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My biggest gripe with companion leveling....
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Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It goes pretty fast and I do not see a reason to level up raport for a companion on more than one alt. Heck, I did not find raport to be that big of a deal. It was the actual leveling the companion since it only gains XP off kills.1 -
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Dragonlord573✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Dragonlord573 wrote: »Ishtarknows wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »My biggest issue is that companions, which are arguably aimed at a more casual audience, are ideally leveled up through insane amounts of mob grind. Quest xp doesn't apply. Daily random doesn't apply. Just go kill mobs for hours on end to level them. It seems like a missed opportunity to not allow at least questing xp to apply to companion level progress.
Cue the vets wanting to get companions done and dusted for achievements day 1 standing next to Rolis with XP pots and 400 master writs...
Aww come on, some of us 6 months later are still barely past 60% rapport because we work and have families and don't have 8 hours a day to grind this stuff out. This is ridiculous, I just maxed a new character in the past month BY DOING QUESTS ALONE on just a couple hours a day of playing, but Bastion who is getting the benefit of my reading every bookshelf and scrying for antiquities has barely touched 60% after 6 months. Something needs to be looked at here.
My Bastion, the only companion I use, is level 17 and is at like 55% rapport
it's frustrating cause I want to experience his quests but after how many months with next to no progress apart from levels I've lost nearly all my interest in the quests. Only reason I have left to want to see the quests is cause my friends told me they're good. Sure I'm not farming for his rapport, but you'd think after 17 levels he'd like me more. Like, could you imagine playing Dragon Age, get to the final act of the game and still be at 50% approval with your main companions?
Levels and Rapport are separate leveling systems for the most part. Do his Mage's guild dailies and you'll have his rapport maxed out pretty quick. I found his rapport much less grindy than his levels personally.
That wasn't really my point. My point was that after 6 months of organic gameplay I haven't gotten any rapport. If you knew someone for 6 months would you still consider them only an acquaintance? Seriously, we've done dungeons together, hunted many dragons together, and explored over half of tamriel and the realms beyond. And Bastion still thinks the same of me as he did when we met. I'm not someone who enjoys doing daily quests, so basically getting railroaded into delving into a random public dungeon I don't wanna do isn't usually on my daily to do list.
The tagline of ESO is play how you want. 'spose I can, it'll just take 3 years to get Bastion to consider me a friend.5 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭James-Wayne wrote: »Unfortunately companions are not for players that have been for 7+ years they are for newer players that have plenty of content to still do.
I know players who started when the game launched that have enjoyed the companions. Heck, they were at an advantage with all their alts since they would do the guild quest on multiple characters ahead of time and turn them in after getting the companions on those characters. That is a huge advantage over newer players like myself.2 -
EvilAutoTech✭✭✭✭✭
✭I didn't have a problem with rapport. I have maxed out rapport on Bastian and Mirri on several characters. My highest level companion is my NA Mirri. She's level 17.Edited by EvilAutoTech on January 31, 2022 1:33AM2 -
InaMoonlight wrote: »I've been done on the main for a while, but I actually appreciated having a valid reason to do those things again...
And to each there own, but and option could be capping rapport at (example) 200 per day BUT make 10 different things give it, so it still stays the same speed as now but gives different people with different preferences stuff they enjoy doing. I understand they want to tie it to lore, but as they created these companions they could just give them more likes, with so many repeatable quests, delves, etc. they could make some of them give more than 5 rapport except the 1 option.0 -
joerginger✭✭✭✭✭RicAlmighty wrote: »
It needs looking at. It's a whole 125 rapport points per day (per alt if you're keen) difference. I don't see why that should be so.
It's not really that because it works on some days and doesn't work on others.1 -
daim✭✭✭✭✭Leveling companions is so boring. I dont get it how people are able to grind them. Leveling alts on the other hand is fun.
Well you can just leave them out there and ignore them if you like. They will level. If you just let them tag along they won't be any more boring than if they were not there.
Rapport takes a bit more thought though.
And thats exactly what I have done, when I remember to summon one. Mirri is already lvl 12 I think!""I am that which grips the heart in fright, hearkens night and silences the light." It was written on my sword, long…long ago." ―Ajunta Pall
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Adzer2✭✭✭What they could do/could have done, is incentivise those Mages/Fighters/Undaunted guild dailies by changing the rewards, add transmute crystals, create new motifs for the 3 factions that drop from the dailies, maybe 3 new sets for eachEdited by Adzer2 on January 31, 2022 3:14PMPS4 - EU - DC
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InaMoonlight✭✭✭✭✭everseeing_njpreub18_ESO wrote: »InaMoonlight wrote: »I've been done on the main for a while, but I actually appreciated having a valid reason to do those things again...
And to each there own, but and option could be capping rapport at (example) 200 per day BUT make 10 different things give it, so it still stays the same speed as now but gives different people with different preferences stuff they enjoy doing. I understand they want to tie it to lore, but as they created these companions they could just give them more likes, with so many repeatable quests, delves, etc. they could make some of them give more than 5 rapport except the 1 option.
Think it's tied to their personalities, and also consideration for future companions and their quest-sets, I'm fairly sure in the future companions will need thieves guild rep, and then they ofc get a whole set of dailies like the other two... I think putting a max on rapport aside from the one there already is is a bad idea, leave a lil for those who's been wanting something to do for aaaaages...
I find it nice that I can pick up a couple handfuls of quests, and then level rapport on ALL of them in the same go, no choosing who gets it... And even if I don't like all of the quests, it's been good for me to do em anyway, forgot that the ashlander quests can give you a red furn- crystal with intense light worth over a quarter of a mil for example
I don't want it easier, I'd like the same *amount* of quests so the rapport is even across the board, but am loving the whole personality-tied thing giving me something to do, and pushing me a bit to the less lackadaisical side that I and many others, I assume, tend to get to when left with pretty much only daily writs for chores Edited by InaMoonlight on January 31, 2022 3:24PMEdit = Typos ... as usual. <;D0 -
RicAlmighty✭✭✭✭✭joerginger wrote: »RicAlmighty wrote: »
It needs looking at. It's a whole 125 rapport points per day (per alt if you're keen) difference. I don't see why that should be so.
It's not really that because it works on some days and doesn't work on others.
There's a cooldown, but I have never had it not work for Mirri. I did both dailies every day around the same time (evening) and I got the rapport points every single time. I think if you vary the times you do the quests you may overlap with the cooldown timer.
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✭✭✭✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »My biggest issue is that companions, which are arguably aimed at a more casual audience, are ideally leveled up through insane amounts of mob grind. Quest xp doesn't apply. Daily random doesn't apply. Just go kill mobs for hours on end to level them. It seems like a missed opportunity to not allow at least questing xp to apply to companion level progress.
Cue the vets wanting to get companions done and dusted for achievements day 1 standing next to Rolis with XP pots and 400 master writs...
Aww come on, some of us 6 months later are still barely past 60% rapport because we work and have families and don't have 8 hours a day to grind this stuff out. This is ridiculous, I just maxed a new character in the past month BY DOING QUESTS ALONE on just a couple hours a day of playing, but Bastion who is getting the benefit of my reading every bookshelf and scrying for antiquities has barely touched 60% after 6 months. Something needs to be looked at here.
Lol, I do have a lot of time to play and I still don’t have Bastion at level 20 yet. Getting the rapport up was a boring grind because of FG dailies, but the amount of mob grinding to get the ultimate far exceeds the time required for that.
I cringe at the thought of more companions.
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FluffWit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭My Bastiaon is like level 8 lol.
With Mirri soloing Drsgonstar was by far the best grind I found. I think one run with double buffs (it was during an CP event) got me all of levels 18 and 19 in a little over an hour. By comparison soloing a dungeon got me like 0.2 of a level1 -
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It's very odd because for no obvious plot reason it therefor takes twice as long to max out Bastian's rapport as it does Mirri's.RicAlmighty wrote: »Do the dailies that give 125pts (Mage's/Fighter's) and the other daily that gives 150 (Ashlander for Mirri, strangely none for Bastian).
It's a bit of a pain to be honest.
I hope the new companions are better balanced.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Eh. Like I said in that other thread, getting Mirri to full Rapport was easy. And I didn't even bother with Fighters/Mages guild dailies.
(Ashlanders, reading books, killing goblins, doing Antiquities...)
Meanwhile, I still haven't gotten her past lv15. I just don't grind mob xp.0 -
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I have Bastian at level 19 + 96%, but I also just realised recently that getting him to level 20 won't give me the ultimate skill I wanted him to use, because that skill line is still just over level 17. Levelling companions is so slow...katanagirl1 wrote: »Ishtarknows wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »My biggest issue is that companions, which are arguably aimed at a more casual audience, are ideally leveled up through insane amounts of mob grind. Quest xp doesn't apply. Daily random doesn't apply. Just go kill mobs for hours on end to level them. It seems like a missed opportunity to not allow at least questing xp to apply to companion level progress.
Cue the vets wanting to get companions done and dusted for achievements day 1 standing next to Rolis with XP pots and 400 master writs...
Aww come on, some of us 6 months later are still barely past 60% rapport because we work and have families and don't have 8 hours a day to grind this stuff out. This is ridiculous, I just maxed a new character in the past month BY DOING QUESTS ALONE on just a couple hours a day of playing, but Bastion who is getting the benefit of my reading every bookshelf and scrying for antiquities has barely touched 60% after 6 months. Something needs to be looked at here.
Lol, I do have a lot of time to play and I still don’t have Bastion at level 20 yet. Getting the rapport up was a boring grind because of FG dailies, but the amount of mob grinding to get the ultimate far exceeds the time required for that.
I cringe at the thought of more companions.PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 3900 -
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✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Eh. Like I said in that other thread, getting Mirri to full Rapport was easy. And I didn't even bother with Fighters/Mages guild dailies.
(Ashlanders, reading books, killing goblins, doing Antiquities...)
Meanwhile, I still haven't gotten her past lv15. I just don't grind mob xp.
Try to solo normal Dragonstar. It's pretty easy and she levels crazy fast in there.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agreed, the leveling of the companions is not fun. I really don't like the idea of trying to make us farm old content we've already farmed a million times. I know it's easy for them to put things in that force that, but it's not fun, doesn't feel new at all, and usually doesn't fit the reward (I haven't even finished leveling any of my companions b/c I find the system pretty lame and lacking).-- @xaraan --
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✭I enjoyed having a reason to go back and do old content I hadn't touched in years.0
