I think it's related to sever hardware limitations 🤷‍♂️

SickDuck wrote: »

Any reason to get more character slots, besides when a new class is introduced?

New race? Also unlikely yes.

I think they associate perhaps character slots only with build and race and class and those almost pre-defined aspects of a character.

However character possibilities are as diverse as all of life itself no?

Whilst some may see new characters as a chore of some kind there are those of us who see them as infinite possibilities waiting to happen.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Ragnarok0130 wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Xinihp wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

If AWA showed us anything it's that there isn't all that much room in the current system set up to allow for new growth.

This is extremely disconcerting to me. I have heard people claim similar things on numerous occasions now: "ZOS can't add new animations because the game can't take it," "ZOS can't add new classes because consoles," "ZOS can't add this because that," "ZOS can't add new character slots because database is full."

I worry if there is any legitimate basis to this. Have they actually claimed this publically, or are people just speculating?

Because if they really can't add anything new to the game, I wonder what am I paying for, what am I investing in? I gladly put money into games I feel will bring me a return on that investment with new content. If what you and others are saying is basically "game's full" and they won't be adding anything, then it makes me think maybe it is time to move on.

That is honestly the definition of "maintenance mode" to me. Nothing new being added, for whatever reason, and just keeping things going with maybe a card game added every once in a while.

If that is really where we are then I am really saddened to hear it. I though for sure ESO would at least make it to 10 years before they just stopped adding anything new to the game.

I sincerely hope you are wrong or this is just speculation on your and others' part.

In an interview ZOS mentioned specifically that they had trouble bringing new player animations for player skills into the game because it didn't play nice with older console generations. They have said similar things about other functions as well. That said the same would apply to older pcs as well.

It makes me wonder when they'll finally end support for last generation consoles, half way through this generation, at the end of this gen, what the player count hits "X" number on last gen?

Both ff14 and dcuo ended ps3 support in 2017, about 4 year after the ps4 release and that one didnt have those shortage

Xinihp wrote: »

You get to sell more characters slots = MONEY.

Veteran players who love the game stay engaged = MONEY.

It really seems like a win-win and as I said AWA really should have removed a TON of redundancy from account database complexity.

It is so sad that we have to convince the devs for the simplest things by saying ''hey look, I will give you money for this''.

What would people do with more slots

newtinmpls wrote: »

I thought the point of AWA on top of armory was to encourage people to play one character multiple ways, which would inherently encourage peeps NOT to play multiple characters; possibly to reduce server strain.

That being said, I'm on board with these sentiments:

SantieClaws wrote: »

It's not about 'playing' them no.

They are different personalities you spend time with.

Not builds, not tasks, not farmers.

They are friends you take out for an adventure, bring along to a party or decorate a nice new house for.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Exactly! I like all my characters as people, as individuals, not as "alts" or "more storage".

Some of them like to do some things, some like to do others...hmmmm there is a song for that

https://youtu.be/OFzXaFbxDcM

I also like giving each something special. Each character used a unique mount type and personality. Also different hair

sinnereso wrote: »

I dot understand how anyone can actually play 18 toons!! You can barely do all the dailies on 1 so are we talking more alts just to better farm 1 specific thing repeatedly and log out?

Not about dailies. Or farming.

It’s about creating different characters with different classes & skills & playing the game through on them to get a different experience. It’s the RPG aspect of this game.

I thought the point of AWA on top of armory was to encourage people to play one character multiple ways, which would inherently encourage peeps NOT to play multiple characters; possibly to reduce server strain.

This is what I don’t understand.

You can only log in to one character at a time, so number of character slots should not have an effect on the server.

(Personally I think the ‘performance’ reason for AWA was thought up after the fact to excuse a badly-executed & rubbish implementation.)

And if it was a storage problem, then why can people make new accounts? With potentially 18 new characters.

So actually none of the explanations make sense.

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SantieClaws wrote: »

sinnereso wrote: »

I dot understand how anyone can actually play 18 toons!! You can barely do all the dailies on 1 so are we talking more alts just to better farm 1 specific thing repeatedly and log out?

It's not about 'playing' them no.

They are different personalities you spend time with.

Not builds, not tasks, not farmers.

They are friends you take out for an adventure, bring along to a party or decorate a nice new house for.

This is how I used to think about them... Until Update 33 when it became clear that this is not how the game was intended to be played. Characters are considerably more an aspect of the player than they used to be.

Now, I am finding it hard to understand why we need more than the base 8 or 9 character slots that come for free. Characters, now, are more "build options" and "storage mules" than anything else. For builds, 6 slots can cover the entire range of possible builds.

That said, I am on the fence with what I think they will do with additional character slots. AWA has been an exercise in reducing the per-character footprint that the database server has to maintain. Cold storage has been an exercising in reducing the number of characters that the database server has to maintain. It seems to me that the last couple of years have been occupied, in part, with coming up with ways to have fewer characters in the database, with less information stored about each character.

They just cleaned house... Why would they add more character slots, potentially reversing work they just finished completing?

On the other hand, very few people probably have 18 characters. They did just carve out room for people to have more of them, so why not use some of that new-found space and bump the limit in 2023? They can toss in a new class to justify it.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Yup. I just bought my 3rd account.

This is a fun game to play, but honestly, the studio does not exactly have the best reputation for being forthcoming with the players on plans, reasons, or even just communicating. I have seen them try, from time to time, but I think that ultimately it is too little, too late. This is why I stopped rewarding the studio with new game related purchases until they fix the game, and themselves.

Rasande_Robin wrote: »

I don't mind people who want more character slots to get them.

But then make every daily "thing" in the game account wide. It will make thoes with "force tendencies" don't feel like they are missing out because they don't have 17+ alts...

The value of the "dalies" wiĺl increase. The enjoyment of the game will increase, since we will feel less of a"must". The overall experience will increase, since we will actually have time to do the things we want to do.

There would be an uproar if they made all daily quest completion account wide. Yikes.
Plus, it would be against MMO…. Standards? They want us online as much as possible. Non-account wide dailies give some players a reason to stay logged in.

Anyway, I was doing my daily writs on my 18 characters today, and I thought about how I have purchased 2 race changes over the past few weeks, just so i could have “new” characters to play. Because I’m certainly not deleting characters I’ve put so much work into. (All professions maxed on all characters, etc).

Just give us a few more character slots already!

I am curious if one reason some players want more character slots is for additional storage.

For me I enjoy playing the game. Only have one account I pay and play on. Not going to start a second account since I have thousands of hours played on my account. Honestly don’t want to pay for a second crafting bag.

Have 18 characters and never deleted one and never will. All are leveled up and did the main quest and most DLC’s on them also. Spent to much time creating and making each different with play style/look and their own story/personality in my head. That’s why I want more slots. So, I can continue to enjoy the game, not do writs for gold. Play on console and know of no one that has multiple accounts for writ purposes.

Think most people who want more slots is not, so they do more writs but continue to enjoy playing the game they love. If it was all about writs, then most of those people already have a 2nd or 3rd account for that reason. It’s not about the digital gold on a screen that I want more slots for, it because I want to continue playing the game the way I want to. Which is keeping with their theme of play the way you want to play.

Stay safe

So many character ideas so little slots.

Rasande_Robin wrote: »

I don't mind people who want more character slots to get them.

But then make every daily "thing" in the game account wide. It will make thoes with "force tendencies" don't feel like they are missing out because they don't have 17+ alts...

The value of the "dalies" wiĺl increase. The enjoyment of the game will increase, since we will feel less of a"must". The overall experience will increase, since we will actually have time to do the things we want to do.

No. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. There is no ‘must’ dictated by the game, only by the player.

When you log in, you chose what you want to participate in at that time.