I know I'm beating a dead horse but hip plates and crotch flaps need a hide option

Arthtur · February 2022

Soo many ppl want this and yet we get a Card Game... Sigh.

FaylenSol · February 2022

I don't mind the card game. If its implemented well it sounds fun.

But I don't think comparing a quality of life feature to a new game feature is fair. It would also likely be different parts of the developer team too.

Jaraal · February 2022

FaylenSol wrote: »

I don't mind the card game. If its implemented well it sounds fun.

But I don't think comparing a quality of life feature to a new game feature is fair. It would also likely be different parts of the developer team too.

I think they were referring to the fact that development time spent on a card game that isn't universally wanted could have been spent on design changes that ARE universally wanted.

I can't recall anyone over the years stating that they were in favor of floating hip pads, and very few who actually like crotch and butt flaps.

FaylenSol · March 2022

While the card game isn't universally wanted, there is no guarantee the developers working on it would have been on the team that could make any of the universally wanted features happen.

For example the amazing developers who work on sound effects, music, etc. don't work on player owned houses, furnishings, or outfit models (outside of the sound bits).

So complaining that the card game is a waste of developer time is a strange complaint to me since we don't even know who the developers working on it are and what they normally specialize in.

Arthtur · March 2022

Im not complaining about card game. Im complaining about how ZOS is answering to players. I play this game for 1.5 year so far and:
I saw maybe 2-3 times when ppl were asking for some mini-games in inns. And they are adding Card Game.
I see ppl complaining about "hip plates and crotch flaps" almost every week. And what we get? Nothing. Even this thread didnt get any answer from ZOS after 5 months. If we look at the new outfit style (Black Drake Clanwrap) we can see rly "nice" hip plates. Soo yeah im complaining.

Im not even gonna start talking about furnishing limits...

And this is more like System Update instead of QoL change.

I will see how "good" this Card Game will be when they add it. Doesnt change my opinion that there are a lot more popular additions to the game. But im not gonna call Card Game a waste of resources. At least They are doing something that somebody wants.

WraithShadow13 · March 2022

Yes AND please!

Jaraal · March 2022

FaylenSol wrote: »

While the card game isn't universally wanted, there is no guarantee the developers working on it would have been on the team that could make any of the universally wanted features happen.

For example the amazing developers who work on sound effects, music, etc. don't work on player owned houses, furnishings, or outfit models (outside of the sound bits).

So complaining that the card game is a waste of developer time is a strange complaint to me since we don't even know who the developers working on it are and what they normally specialize in.

To be fair, can anyone prove that each developer only works on one aspect of the game? It's not out of the realm of possibility that someone who creates crotch flaps for outfits also works on housing, or sound, or composing music.

FaylenSol · March 2022

That's the standard in game development. I can't prove ZOS sticks to the standard, but very rarely in game development does someone "Do it all." When they do they are usually someone like Andrew Gower from Runescape who helped create the game in their mom's basement with two other dudes.

When companies hire game developers they usually hire for specific positions like; game designer, game artist, sound engineer, game programmer, game level designer, game tester, game producer, etc.

Sometimes the positions vary from company to company and smaller development teams obviously have more shared responsibility (like old Minecraft before they got bought by Microsoft and expanded their team heavily).

Mythgard1967 · March 2022

There is a belt that will hide "knee pads" and a leg that will also hide "knee pads" when worn....so it seems theoretically possible.

Nord_Raseri · March 2022

Mythgard1967 wrote: »

There is a belt that will hide "knee pads" and a leg that will also hide "knee pads" when worn....so it seems theoretically possible.

Which belt and leg motifs do that?

Mythgard1967 · March 2022

Medium Fanged Worm belt and Silken Ring Medium and Heavy

Mythgard1967 · March 2022

WIth (left) and without (right) fanged worm belt below ... the existence of this would seem to suggest that there has been some work on customizable armor components??

morrowjen · March 2022

FaylenSol wrote: »

Torso pieces really need a hide "Crotch Flaps" and "Hip Plates" option. So many torso and legwear combinations clip due to hip plates or crotch flaps. That or the hip plates are floating.

That's it, that's the thread.

Would pay for this option. Seriously, so many great styles are ruined by them AND if you dual wield hip plates can cause clipping issues.

Shawn_PT · March 2022

Either that or... Maybe move them to the belt slot. No one cares about belt buckles since they're (usually) so small, but the pieces of waist armor should be tied to, you know, the belt/girdle.

Since that would mean editing every single model in the game right now, it's not going to happen.

kindred · March 2022

I hate the hip plates and they're on so many pieces. [snip]

[edited for profanity bypass]

SilverBride · March 2022

We have been begging for them to remove these since launch. Besides being completely hideous they make zero sense for light and medium armor.

aedra · March 2022

Is a slider to determine how close they are to the hips feasible? Anything to stop the floating look.

Would probably cause even more clipping issues I guess.

Jaraal · March 2022

aedra wrote: »

Is a slider to determine how close they are to the hips feasible? Anything to stop the floating look. Would probably cause even more clipping issues I guess.

As much as they are skimping on, deleting, and scavenging little bits of data because they are unable to get a grip on performance, I can't ever imagine them adding a hip pad distance calculation to the database.

FaylenSol · March 2022

Mythgard1967 wrote: »

WIth (left) and without (right) fanged worm belt below ... the existence of this would seem to suggest that there has been some work on customizable armor components??

This is sacred knowledge. If only the belts also did it with elbow pads. So many gloves are unusable due to floating elbow pads.

GrizzlyTank · May 2022

Why is it so difficult letting us hide more than helmets.

And pretty much stuck with Eveli's Leathers to avoid the most obnoxious traits of ESO armor.

Ermiq · May 2022

tripp wrote: »

I should be free to adventure wearing nothing but boots and trousers.

You are already free to do so. You don't need any armor piece at all for the overland content in the game. I play with nothing but a weapon, because it's my protest against very low difficulty in the overland, and you can play like this just to have fun if you wish.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ4dDa5TDQg&feature=emb_logo