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20 million players but friend list is still 100 :(

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It’s gotten to the point where it’s hard to remove friends to make room for new friends because all the people I have made friends with are active players who I can quest with or farm dungeons with.
  • LesserCircle
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    Yes, it should be doubled at least.
  • Sidonius
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    Are they all active friends?
  • Snamyap
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    And mine is empty. :p
  • Daoin
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    7 years and eight in mine.
  • Sidonius
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    Daoin wrote: »
    7 years and eight in mine.

    Me too, I cull the list every now and then, also after seven years you know the ones that come back after a six to twelve month break.
  • moleculardrugs
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    Sidonius wrote: »
    Are they all active friends?

    Yes, I’m lucky to have found them
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    You should devide that number by 6 to get an average number by server, cant have other server on eso friendlist as far as i know

    Not sure how pc and xbox work but for playstation the ingame friendlist is the psn friendlist, that mean all my psn friend are my eso friend, even if they dont play(those appear as not online) this in theory mean that the maximum eso friend is 2000 for psn according to a quick googe seach
    My guild leader does have the entire guild on his friend list
  • Vhozek
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    There's not 20 million players loool
    Once the Bethesda launcher goes down you'll get to see the real number on at least Steam and then maybe, just maybe, you can multiply it by 3 cause of consoles. I don't see the number going up more than 2-3k. Everyone on here always says most people use the Bethesda launcher anyways [snip]

    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Lunar on May 18, 2022 12:30PM
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  • Giraffon
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    It’s gotten to the point where it’s hard to remove friends to make room for new friends because all the people I have made friends with are active players who I can quest with or farm dungeons with.

    It needs to be at least doubled. It's basically your contacts list for other in game players that aren't in your guilds. I mentor new players and end up with a lot of friends. I also friend players that might be good for conducting trade with or that have demonstrated some exceptional trait whether that's just fun to be around or great in a fight.

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  • Doc45
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    I use guild rosters as my "friend list" and friend those I play with often and want to see when they log in/out. After 6 years of playing, I've gotten nowhere near the 100 cap. I think seeing 100 players sign in and out in chat would drive me bonkers.
  • DreamyLu
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    I don't use friend list for my friends. My friends are on discord. I also use the guild list for guildies and friends in the guild. I use the friend list for specific players that are neither friends nor guildies, but that I want to be able to contact easily.
    I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message... PC/NA
  • kargen27
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    There's not 20 million players loool
    Once the Bethesda launcher goes down you'll get to see the real number on at least Steam and then maybe, just maybe, you can multiply it by 3 cause of consoles. I don't see the number going up more than 2-3k. Everyone on here always says most people use the Bethesda launcher anyways [snip]

    The game had a lot of problems launching with Steam so many people jumped off their Steam account. When players thinking about getting the game asked about Steam they were warned not to go that route. I doubt Steam numbers are a good indication of actual total population.

    My friend list might be ten but if there is no impact on performance I see no reason not to increase the size allowed. I would like to have the option to turn friend notices off for specific friends though. A couple of people on my list does crafting on all 18 characters almost every day. Gets irritating seeing them log in and out of the game. Shutting that off for an hour would be a nice option to have.
    Edited by ZOS_Lunar on May 18, 2022 12:31PM
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    There's not 20 million players loool
    Once the Bethesda launcher goes down you'll get to see the real number on at least Steam and then maybe, just maybe, you can multiply it by 3 cause of consoles. I don't see the number going up more than 2-3k. Everyone on here always says most people use the Bethesda launcher anyways [snip]

    I tough i heard eso laucher wasnt affected?
    Edited by ZOS_Lunar on May 18, 2022 12:31PM
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    It’s gotten to the point where it’s hard to remove friends to make room for new friends because all the people I have made friends with are active players who I can quest with or farm dungeons with.

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  • FeedbackOnly
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    Sidonius wrote: »
    Are they all active friends?

    Yes for me
  • ArchMikem
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    I still have plenty of space in my list.
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    cause it's empty.
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  • RBAP28
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    I periodically check my friends list to see who still has me as a friend. If its been a while and the friend has removed me, I do the same.
  • fred4
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    There's not 20 million players loool
    Once the Bethesda launcher goes down you'll get to see the real number on at least Steam and then maybe, just maybe, you can multiply it by 3 cause of consoles. I don't see the number going up more than 2-3k. Everyone on here always says most people use the Bethesda launcher anyways [snip]
    I bought the game on Steam. I have 1000+ hours played since 2015, logging on most days. I use the launcher to update the game when needed, otherwise I run the eso64.exe directly. I usually do not have Steam running, because ESO is the only game I play these days. When I do run Steam occasionally, it says I have played 2 hours.
    Edited by ZOS_Lunar on May 18, 2022 12:32PM
  • fizl101
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    There's not 20 million players loool
    Once the Bethesda launcher goes down you'll get to see the real number on at least Steam and then maybe, just maybe, you can multiply it by 3 cause of consoles. I don't see the number going up more than 2-3k. Everyone on here always says most people use the Bethesda launcher anyways [snip]

    I tough i heard eso laucher wasnt affected?

    It isn't - the ESO launcher is different to the Bethesda launcher
    Edited by ZOS_Lunar on May 18, 2022 12:32PM
    Soupy twist
  • Dracane
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    20 million accounts created during lifetime* especially during free to play weekends*
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  • Kalik_Gold
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    Dracane wrote: »
    20 million accounts created during lifetime* especially during free to play weekends*

    I created:
    My account...
    My 3 son's accounts...
    10 accounts for guild invites...

    Sorry - Only 1 person is active for all of those
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    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)

    Leveling...
    Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
    Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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    **Imperial




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    I think eso's regular/loyal player base is more like 100-200k ppl per server, perhaps less.
    Hence the high prices for products.

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    RBAP28 wrote: »
    I periodically check my friends list to see who still has me as a friend. If its been a while and the friend has removed me, I do the same.

    When a player removes you as a friend it automatically removes them from your friends list as well.
    PCNA
  • Dracane
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    I think eso's regular/loyal player base is more like 100-200k ppl per server, perhaps less.
    Hence the high prices for products.

    That would be pretty good if that was true. I doubt ESO has anything close to 200k. I would doubt even 100k.
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

    My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos
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    Though it doesn't bother me if ESO increases the capacity of the friends list, I keep mine at precisely zero. Hmm, can I sell all my unused slots to other players?

    Seriously, I use my guild roster to see who is playing. I abhor seeing the login/logout traffic in the chat box caused by having entries in my friends list. I also do NOT want to advertise my login/logout activity. I have looked at/tried addons and playing off line but keeping my friends list at zero works best for me.
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  • Hapexamendios
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    I didn't know there was a limit.
  • Amottica
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    There's not 20 million players loool
    Once the Bethesda launcher goes down you'll get to see the real number on at least Steam and then maybe, just maybe, you can multiply it by 3 cause of consoles. I don't see the number going up more than 2-3k. Everyone on here always says most people use the Bethesda launcher anyways [snip]

    [edited for baiting]

    @Vhozek

    You are correct there are not 20 million active players and Zenimax has not claimed there were. That 20 million would be copies sold which effectively means there have been 20 million players in total over the life of this MMORPG.

    However, ESO does not use the Bethesda launcher so that change is irrelevant to ESO and Zenimax has even stated the ESO launcher is not going away.
  • DMuehlhausen
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    It’s gotten to the point where it’s hard to remove friends to make room for new friends because all the people I have made friends with are active players who I can quest with or farm dungeons with.

    Because you talk to and regularly group with all 100...I'm guessing some probably haven't even been on for years.
  • EozZoe1989
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    should be 500
  • FeedbackOnly
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    Dracane wrote: »
    20 million accounts created during lifetime* especially during free to play weekends*

    I don't think they count them
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