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Poll: "Gambit" in ESO
Bobargus
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In my previous posts, i'm sure that i must have mentioned something about the idea of a PvEvP game mode from Destiny 2, named "Gambit", being added into ESO, as an alternative competitive end-game activity for casual players.
But i couldn't get that much of an answer about it enough to come to a definite conclusion personally.
And i do wonder about what people think about this specifically.
So here it is: Should a game mode such as "Gambit" be added into ESO in the future?
Edited by Bobargus on June 6, 2022 5:40AM But i couldn't get that much of an answer about it enough to come to a definite conclusion personally.
And i do wonder about what people think about this specifically.
So here it is: Should a game mode such as "Gambit" be added into ESO in the future?
Poll: "Gambit" in ESO 52 votes
Yes
25%
13 votes
No
67%
35 votes
Other
7%
4 votes
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭what is gambit? can you at least explain what it is before giving me a poll option?PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
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WiseSky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtherESO_Nightingale wrote: »what is gambit? can you at least explain what it is before giving me a poll option?
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NeuroticPixels✭✭✭✭✭YesIdk wth Gambit is, but I’m all for new content of all kinds.Check out the ReShade I made: Crispy Sharpness0
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Etny2k✭✭I think pvp is fine. I do think we need a fair or circus like island. A place that celebrates all year and incorporates node trade ups. Something interesting with plenty of entertaining things. Also a new in game gambler. Not a crown store gambler.1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoThe only game where mixing PvE and PvP makes sense is EVE - I have never seen any other game, where it was beneficial to mix these play styles. We have that in the imperial city for example - at least well tucked away and out of sight.2 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoPVPVE is not good."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle4 -
Toanis✭✭✭✭✭I assume gambit is a deathmatch arena with NPC opponents?
Otherwise what would be the difference to Cyrodiil or IC?0 -
Bobargus✭✭✭✭YesTo those who asked what "Gambit" was, i apologize for not explaining.
It's basically an instanced 4vs4 PvEvP game mode, in which you race as a team against the opposing team in terms of killing the adds, banking a stack of currency nameed "motes" into a pillar-like looking bank, and summon the boss (primeval) and it's mini-bosses (envoys).
Your job is to kill the boss before the opposing team does.
You have 4 roles in Gambit:
- Collector: the gatherer of resources in order to summon the boss
- Sentinel: The one who will protect the team's bank from the opposing invader
- Invader: The player who will invade the other team all by themselves, one person at a time; and kill the opposing team, steal their motes/currencies, and not only bank them into your team's bank, but also stop the opfor from summoning theirs.
- And the Slayer, whose job is solely to kill pve things; adds, mini boss, boss, anything except the players.
-Note: It is primarily the sentinel's job the kill the invaders, but anyone from the opfor can kill the invader.
In short: Gambit is a PvEvP boss dps'ing/parsing race which also involves a tiny bit of pvp.1 -
Bobargus✭✭✭✭YesThere already is a PvEvP mode, it's Cyrodiil
I can barely handle one player in pvp.
I can't do anything against a team coming at me at the same time.
I suck at pvp. I also don't do trials. So i was thinking about an alternative end-game.
Because as things are, i'd hate to come to ESO, complete the quests, go away, and then come back again after another expansion pack comes; when i can spend my time doing something repeatable, competitive, casual friendly, and involves doing things with other players.
Otherwise, the Dark Brotherhood contract missions provide enough single player repeatable content for me, after the quests completed.0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoThe only game where mixing PvE and PvP makes sense is EVE - I have never seen any other game, where it was beneficial to mix these play styles. We have that in the imperial city for example - at least well tucked away and out of sight.
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captainwolfos✭✭✭✭NoLeave me alone to do things myself without interruptions and gankers.Enemy of Boob Plates
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The3sFinest✭✭✭✭NoAs long as you leave out the invader part, then sure. Otherwise, Gambit is the worst mode ever made.2 -
Morgaledh✭✭✭No
People 1v1 in Cyro? Man, Cyro is all about joining up, finding the Zerg, AOE into the Zerg, collect AP when everyone your AOE significantly hit dies, and then manning siege equip at base assaults/defenses.
Cyro isn't dueling, it's total war. I hated it until I figured that out. Now, it's hilarious 100% of the time (also tuning in to Cyro chat while 1v1 players rage is just as hilarious).1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoTo those who asked what "Gambit" was, i apologize for not explaining.
It's basically an instanced 4vs4 PvEvP game mode, in which you race as a team against the opposing team in terms of killing the adds, banking a stack of currency nameed "motes" into a pillar-like looking bank, and summon the boss (primeval) and it's mini-bosses (envoys).
Your job is to kill the boss before the opposing team does.
You have 4 roles in Gambit:
- Collector: the gatherer of resources in order to summon the boss
- Sentinel: The one who will protect the team's bank from the opposing invader
- Invader: The player who will invade the other team all by themselves, one person at a time; and kill the opposing team, steal their motes/currencies, and not only bank them into your team's bank, but also stop the opfor from summoning theirs.
- And the Slayer, whose job is solely to kill pve things; adds, mini boss, boss, anything except the players.
-Note: It is primarily the sentinel's job the kill the invaders, but anyone from the opfor can kill the invader.
In short: Gambit is a PvEvP boss dps'ing/parsing race which also involves a tiny bit of pvp.
Thanks for explaining, so it is basically in it's own arena and would be a variation of what we have in battlegrounds. I'm personally not interested in killing any player nor getting killed by another player - so my vote is still "no" - but to be fair, I could imagine that it could be another variant in the existing battleground system.
Where you are wrong though is that it would make anyone, not interested into PvP playing this just because it would be just a form of "light pvp" - this is not going to happen, those disliking pvp do that by a reason and often with a passion. They will certainly not participate. And the others do not need a pvp light. So who would be playing this?Edited by Lysette on June 6, 2022 4:01PM2 -
Mythgard1967✭✭✭✭✭The only game where mixing PvE and PvP makes sense is EVE - I have never seen any other game, where it was beneficial to mix these play styles. We have that in the imperial city for example - at least well tucked away and out of sight.
Warhammer Online did a really good job with PvPvE.
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JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesGambit is a game mode where players kill mobs to collect "motes" where they would bank such "motes" in a bank at the center of their map. You lose motes by dying by any source. If you bank a certain amount of motes at once, you summon a blocker (npc add) that prevents the players on the other side from banking until that blocker is dead. The blocker, depending on its strength will attack the players just like the mobs would, but stronger. (PVE) What players on the other side can do, is to invade and kill other players to drop motes (PVP). After banking a certain amount of motes as a team, a boss is summoned and your goal is to kill your boss before the other side can summon and kill theirs. What invaders can do when the other side summons the boss is still to invade and kill other players healing the boss.0 -
Bobargus✭✭✭✭YesThe3sFinest wrote: »As long as you leave out the invader part, then sure. Otherwise, Gambit is the worst mode ever made.
I completely agree with you. I personally wouldn't want pvp in Gambit either.0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Say IC is the PvEvP mode, Cyrodil its either dedicated PvP or PvE with the mostly minor risk of PvP.There already is a PvEvP mode, it's Cyrodiil
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYou really should have explained in detail what Gambit was and how it translates into ESO.
Imo Gambit would be extremely popular but I think ESO has a ton of balancing issues that need addressing first. This game mode would be a disaster with the amount of tankiness possible rn.
I’d say picking from a variety of loadouts would make a huge difference... but ofc this is already the situation in BGs with poor balance/no loadouts and ZOS let it turn into a disaster 🤷♂️Edited by Vaoh on June 6, 2022 6:22PM0 -
Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To those who asked what "Gambit" was, i apologize for not explaining.
It's basically an instanced 4vs4 PvEvP game mode, in which you race as a team against the opposing team in terms of killing the adds, banking a stack of currency nameed "motes" into a pillar-like looking bank, and summon the boss (primeval) and it's mini-bosses (envoys).
Your job is to kill the boss before the opposing team does.
You have 4 roles in Gambit:
- Collector: the gatherer of resources in order to summon the boss
- Sentinel: The one who will protect the team's bank from the opposing invader
- Invader: The player who will invade the other team all by themselves, one person at a time; and kill the opposing team, steal their motes/currencies, and not only bank them into your team's bank, but also stop the opfor from summoning theirs.
- And the Slayer, whose job is solely to kill pve things; adds, mini boss, boss, anything except the players.
-Note: It is primarily the sentinel's job the kill the invaders, but anyone from the opfor can kill the invader.
In short: Gambit is a PvEvP boss dps'ing/parsing race which also involves a tiny bit of pvp.
It sounds like fun, they could do special BG modes to implement something like this.1 -
SturgeHammer✭✭✭✭YesI think any sort of instanced team vs team pve mode would be interesting. A direct pvp element probably isn't necessary to make it successful.First-in-Line - Swings-for-Lethal
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N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoMixing PvE and PvP usually isn't a good idea. Everyone I played D2 with has hated Gambit. It was interesting when it first came out but got old really fast. It quickly turned into "do at start of season for powerful rewards to help level up, then ignore until next season because we can't stand it."
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Just wanted to add that I played D2 since launch and just tapered off before Witch Queen. Something like ~10k hours between Battle.net, Steam and Xbox.Edited by N00BxV1 on June 6, 2022 7:54PM0 -
barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoTrying to mimic other games diminishes the main game.
Archeage does this with a few events - which end up getting less and less participation once one side ends up dominating the other on a regular basis. Players will stop bothering with it and go do what they normally focus on in ESO.
Thats what is Fun for them.
Edited by barney2525 on June 6, 2022 8:00PM0
