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"Exploitation" Sorc Passive - no stam support?

DragonfuryMC
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With the hybridization changes, shouldn't this passive also provide minor savagery to put it in line with the other mag/stam support for a class? Rather than keeping it magicka only for sorcerers?
  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    It's the same thing as every other of the main 4 classes. Nightblades have weapon crit, Sorcereers have spell critical, templar have spell damage, dragonknights have weapon damage. It's 'supposed to retain a reason to bring that class in a group, depending on desired group buffs'.

    These remained untouched for now until they decide how/if they will make adjustments later on.
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  • Hescrow
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    I created same topic for update 33 lol.
    They should do hybridation and just add with it another unique buff for each class.
  • MashmalloMan
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    Same thought and complaints with U34, but they did say "for now" in Update 33 so theres hope. It looks like we will be waiting at least another patch, aka Fall 2022.

    I understand why it may take awhile.
    1. They need to keep the 4 minor buffs unique from one another instead of DK=Templar and Sorc=NB
    2. They plan to combine spell and weapon crit into crit.
    3. They plan to combine spell and weapon damage into damage.
    4. They would need to completely redesign magical and physical damage jewelry enchants so you don't have 2 recipes creating the same outcome. Eg. something like Damage and Penetration.
    5. They would need to redesign Mundus stones so there was a new effect instead of 2x damage mundus options. Eg. Maybe we could see a damage done or HP Regen option?
    6. They need to rethink potions and poisons. Do they allow pots to be spell/weapon damage + spell/weapon crit + stam and spell/weaponm damage + spell/weapon crit + mag despite having different ingredient pro's and con's, making a complete mess of the system.

    Similar process happened with Breach and Fracture when Ward and Resolve combined. They said they planned to combine Breach in the future. It took about 4 updates (a year) before they actually got around to it. Reason that took awhile was a similar problem. Many morphs of skills had Breach or Fracture as options, it's why Warden's Shalks now gives Major Breach (both pen) but stam was changed to no Breach and a double cast.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on April 24, 2022 1:41PM
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  • Aznox
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    With the hybridization changes, shouldn't this passive also provide minor savagery to put it in line with the other mag/stam support for a class? Rather than keeping it magicka only for sorcerers?

    Your stamina abilities already benefit from Minor Prophecy if it brings your Spell Critical above your Weapon Critical.
    Edited by Aznox on April 27, 2022 4:04PM
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  • DragonfuryMC
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    Aznox wrote: »
    With the hybridization changes, shouldn't this passive also provide minor savagery to put it in line with the other mag/stam support for a class? Rather than keeping it magicka only for sorcerers?

    Your stamina abilities already benefit from Minor Prophecy if it brings your Spell Critical above your Weapon Critical.

    I thought this was only the case for weapon/spell damage? Where did they mention this in the previous patch notes for crit?
  • Mr_Stach
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    While we're barking up Passives Piercing Cold should drop Magic Damage and Add Bleed Damage since Warden is getting a bunch of Bleed Stuff recently.
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  • Aznox
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    Aznox wrote: »
    With the hybridization changes, shouldn't this passive also provide minor savagery to put it in line with the other mag/stam support for a class? Rather than keeping it magicka only for sorcerers?

    Your stamina abilities already benefit from Minor Prophecy if it brings your Spell Critical above your Weapon Critical.

    I thought this was only the case for weapon/spell damage? Where did they mention this in the previous patch notes for crit?

    You can test easily on PC with CMX, just hit a dummy for 2min with stamina abilities at base crit, then do it again with prophecy.
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