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Instead of Server Compensation next month, can we get the developer hide shoulder option, instead?
MakoRuu
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Last time ESO was borked, they gave us some good login rewards. A lion mount, and some crates especially.
But next time, can we just have the hide shoulder option that devs have, instead?
That would be a pretty dope compensation for borking launch day for High Isles. js
But next time, can we just have the hide shoulder option that devs have, instead?
That would be a pretty dope compensation for borking launch day for High Isles. js
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Mr_Stach✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Launch days are always bad for pretty much every MMO ever. Also lately ESO has had regular delays on REGULAR Maintenance. People should stop expecting things to go smoothly, stop taking launch days off, you'll just work yourself up on something that is destined to happen.
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maximusrex45✭✭✭✭Launch days are always bad for pretty much every MMO ever. Also lately ESO has had regular delays on REGULAR Maintenance. People should stop expecting things to go smoothly, stop taking launch days off, you'll just work yourself up on something that is destined to happen.
The first statement is pretty much not true other than the actual first launch day of the game ever. Accepting mediocrity and being an apologist for it are pretty sad.
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Mr_Stach✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭maximusrex45 wrote: »Launch days are always bad for pretty much every MMO ever. Also lately ESO has had regular delays on REGULAR Maintenance. People should stop expecting things to go smoothly, stop taking launch days off, you'll just work yourself up on something that is destined to happen.
The first statement is pretty much not true other than the actual first launch day of the game ever. Accepting mediocrity and being an apologist for it are pretty sad.
Here's the difference, do I want to things to be bad? Of Course not. Do I want it to be better? Of Course. But getting upset whenever every little thing pops up is a waste of energy. People being venomous because something is broken is ridiculous. I think Zos should get their act together, but I'm not going to moan about stuff if it takes longer. If I can't directly control something to speed something up, I wait.Edited by Mr_Stach on June 6, 2022 8:08PMAltoholic, Frost Warden Sympathizer and Main
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MakoRuu✭✭✭✭Launch days are always bad for pretty much every MMO ever. Also lately ESO has had regular delays on REGULAR Maintenance. People should stop expecting things to go smoothly, stop taking launch days off, you'll just work yourself up on something that is destined to happen.
I am giving this company hundreds of my hard earned dollars to enjoy their service. I will not simply roll over and "accept" that "these things happen." A massive half a billion dollar corporation needs to be held accountable to a higher degree of standards than that.
Especially on a highly significant event like the launch day of new expansion content.10 -
purple-magicb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭The operative word there is "favorite". Myself, I want a Matt Firor skin with the Gina Bruno arms pack.I don't comment here often but when I do, I get [snip]2 -
Androrix✭✭✭✭Well, tbh, online play was really beginning to eat into my precious maintenance time anyway. So I am glad Zen has moved to correct this obvious imbalance with the last few patches.
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hiding shoulders - easy. Just like helmet. I Hope they do this.
Hiding Flaps - not so easy since they tied most flaps to the chestpiece. Maybe they need to start making each chest with flap and without flap - like Robes / Jerkins
But at this point that would probably be a LOTTTTTT of work.
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Galiferno✭✭✭✭✭I would prefer something that is actually useful and valuable for as many people as possible. I would never use a hide shoulder option.0 -
MakoRuu✭✭✭✭barney2525 wrote: »Hiding shoulders - easy. Just like helmet. I Hope they do this.
Hiding Flaps - not so easy since they tied most flaps to the chestpiece. Maybe they need to start making each chest with flap and without flap - like Robes / Jerkins
But at this point that would probably be a LOTTTTTT of work.
The hide shoulder option is actually already in the game. It's been on a few live streams where they were showing off armor, but it's exclusive to the developers.
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MakoRuu✭✭✭✭barney2525 wrote: »Hiding shoulders - easy. Just like helmet. I Hope they do this.
Hiding Flaps - not so easy since they tied most flaps to the chestpiece. Maybe they need to start making each chest with flap and without flap - like Robes / Jerkins
But at this point that would probably be a LOTTTTTT of work.
Giving us hide shoulders would just be switching a few lines of code because it's already in the game.
Hiding the chest piece tassets that sit over your legs would be harder, because they would need to go through and edit every chest piece in the game that has them.1 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Launch days are always bad for pretty much every MMO ever. Also lately ESO has had regular delays on REGULAR Maintenance. People should stop expecting things to go smoothly, stop taking launch days off, you'll just work yourself up on something that is destined to happen.
I am giving this company hundreds of my hard earned dollars to enjoy their service. I will not simply roll over and "accept" that "these things happen." A massive half a billion dollar corporation needs to be held accountable to a higher degree of standards than that.
Especially on a highly significant event like the launch day of new expansion content.
May I remind you of the TOS. Purchase in any form does not guarantee access.2 -
Mr_Stach✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Zos could just shut down ESO tomorrow and would owe you nothing, yeah it would suck but that's the short of it.Altoholic, Frost Warden Sympathizer and Main
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rootkitronin✭✭✭✭✭Zos could just shut down ESO tomorrow and would owe you nothing, yeah it would suck but that's the short of it.
I mean, sure, they could - but the blowback on that would be pretty significant, plus it would kill what is probably one of their largest revenue streams (if not their largest - gaming wise anyway). On top of that, their customers would go find other games to spend their hard earned money.
Yeah, they could shut it down, but ZOS needs their customers far more than their customers need ZOS. People would do good to remember that.2 -
KitsuneShoujo✭✭✭I too would like the hide shoulders option enabled as compensation! There's no reason they could give me for not allowing it.3 -
KitsuneShoujo✭✭✭Zos could just shut down ESO tomorrow and would owe you nothing, yeah it would suck but that's the short of it.
Technically not true. Taking our money and then shutting down the servers with no intention of re-opening them is theft. They would have took money for a service not rendered.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rootkitronin wrote: »Zos could just shut down ESO tomorrow and would owe you nothing, yeah it would suck but that's the short of it.
I mean, sure, they could - but the blowback on that would be pretty significant, plus it would kill what is probably one of their largest revenue streams (if not their largest - gaming wise anyway). On top of that, their customers would go find other games to spend their hard earned money.
Yeah, they could shut it down, but ZOS needs their customers far more than their customers need ZOS. People would do good to remember that.
I have a feeling that even if that were to happen, I think alot of players would maybe be angry for a while and, if ESO 2 was announced, all would be forgiven."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0 -
Sionz13Soul ShrivenI mean if you want ESO+ compensation to your account because you pay the monthly fee, I think you're out like .202
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Mr_Stach✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rootkitronin wrote: »Zos could just shut down ESO tomorrow and would owe you nothing, yeah it would suck but that's the short of it.
I mean, sure, they could - but the blowback on that would be pretty significant, plus it would kill what is probably one of their largest revenue streams (if not their largest - gaming wise anyway). On top of that, their customers would go find other games to spend their hard earned money.
Yeah, they could shut it down, but ZOS needs their customers far more than their customers need ZOS. People would do good to remember that.
Yeah I don't disagree, and you bring up a good point, revenue is key. The Players aren't really the customers, otherwise they would be held accountable to us, rather the Producer is, who is at this point Microsoft. You are the Product, in both money coming in and player Engagement. We can ask and ask all day long and nothing will often come of it, but the big wigs at Microsoft or whoever that does Pay Zos, they will make changes immediately.Altoholic, Frost Warden Sympathizer and Main
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TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Here is conpensation
Increase the furniture slots on notable homes to 500/10002 -
Mr_Stach✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »Here is conpensation
Increase the furniture slots on notable homes to 500/1000
Won't happen, Old Gen Consoles are holding back some things. Compensation will be the ability to play the game you paid for.
Congratz.Altoholic, Frost Warden Sympathizer and Main
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Launch days are always bad for pretty much every MMO ever. Also lately ESO has had regular delays on REGULAR Maintenance. People should stop expecting things to go smoothly, stop taking launch days off, you'll just work yourself up on something that is destined to happen.
I am giving this company hundreds of my hard earned dollars to enjoy their service. I will not simply roll over and "accept" that "these things happen." A massive half a billion dollar corporation needs to be held accountable to a higher degree of standards than that.
Especially on a highly significant event like the launch day of new expansion content.
Oh please.
3 weeks from now you wont even remember this happened.
I've played other games where much worse issues had servers shut down for multiple days. After all the players screaming and yelling and gnashing of teeth on forums and discord....
two weeks after the game was fixed no one even mentioned the issue. 4 -
KitsuneShoujo✭✭✭rootkitronin wrote: »Zos could just shut down ESO tomorrow and would owe you nothing, yeah it would suck but that's the short of it.
I mean, sure, they could - but the blowback on that would be pretty significant, plus it would kill what is probably one of their largest revenue streams (if not their largest - gaming wise anyway). On top of that, their customers would go find other games to spend their hard earned money.
Yeah, they could shut it down, but ZOS needs their customers far more than their customers need ZOS. People would do good to remember that.
Yeah I don't disagree, and you bring up a good point, revenue is key. The Players aren't really the customers, otherwise they would be held accountable to us, rather the Producer is, who is at this point Microsoft. You are the Product, in both money coming in and player Engagement. We can ask and ask all day long and nothing will often come of it, but the big wigs at Microsoft or whoever that does Pay Zos, they will make changes immediately.
Again not true. We pay Zenimax for a service. That service is being able to play in their game. ESO is the product, we are the consumer. Just because we can't hold them accountable doesn't make us any less of a customer.1 -
rootkitronin✭✭✭✭✭
I have a feeling that even if that were to happen, I think alot of players would maybe be angry for a while and, if ESO 2 was announced, all would be forgiven.
Ahaha so very true, and I'm not going to lie, there's a good chance I would probably be one of those people (as much as I hate to admit it).
The Elder Scrolls is such a unique setting and it's hard to replace, so let's hope it doesn't come to that - I'd like to believe that the people working on ESO are just as passionate about it as the players are.0 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭KitsuneShoujo wrote: »rootkitronin wrote: »Zos could just shut down ESO tomorrow and would owe you nothing, yeah it would suck but that's the short of it.
I mean, sure, they could - but the blowback on that would be pretty significant, plus it would kill what is probably one of their largest revenue streams (if not their largest - gaming wise anyway). On top of that, their customers would go find other games to spend their hard earned money.
Yeah, they could shut it down, but ZOS needs their customers far more than their customers need ZOS. People would do good to remember that.
Yeah I don't disagree, and you bring up a good point, revenue is key. The Players aren't really the customers, otherwise they would be held accountable to us, rather the Producer is, who is at this point Microsoft. You are the Product, in both money coming in and player Engagement. We can ask and ask all day long and nothing will often come of it, but the big wigs at Microsoft or whoever that does Pay Zos, they will make changes immediately.
Again not true. We pay Zenimax for a service. That service is being able to play in their game. ESO is the product, we are the consumer. Just because we can't hold them accountable doesn't make us any less of a customer.
Yes we are a customer. But we do not own the right to access content anytime we want. There are reasonable limits to that access and ESO+ has those terms built in. Regular and major game updates are covered under those terms. As are emergency hit fixes and maintenance. If zos was down for 3 straight weeks there would probably be cause for dispute but not for this.
For those complaining about lost ESO+ time. You have likely wasted more of your sub time sleeping, eating, otherwise engaging in irl stuff than this extended maintenance.
In addition to that we have known about this chapter update releasing today for months. Historically, many of these updates have gone same as today. Why should you have expected any less?1 -
Merrien✭✭✭barney2525 wrote: »Hiding shoulders - easy. Just like helmet. I Hope they do this.
Hiding Flaps - not so easy since they tied most flaps to the chestpiece. Maybe they need to start making each chest with flap and without flap - like Robes / Jerkins
But at this point that would probably be a LOTTTTTT of work.
The hide shoulder option is actually already in the game. It's been on a few live streams where they were showing off armor, but it's exclusive to the developers.
Oh good lord. I hope they give this to the players. Thanks for the post, I didn't know this.0 -
MakoRuu✭✭✭✭Oh good lord. I hope they give this to the players. Thanks for the post, I didn't know this.
Yeah, it's been in the game for a while, too. This live stream was like over a year ago. I think it was for Greymoor.
Seems like a pretty simple thing to just flip a switch in the code to allow it to be universally access by everyone.
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