No, they are not. And let's be honest, buff uptimes and high APM does make us sweaty.

If anything, they listened to PTS feedback, seems like a good thing to me. 😃

I'm a good player and they are disrespecting me. Justice for good players!

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

No, you're reading in to it way too much. They're using the language we ourselves use in order to communicate their intentions.

What's APM? 🤨

Sweaty +120k players are a minority. The devs are using the community feedback slang who represent the majority of average players.

If I have a disability and I can not press 2 buttons at the exactly precise time, I can not perform a bunny-hop jumping reliably. It makes me less competitive in PvP. Will I also get some kind of macro mythic ?

Merforum wrote: »

It seems pretty obvious Oaken... ring is designed to help people with disabilities that physically cannot mash buttons fast and continuously.

Nothing against people with disabilities. It sucks for them, I get it. But accessibly & disability problems should be solved through using different controller types, different imputs, alternative UI settings (color blind mode or larger fonts for example) and other noninvasive methods.

It should never be done through actual in-game balance changes. It is a terrible idea & I am still surprised that they are even mentioning it in a dev comment under Oakensoul changes... Because it is not a rocket science to figure out that Oaken will be used by um... non-disable players too...

Dexter411 wrote: »

Aardappelboom wrote: »

No, they are not. And let's be honest, buff uptimes and high APM does make us sweaty.

If anything, they listened to PTS feedback, seems like a good thing to me. 😃

What feedback?
Templar feedback?
Nightblade being dead class feedback?
Warden's bear still has only one good morph feedback?
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They've done a few things this PTS based on feedback , DK nerf has happened and Oakensoul has been nerfed and now buffed, based on specific feedback. I'm a DK and the way they introduced and tweaked Oalensoul is a bit questionable but still, you gotta give credit to them for listening.

I don't expect them to do everything in one PTS cycle and it feels better than last PTS cycles.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree on that but just don't get too hung up on the sweaty comment, I'm sure they're joking. 😉

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I see it as a huge disrespect to players that rely on accessibility options. They are basically saying "if you want the game to be more accessible to you, you must buy our half-baked expansion at full retail price."

I was here when I called for sithis PTS nerf...I can't remember exactly what I said but it was something like this..

I think it had 10k defenses and a good amount of health.

"So sithis is better than a, 2 piece monster helm, a 5 piece set combined, and I don't even block in pvp at all...So zero mitigation means nothing. When a mythics is out performing a combo of sets, you have something that is considered OP."



Ok now, let's look at this mythics... remember the five piece set called Daedric Trickery which at most only puts 2 defensive buffs on? Remember spell powered cure, all those other 5 piece heavy sets which have one buff, etc. Look I am not going to look at the gamut of worthless sets that are about to be turned to trash used by the average pleb player like myself. I pvp in this game. I PLAY STAMPLAR!!

Major Berserk
Major
Major Courage
Major Brutality
Major Sorcery
Major Prophecy
Major Saveragy
Major Force
Major Protection
Major Resolve
Minor Fortitude
Mnor intellect
Minor endurance
Major Herorism.

As stamplar I've only relied on Jabs, light and a gap closer.

The rest of my space wen to Rally
Templar Circle (I don't need the stam for this mythic lol)
Fighters guild revealing light skill
Vigor (which is nothing lol)
Race against time ( I dont need it)


What I have on my offensive bar

Jabs,
execute,
rally (don't need it any more),
Honor the dead (just learned about this one as a stamplar wow),
Figthers Guild Revealing light (Don't need it anymore with this mythic)

So now I can clean that up with

Jabs
Execute
Light
Honor the dead (jsut started using this yesterday and I survive in pvp now)
(FLEX) let's go with race agaisnt time...or a gap closer. I really don't use gap closers anymore. or living dark

I am stamplar..I never used that costly lliving dark...also, I never used honor the dead...but

I'd rather pay for 1 honor the dead and crit heal, than to try and cleanse the debuffs on me and die anyways lol.

If you are a templar in pvp NEVER USE the cleanse...unless you have the mag pool to do so.

with all those buffs, you can invest in some live saving resources.

Trust me they'll blow their burst off and be empty ...that's when you attack. and they will cry to jabs XD. You have major herorism on 24/7 meaning you can put on a resto staff and live for life. at most you can live about probably 3 people blasting up on you. Depending on how good you are with the ulti recovery, you an use undo to get your resources back after standing there heavy attacking with resto ult as your ult will be filled soon anyways. Undo allows you to moev back from the area of attack.

I am not even a theory crafter..just an average joe...

I forgot to say this, every build I make on my weak redguard stamplar is usually far better on my DK and NB.

Devs need to be honest with us for once. We all know what this is. It's time for me to disappear for another 3 months again because I am not going to contribute into someone's fake power fantasy.

Such terms would be called baiting... just saying in regards to moderation this is a double standard.

Now in regards to that comment. As a great player, I am not offended in the slightest. I have high apm, and high buff times, along with higher reaction time.

ESO has a lot of people in 55 plus to even 70s playing. Then disabilities that limit gameplay. As such I am not bitter what this set turned into or is trying to do

Lastly I kinda think it's a typo... If it said sweat instead of sweaty then would come out differently

VaranisArano wrote: »

Dogvahkiin wrote: »

Merforum wrote: »

It seems pretty obvious Oaken... ring is designed to help people with disabilities that physically cannot mash buttons fast and continuously. I'm a bit astonished that anyone could take that as an attack on them. Especially since it will be available to everyone. Luckily they are making it NOT powerful enough to be abused but good enough to help disabled. Glad to see some good comments here.

With this item a lazy 1-bar build can easily outdamage his 2-bar counterpart - maybe not on trial dummy, but in actual content.
The Job of the DD in content is to do dps whilst there are mechanics, movement (and lag…). This ring makes this job tremendous easier. Always. Everywhere. For bad AND for good players.
With this item there will be simply no reason to play a complex 2-bar-Necro-Dot-rota any more (for example). In actual content this Item will always outdamage such a 2-bar build … whilst only managing half the abilities, uptime and APM in “lazy mode”. Its trivializing the game – and that’s not a good thing in a combat heavy, fast-paced game.

Second, this item favors heavily a few classes – those with strong self-healing and good class-spammables (e.g. Templer and Sorcs – already the most easy classes).

Third. Build diversity. This item dumps it down even further – No room for frontbar Arena-Weapons so – Bahsei/Relequen + Tzogvin. Wow. New Meta created -.-

The trivializing of the combat-related endgame will destroy the endgame community even further – nothing to work on, no skill required. Not fun.


And I don’t get the whole “accessibility” arguments.
Why the heck should everyone participate in trifectas?! I could understand this, if there were content you couldn’t participate - but with the existent difficulty selections (normal, vet, vet-HM) there are already options for everyone. All sets and gear is accessible on normal. There is a difficulty scaling for a reason.
It’s ok and healthy for the game that there is content (remember: only achievments!) with such a high difficulty only few can reach.

And I say this as an “endgame-Raider” in a very likeable progressive-trial-guild with lots of elderly people who struggle to dps – but worked really really hard to get better and we achieved a lot together. And yep, this will be trivialized too. Very unhealthy item in my opinion.

"Accessibility" in this context does not mean "I can't play Vet HM trials or get trifecta achievements."

It means something like "If I do the traditional two-bar rotation with light attack weaving, my hands hurt a lot."

One-bar builds have long been used by players who have physical reasons for not being able to play the traditional way ESO expects players to be able to fight, i.e. two bars, swapping, and high APM. Those one bar build options were pretty limited, so this opens up a variety of options for those players.

It's about making ESO's combat physically accessible to players who struggle with the bar-swapping high APM design, not about giving them a ticket to end-game achievements and scorepushing.

Deltia has a mouse that has numbers on the side of it. I don't know what brand that is, or what. but if you are on PC all you have to do is map those buttons and use your thumb for the barsawps and skill usage. Unless I am missing something here.

Introducing a broken set that will destroy pvp is not the answer. Here's accesibility for you I remapped my swap button to "F"

Break Free is spacebar...
Roll dodge is the left and right mouse button click together.

Look they can send this broken monster into the game..but know when they decide to nerf it 3 months later, they are going to *** off a lot of people.

I have no idea what a "sweaty buff uptime" is.

DragonRacer wrote: »

I live in Florida. If I took offense at being called sweaty, I'd have a pretty hard time. LOL

Are you sweaty and buff though?