tax up to 1k
10% up to 10k
25% up to 100k
45% up to 1 million
65% over 1 million
I know it wont happen, but I also think flipping is never taken into account when it comes to sales tax. Sure it'd mean a lot of people sell stuff in zone chat, but eh with the limited listings they do already.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
There is nothing wrong with the Global AH. Whenever this topic comes up you have the people who control the market in these rich guilds try to shoot anything down that takes gold away from them. This system was put in place to curb inflation and it failed. ZOS knows and won't even talk about it. I have tried to get many friends to try ESO out. Some do but when they see the guild trader system they laugh at it and quit. I'm just thankful I have 3 characters and all the gear they need for my play style. I stay away from the guild traders as much as I can now. I do like to look to see how bad it's getting now. ZOS has no idea how much of a big negative this system gives the game.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
There is nothing wrong with the Global AH. Whenever this topic comes up you have the people who control the market in these rich guilds try to shoot anything down that takes gold away from them. This system was put in place to curb inflation and it failed. ZOS knows and won't even talk about it. I have tried to get many friends to try ESO out. Some do but when they see the guild trader system they laugh at it and quit. I'm just thankful I have 3 characters and all the gear they need for my play style. I stay away from the guild traders as much as I can now. I do like to look to see how bad it's getting now. ZOS has no idea how much of a big negative this system gives the game.
Comrade_Ogilvy wrote: »Another global auction house request in disguise?
No thanks.
What is the problem with a global auction house?
(Honest and sincere question) The only MMO I have ever played is ESO so I have never seen a global auction house in action.
There is nothing wrong with the Global AH. Whenever this topic comes up you have the people who control the market in these rich guilds try to shoot anything down that takes gold away from them. This system was put in place to curb inflation and it failed. ZOS knows and won't even talk about it. I have tried to get many friends to try ESO out. Some do but when they see the guild trader system they laugh at it and quit. I'm just thankful I have 3 characters and all the gear they need for my play style. I stay away from the guild traders as much as I can now. I do like to look to see how bad it's getting now. ZOS has no idea how much of a big negative this system gives the game.
Please remember that while Consoles dont have addons they have army of bots that keep the most popular materials cheap. I wouldnt call that a "healthy" economy...