DLC dungeons are perhaps the best content. I also do not understand why people hate them so much here on the forum. In myself, I rarely meet people who would be so negative about dlc dungeons.

They are definitely fun. And going into a dungeon where pretty much every boss will give you something for your sticker book is nice too...

I agree they are fun

The mechanics are not overtly complex but most of them require coordination and that along with weak dps will make or break your experience.

Between the high chance of random players in the dungeon finder queue being under prepared for the content, and being unable or unwilling to learn any fight that's more complex than just 'keep attacking boss,' it can turn any dlc dungeon into a nightmare.

Yeah it's not fear... it's dread. Landing on a dlc, even on normal is likely to be a miserable experience when pugging. *in my experience*

Which is a shame because dlcs are all I want to do now to collect gear.

I think the recent DLC's have been really well designed. They are achievable with lower dps groups who follow mechanics and they have sources of buffs available from secret bosses to help such groups and under-geared groups to be viable, if they follow said mechanics.

There are fewer one shots and they make support roles great .... well at least *needed*...again. This is an improvement after a couple of years of stacking and burning tactics being the most efficient for higher dps groups to complete harder content , unavoidable boss one-shot mechanics making support roles largely un-needed by high end players while also being irrelevant to helping low dps groups complete that content. *

Now the game 'lifts the floor' in this content to allow completion by players who pay attention by boosting their dps and self heals, while still allowing quick runs ignoring said secret boss buffs by those who don't need the boost. I see this as a great solution for the competing 'needs' at play in group content. (Thinking Red Petal, or Dread Cellar, here.)

Also the design overtly teaches the necessary counters with good visual queues and the NPC's telling you exactly what to do. All of the mechanics and said counters are later encountered in the trials that were released with that DLC. I think ZoS took on board a lot of the feedback about dungeons not actually teaching players mechanics they must master to complete Vet and have made much more effort to do so. I appreciate this.

*(I am ignoring other factors like big self heals, mythics, and the massive damage creep for high damage players that contributed to the 4 dps being most viable. I think the current dungeon design is an attempt to counter the unintended consequences in group play of some of those changes where the player performance/completion gap had grown too wide.)

endgamesmug wrote: »

I realise people have alot of fear around these things, but i always get excited when it comes up on random. Some more runs to familiarise myself with mechanics , get better at running and fill the collection book its a win win i reckon! It has its hazards in random who you get paired with, but its just quick adaptation and problem solving on the fly i like that. Im a bit more mindful of my rushing through of late as i was kicked from a couple of dungeons for doing so. So i find myself gauging what each group i get put with is about and act accordingly.im not exactly desperate for the transmutes of late anyway just enjoy running the content and its all practice at the end of the day. Im not a super duper dps/tank/healer but i hold my own in dlc vet and vet base, vet trials are just not made for me but i still really enjoy the content i can do in this game.

And yet the majority of the player base would do anything to skip them if they can and stick to base dungeons.