Why don't hunt dragons?

FeedbackOnly · May 2022

Why are dragons not as popular now?

proprio.meb16_ESO · May 2022

Havent seen a decrease on their popularity, are you referring to northern or southern elsweyr ones?

AvalonRanger · May 2022

Once I did solo dragon to test my tank skill. I could keep fighting
against dragon more than 1 hour....just time wasting only for junk reward.

Doing random normal dungeon is 10 times better than dragon.

BretonMage · May 2022

I thought they were one of the more popular DLC world events? I often see a bunch of players doing them.

Maitsukas · May 2022

It usually is affected by in-game events. If there is going to be another event for Season of the Dragon or Dark Heart of Skyrim (for Harrowstorms), then I'd see more people doing them.

MasterSpatula · May 2022

The only real reason I have to kill dragons is for Document Pouches with the chance to drop a Deadlands treasure map.

However, the game seems to sense whenever I'm killing dragons for pouches, because pouches disappear from the loot table whenever I'm farming for them.

So what's the point? Pouches are like a 40% drop rate until I'm actively looking for them at which point they go down to almost nothing, and then the odds of actually getting a map I want out of one are almost nonexistent. So again, what's the point?

ApoAlaia · May 2022

Dragons in S.Elsweyr are still 'a thing'.

I do them regularly on PC/EU.

N.Elsweyr is a bit more hit and miss because of how inconvenient some of the 'roosts' are but I still see them being fought while I am picking surveys or doing other stuff.

Personally I do it because rheum. Heroism pots are more viable than ever however buying the stuff isn't so farming it is.

phaneub17_ESO · May 2022

Just waiting on the next kill 30 dragons weekly endeavor.

redlink1979 · May 2022

After getting all the motif style pages from a daily quest, I stop running it.

xiphactinus · May 2022

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Why are dragons not as popular now?

Depends what server you are on, Eu xbox server almost dead for dragon hunting unless it's the Elsweyr event, Na xbox server pretty much always dragon hunting 24/7. I was surprised at how busy the Na server was and has made completing the dailies involving dragons so much easier in both regions.

AcadianPaladin · May 2022

If I can't solo something, I just pass it by unless I see a fight already in progress or a crowd waiting for a respawn. I can solo quite a few WBs but not a dragon so they go in the 'ignore' category.

Veinblood1965 · May 2022

Mainly because I am rarely in those zones unless due to an event. As far as I know there aren't any good PVP sets or skill lines to obtain worth farming for etc in those zones which is my main focus right now.

Ashryn · May 2022

PC NA is FILLED with people fighting dragons in Southern Elswehr...sometimes even in Northern. So many people during prime time that my game will often stutter and crash. They are quite popular during off-event times!

Freelancer_ESO · May 2022

At least on PC NA Southern Elsweyr Dragons are still going down fast in most of the times that I am online.

Southern Elsweyr likely gets a bit of an influx from people trying to get Dragonguard Operative.

I'd suggest the decrease at times might be due to the way Dragons don't seem to adjust to the number of players.

Killing Dragons can pay well if they die fast.

Killing Dragons generally pays poorly if they die slow.

Thus, the people that are present for a payoff may quit doing if the population drops much which can quickly depopulate an area.

BXR_Lonestar · May 2022

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Why are dragons not as popular now?

I can't verify that they're not as popular to kill now, but if people aren't hunting them as much, its probably because:

1. Hard to kill
2. Most people have the sets they drop
3. No other unique rewards to obtain from them

If they put highly sought-after leads for mythics on Dragons, I'm sure you'd instantly see a spike in their popularity. But right now, they're basically old/dated content with not enough rewards to incentivize people to gather big groups to kill them.

Perhaps they could implement loot on the level of arena weapons that can drop from dragons - and not make them a guaranteed drop so that there is an incentive to repeatedly kill the dragons to obtain the weapons. This would also be good for those players who don't venture into Arena's because of a lack of a group (I'm obviously excluding Maelstrom and Vateshran).

DMuehlhausen · May 2022

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Why are dragons not as popular now?

Because 99% of the playerbase at this point has played through the zones. When the events for the zones are up people are all over and the dragons are spawning all the time. Right now nobody, for the most part, are out in those zones.

Danikat · May 2022

I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's because I've killed them all multiple times and I'm not interested in repeating any part of any game over and over so I only do them when I need something from them or if I happen to be passing and see the fight in progress.

NettleCarrier · May 2022

Compared to any other activity, Dragons, Dolmens, Geysers, etc. etc. don't have any sort of payoff that I care about once I have the achievements for doing X number of them.

drsalvation · May 2022

I think they're too hard to be solo'd and since there's not always a group to do them with, people just pass on them.
Most of their mechanics are highly punishing even for tanks, and the time it takes to kill one is too long for only one player.

Honestly, I'm ok with that, instead of having to nerf them to the ground just like they did with dolmens and overland in general.
I just don't think there's good enough of an incentive to farm them considering the time it takes to kill one.

Tenthirty2 · May 2022

If anything I would say dragon hunting is more popular now than a couple months ago.
S. Elsweyr is still busy from what I've seen, usually a group of ppl running back and forth between sites.

N. Elsweyr is where I noticed a big uptick in popularity. My primary home is in Rimmen and I usually grab the dragon daily as part of my nightly routine.
Starting around 5-6p EST weekdays and on into the evening there are often dragons being pummeled.
Sometimes it may slow for an hour or so, maybe only ppl show up for the "lazy North" dragon when it lands near the WS lol.
Weekends are consistently busy from what I've seen, almost always ppl running dragons then

Jaraal · May 2022

I used to do them for the stained glass windows, but since you will be able to buy antiquities from a vendor in June, there’s no point now.

FlopsyPrince · May 2022

Dragons nuke attackers too quickly, though Harrowstorms are worse.

FeedbackOnly · May 2022

drsalvation wrote: »

I think they're too hard to be solo'd and since there's not always a group to do them with, people just pass on them.
Most of their mechanics are highly punishing even for tanks, and the time it takes to kill one is too long for only one player.

Honestly, I'm ok with that, instead of having to nerf them to the ground just like they did with dolmens and overland in general.
I just don't think there's good enough of an incentive to farm them considering the time it takes to kill one.

Would it help if it was easier to get a group for them?

Kalle_Demos · May 2022

Well, I don't hunt Dragons because in the context of this world they are people and targeting and hunting down any specific group is morally gross. I know that in Skyrim, Beth clumsily inserted a poorly written reason as to why hunting down a specific group of people 'in this case' is okay(It's never okay WTAF?!) but I just thought it was dumb. Skyrim, unfortunately, drove the series in a dumber direction on several different fronts IMO.

FlopsyPrince · May 2022

Kalle_Demos wrote: »

Well, I don't hunt Dragons because in the context of this world they are people and targeting and hunting down any specific group is morally gross. I know that in Skyrim, Beth clumsily inserted a poorly written reason as to why hunting down a specific group of people 'in this case' is okay(It's never okay WTAF?!) but I just thought it was dumb. Skyrim, unfortunately, drove the series in a dumber direction on several different fronts IMO.

Dragons are not "people". They don't even have human form in the areas we hunt them.

Austacker · May 2022

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Why are dragons not as popular now?

3 reasons

1 - They're in an older DLC zone and there's no event on atm
2 - Dragons require a larger group than a handful to successfully clear
3 - The rewards for taking one down quite frankly sucks and isn't worth the effort

Mayrael · May 2022

Austacker wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Why are dragons not as popular now?

3 reasons

1 - They're in an older DLC zone and there's no event on atm
2 - Dragons require a larger group than a handful to successfully clear
3 - The rewards for taking one down quite frankly sucks and isn't worth the effort

Mainly the reward to challenge ratio. If something is profitable, there will always be some portion of players willing to do it. Look at the dolmens in Alik'r - they bring a clear profit in the form of experience, and even though there's no event and it doesn't require a huge amount of players there are entire zergs running around.

Every activity in the game must be rewarding, the more difficult the content the greater the reward to make the effort and time spent worthwhile. Even if it's just a reward based on RNG but if it's valuable enough people will still try to get it.

Without incentive there will be no one to make content.

FeedbackOnly · May 2022

Mayrael wrote: »

Austacker wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Why are dragons not as popular now?

3 reasons

1 - They're in an older DLC zone and there's no event on atm
2 - Dragons require a larger group than a handful to successfully clear
3 - The rewards for taking one down quite frankly sucks and isn't worth the effort

Mainly the reward to challenge ratio. If something is profitable, there will always be some portion of players willing to do it. Look at the dolmens in Alik'r - they bring a clear profit in the form of experience, and even though there's no event and it doesn't require a huge amount of players there are entire zergs running around.

Every activity in the game must be rewarding, the more difficult the content the greater the reward to make the effort and time spent worthwhile. Even if it's just a reward based on RNG but if it's valuable enough people will still try to get it.

Without incentive there will be no one to make content.

Don't dragon fights reward a lot of XP?

Ilumia · May 2022

I'd like to kill more dragons in both n. And s. Elsweyr, so I can get the leads, there's often too few that join in.
Even when I ask in zone or start fighting on my own it's a long shot.

bmnoble · May 2022

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Austacker wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Why are dragons not as popular now?

3 reasons

1 - They're in an older DLC zone and there's no event on atm
2 - Dragons require a larger group than a handful to successfully clear
3 - The rewards for taking one down quite frankly sucks and isn't worth the effort

Mainly the reward to challenge ratio. If something is profitable, there will always be some portion of players willing to do it. Look at the dolmens in Alik'r - they bring a clear profit in the form of experience, and even though there's no event and it doesn't require a huge amount of players there are entire zergs running around.

Every activity in the game must be rewarding, the more difficult the content the greater the reward to make the effort and time spent worthwhile. Even if it's just a reward based on RNG but if it's valuable enough people will still try to get it.

Without incentive there will be no one to make content.

Don't dragon fights reward a lot of XP?

Think its about the same amount as doing a dolmen. Even when you get the stupidly big groups together during events to down Dragons fast, you still have a longer ride time and the group might kill the dragon while your still on the way.

I don't use the alchemy mats from them, and am not after any of the sets they drop, none of leads really interest me from them either so I rarely bother fighting dragons.

Kalle_Demos · May 2022

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Kalle_Demos wrote: »

Well, I don't hunt Dragons because in the context of this world they are people and targeting and hunting down any specific group is morally gross. I know that in Skyrim, Beth clumsily inserted a poorly written reason as to why hunting down a specific group of people 'in this case' is okay(It's never okay WTAF?!) but I just thought it was dumb. Skyrim, unfortunately, drove the series in a dumber direction on several different fronts IMO.

Dragons are not "people". They don't even have human form in the areas we hunt them.

Yes they are. They are sentients with equal/greater human/Elf intelligence. Their culture has shaped the world. They possess their own distinct language, art, architecture, religion, magic and more markers of a civilization more advanced than others at their apex. Many of these details existed in lore long before they were fleshed out in Skyrim.