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IDEA please no bad moaning comments lol

EozZoe1989
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i was thinking because alot people on social media have been talking about having frineds on NA servers.. from EU..-and some people from NA wanting to play on EU because they have friends..
the thing is thou people do do this.. streamers and more.. and it is a little laggy lol..
but the thing is why not make it a one big server..
one server for all.. na and eu combine ..
people do have friends and streamers need this too,--meow
  • Beilin_Balreis_Colcan
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    I think the servers are split into two because having all players on one would create too high a load on the server. Synchronising player's settings and game states between the 2 servers might also be difficult, because it could also create a higher load on the servers.

    So, no bad comment from me, but I just don't think merging the servers would be practical. Hopefully, you'll get some decent feedback on *your* thread, though. I raised an "idea" thread last week and just got a lot of negativity, and regretted creating the thread :(
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  • EozZoe1989
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    then they need to make it more nicer for eu and na to cross over lol.. .. or somthing
  • Aislinna
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    Distance from a server makes a large difference in game performance, i.e., the closer you physically are to a server, the lower your ping rate generally is, making it better. This is why there tends to be separate servers for the NA and EU continents and why AU tends to ask for a server in their county.
    Edited by Aislinna on May 29, 2022 10:23PM
  • EozZoe1989
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    oo what about third server for na and eu lol to join in one server who have friends then .. oo .. or just combine be easier ther eis not alot people beacuse the game has people playing mor eon xbox and playstation .. so.... i think be fine to combien the servers ,., but o well
  • Beilin_Balreis_Colcan
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Distance from a server makes a large difference in game performance, i.e., the closer you physically are to a server, the lower your ping rate generally is, making it better. This is why there tends to be separate servers for the NA and EU continents and why AU tends to ask for a server in their county.
    Yes, that would be good, playing with a ping constantly around 400 is inconvenient sometimes.
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  • EozZoe1989
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Distance from a server makes a large difference in game performance, i.e., the closer you physically are to a server, the lower your ping rate generally is, making it better. This is why there tends to be separate servers for the NA and EU continents and why AU tends to ask for a server in their county.

    we have friends in na thou.. and eu ..so its sad for people who have the issues and i think they should fix that.. make a serve rin every country then lol
  • redspecter23
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    I think in a perfect world there only ever would have been one server, regardless of platform or region. For various reasons, they went with what they have now, partially for performance, partially due to obligations with Microsoft and Sony.

    There are plenty of things that would be nice to have, but sometimes it's just not realistically possible to do so unfortunately. I'd love it if they just removed all load screens all the time. That would be a major quality of life improvement, but the limitations of the game demand that we have some load screens. There isn't much that can be done about that.
  • EozZoe1989
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    I think in a perfect world there only ever would have been one server, regardless of platform or region. For various reasons, they went with what they have now, partially for performance, partially due to obligations with Microsoft and Sony.

    There are plenty of things that would be nice to have, but sometimes it's just not realistically possible to do so unfortunately. I'd love it if they just removed all load screens all the time. That would be a major quality of life improvement, but the limitations of the game demand that we have some load screens. There isn't much that can be done about that.

    lol get sony to share shares on the game then lol
  • FluffWit
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    Aislinna wrote: »
    Distance from a server makes a large difference in game performance, i.e., the closer you physically are to a server, the lower your ping rate generally is, making it better. This is why there tends to be separate servers for the NA and EU continents and why AU tends to ask for a server in their county.

    This is the (perfectly valid) argument with all these games really.

    I play on the US server from New Zealand- about as far away as you can be. I certainly notice the difference in ping but it's not that bad.

    I want servers merged simply because it would up the pvp campaign populations. If it meant we could consistently have 2 bars in Grey Host 24 hours a day I think it's worth it.
  • Mr_Stach
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    I will take your Giant Merge thing and Raise you Cross-platform NA & EU Servers.
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  • Amottica
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    vsrs_au wrote: »
    I think the servers are split into two because having all players on one would create too high a load on the server. Synchronising player's settings and game states between the 2 servers might also be difficult, because it could also create a higher load on the servers.

    So, no bad comment from me, but I just don't think merging the servers would be practical. Hopefully, you'll get some decent feedback on *your* thread, though. I raised an "idea" thread last week and just got a lot of negativity, and regretted creating the thread :(

    This would be correct.

    Zenimax has had to add capacity multiple times to EU and at least once to NA to handle capacity. Each server is already significantly larger than a WoW of FF14 server.

    Also, the EU players would be the ones to suffer as a single server would likely be located in NA for obvious reasons. They would be the ones suffering from higher latency. Just ask our AUS friends about their experience playing on servers far, far away from home.

    I could care less either way and am just noting the drawbacks.
  • Mr_Stach
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    Amottica wrote: »
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    I think the servers are split into two because having all players on one would create too high a load on the server. Synchronising player's settings and game states between the 2 servers might also be difficult, because it could also create a higher load on the servers.

    So, no bad comment from me, but I just don't think merging the servers would be practical. Hopefully, you'll get some decent feedback on *your* thread, though. I raised an "idea" thread last week and just got a lot of negativity, and regretted creating the thread :(

    This would be correct.

    Zenimax has had to add capacity multiple times to EU and at least once to NA to handle capacity. Each server is already significantly larger than a WoW of FF14 server.

    Also, the EU players would be the ones to suffer as a single server would likely be located in NA for obvious reasons. They would be the ones suffering from higher latency. Just ask our AUS friends about their experience playing on servers far, far away from home.

    I could care less either way and am just noting the drawbacks.

    I mean they've already stated that they were running on old Hardware, so maybe if they just you know Upgraded their *** there would be less of an issue
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  • oldbobdude
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    I am in US but play on both NA and EU. Sometimes, especially during peak, EU is a little laggy. But most of the time is fine. I enjoy having a character on EU that is completely separate from NA. No AwA issues and play when one of the servers is down.
  • EozZoe1989
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    the thing is lol if people can play on both.. then whats the dam point lol having eu and na.. why not just have one,, the thing is there i alot players on the game but not that many maybe final fantasy sized.. maybe.. during the events.. but not on events.. its really cool.. thing is if they get server for aussie and newlealnd.. would help
    and if anything in some other parts world i seen lineas from canada that pc person build a server in his compnay and at home for his house.. so it can be done lol...
    why not rent someone who plays eso in nz and au and just help out they mighth do it for free if you give them the parts lol
    other thing is merging would not be bad people dont know the requirments to build servers so people would not know the ssds and other things that going in to building a server lol
    its easy if have lots money lol--- meow..
    final fantasy and other games have named servers.. not eu and na..
    they have names and many.. while this game has 2 ..
    make it three ..
    1 na
    2 eu
    3 mega... eu and na combine .,. meow or

    1 that has na and eu merged..
  • Wolfpaw
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    I would prefer servers to be region locked, unfortunately will not happen.
  • belial5221_ESO
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    It's separated and meant to keep ppl as low pingtime as possible in their area,especially for pvp and gorup content.Imagine trials where someone has 500ms+ ping and constantly causes deaths,or lags in speed/no death runs.If you wanna play with friends,play on the different servers,cause I don't wanna be forced on a single megaserver that wil cause more issues than they got now.Also,it would mean merging databases,and that won't happen according to zos.
  • bmnoble
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    Isn't it a bit late for that it would be one thing if they had done it day one, they don't even want to do server transfers from console for fear of screwing up something in the data base.

    You have people who have purchased stuff on both servers, would they get a refunded the duplicate items they bought if they merged servers?

    What about character names if the data bases were merged who would get to keep them and who would be forced to change names?

    A few guild mates play on the other server simply because they lacked enough character slots for their alt addiction and did not want to buy another account, would they get all 36 characters for their account or have to say good bye to one servers worth of characters, to maintain the current 18 character slot limit?
  • Amottica
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    Amottica wrote: »
    vsrs_au wrote: »
    I think the servers are split into two because having all players on one would create too high a load on the server. Synchronising player's settings and game states between the 2 servers might also be difficult, because it could also create a higher load on the servers.

    So, no bad comment from me, but I just don't think merging the servers would be practical. Hopefully, you'll get some decent feedback on *your* thread, though. I raised an "idea" thread last week and just got a lot of negativity, and regretted creating the thread :(

    This would be correct.

    Zenimax has had to add capacity multiple times to EU and at least once to NA to handle capacity. Each server is already significantly larger than a WoW of FF14 server.

    Also, the EU players would be the ones to suffer as a single server would likely be located in NA for obvious reasons. They would be the ones suffering from higher latency. Just ask our AUS friends about their experience playing on servers far, far away from home.

    I could care less either way and am just noting the drawbacks.

    I mean they've already stated that they were running on old Hardware, so maybe if they just you know Upgraded their *** there would be less of an issue

    They already replaced PC NA hardware but we need to ensure the game is running well and leave space for Zenimax to add new systems instead of manning everyone play in North America.

    It is not likely Zenimax will combine the geographic servers because it will degrade the playing experience for many players regardless of what hardware the servers are using. Just ask our Aussie friends how their experience playing ESO is.
  • Troodon80
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    Yeah, no thanks. It would likely be a North American server. It's bad enough trying to do stuff on PTS. There's a reason why I don't do more with my NA characters, aside from the fact that nothing carries over in terms of character/account progression, items, and crown store purchases. Even if they were to make a complete copy, performance would be terrible for anyone outside of North America. If they advertised it as the place to be, performance would also suffer because of the probable congestion and they'd have to go the world/realm/sharding that most other MMOs use and cap the number of concurrent players.

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  • NeuroticPixels
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    I hate to be that person but… too many languages other than English are spoken on the EU server. I’m a poor, busy peasant that only speaks and understands English. So I tend to stay on the NA side unless it’s under maintenance and I’m bored enough to withstand the bad latency and not understanding everything said on EU zone chats. :#
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I think a super merge would cause more issues due to the the Data Centers being too spread apart. But if they has Cross Platform (PC/Xbox/PS5) Servers it could potentially fix a lot of population issues for both PvP and PvE.

    Just my 2 cents on that.
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  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

    We have recently removed some unnecessary back and forth from this thread. This is a reminder to keep the discussion civil and constructive. Please keep our Community Rules in mind moving forward.

    Thank you for your understanding.
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on May 30, 2022 4:54PM
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  • SainguinKrist
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    Nevermind, I'll probably get a ban if I say anything else.
    Edited by SainguinKrist on May 30, 2022 4:56PM
    I have characters that have classes.

    I'm not sure what their names are.

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  • Troodon80
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    I hate to be that person but… too many languages other than English are spoken on the EU server. I’m a poor, busy peasant that only speaks and understands English. So I tend to stay on the NA side unless it’s under maintenance and I’m bored enough to withstand the bad latency and not understanding everything said on EU zone chats. :#
    Not to seem contrary, but English is by far and away the most dominant language on the EU server.

    I'm putting this into a spoiler because I don't want to go too far off-topic.
    Of course it's not the only one and of course there are people who simply do not speak it... and others who won't speak it. Others try to enforce English as being the dominant language to be typed in /zone. That's always a "fun" discussion to see. Most non-English chat will be guild advertisements -- if you don't understand it, then it's not a guild you're likely to want to join. :P

    I saw a guild being advertised within the last hour called The Dutch Republic... advertised in English. Another one with a very German sounding name asking for "German speakers only" also advertised in English. Which seemed...contradictory.

    I helped a French person a while back who was looking for daily quest shares in the Deadlands/Fargrave. I asked what quests they were missing (since I have all of them spread across various characters) and they rattled off a bunch of French quest names. But they spoke very good English and attempted to translate.

    What I find is, the biggest issue isn't being able to understand people... it's getting them to say just about anything outside of LFGs or WTB/S/T. From what I understand based on other people's posts is that people on NA are more talkative while those on EU are more recluse/withdrawn/private. Though speaking from personal experience, I don't engage with zone chat unless it's a topic that interests me or someone looking for help who hasn't had a reply, so I don't see people needing to justify their silence either.

    We probably have a similar amount of English on EU compared to the other languages as the NA server has compared to Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese, Chinese, Japanese, or even Russian.

    Language/locale would definitely not be the deciding factor in the discussion. :smile:

    Edited by Troodon80 on May 30, 2022 5:00PM
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  • SilverBride
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    Just make characters on both servers.
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  • pklemming
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    They already have/had enough issues with the servers as they are, with PC-EU often getting server lag due to numbers. A Mega server will make things worse.

    Then we have latency. In Europe, I do not want to be connecting to a NA server if possible, and vice-versa.

    When thinking about ideas, you may want to think a little more first before posting.
    Edited by pklemming on May 30, 2022 9:19PM
  • xXSilverDragonXx
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    EozZoe1989 wrote: »
    i was thinking because alot people on social media have been talking about having frineds on NA servers.. from EU..-and some people from NA wanting to play on EU because they have friends..
    the thing is thou people do do this.. streamers and more.. and it is a little laggy lol..
    but the thing is why not make it a one big server..
    one server for all.. na and eu combine ..
    people do have friends and streamers need this too,--meow

    There are times when the servers barely function now as is. I have seen 999+ spikes on and off today. It's not my end.
  • Ragnarok0130
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    I’d rather have it act like Overwatch does, choose which server (NA/EU) to log into and still have all of our stuff.
  • ForzaRammer
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    No thx, i don’t want to connect to a server 10000km away, it’s already stupid enough NA server is in texas, should be in kansas or missouri
  • Beilin_Balreis_Colcan
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    No thx, i don’t want to connect to a server 10000km away, it’s already stupid enough NA server is in texas, should be in kansas or missouri
    For me, both the EU and NA servers (I play on PC platform) are half the world away, so at least 15,000km. My ping averages about 400ms, although I can cut it down to about 320 with a carefully-chosen VPN connection. I envy those in the northern hemisphere, many of you don't realise how lucky you are by comparison.
    Edited by Beilin_Balreis_Colcan on June 1, 2022 8:47PM
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