Crafting Surveys -Quality of Life

spartaxoxo · October 2020

SilverBride wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

What you're describing isn't even enjoying the survey itself but the stuff nearby. Which you could do without a survey as they are unrelated.

You can't tell someone else what they enjoy. I know that I actually enjoy traveling to the survey site and gathering the mats they provide. It's rewarding to accomplish that.

I did not. They said they enjoyed the gameplay in between doing the surveys. Which is in fact, not the survey itself. That's an observation on the statement they made, not telling them what to like. If you enjoy grabbing the mats, that's nice for you.

Doesn't change that enjoying a quest near the survey is not the same thing as enjoying the survey itself

spartaxoxo · October 2020

tmbrinks wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

Anony_Mouse wrote: »

I will just put this out there

I would pay a decent amount of crowns for an Assistant who could be sent to collect all my Crafting Surveys (Alchemy, Enchanting, Woodworking etc). Let us buy an assistant who can be sent out once a week or once a month to collect all our gathered Crafting Surveys and bring back the materials a day or so later.

So much time is taken up by collecting the surveys, it is just not an enjoyable use of time (for some). While some would prefer spending their time doing Trials, House Decorations, PvP, what have you, the surveys end up piling up. I don't want to spend hours upon hours running around different maps to collect the crafting mats. I have already completed 90% of the maps in the game.. Let me spend the time how I like, while I can still get the crafting mats which I have earned from doing Writs, and which I need the mats from to do crafting on gear for my adventures.

Pretty please?

Someone posted a month or so back that it would be nice to be able to assign your surveys to your hirelings instead of having them give you random stuff, and I think that would be a great idea. It would be an option available to anyone with the skill points to invest in hirelings and it would help slow the rate at which you accumulate surveys by a lot.

Sometimes I don't mind doing my surveys, but other times, I look in my inventory and see 40-50 of them and I just want to log off.

What would happen if you slow the rate at which you accumulate surveys by actually doing fewer writ dailies, @BXR_Lonestar?

That way, you're not looking at 40-50 at a time ...

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »

If you don't want to use a survey assistant, or just enjoy collecting them yourself, the solution is simple.... don't use the assistant. No one is asking for a cheat code, and some of us are suggesting it have a drawback. Some people just don't want others to have nice things.

It's not that at all. For me it's more about not automating everything to the point that no one has to do anything to earn anything any more. Time and money sinks are not a bad thing. They keep people motivated to log on and accomplish things.

Surveys don't have any actual gameplay. The vast majority of time doing multiple surveys is actually just loading screens. Seems like a perfect task for automation to me.

So, there's no gameplay between the zone's wayshrine and the survey site itself?

For me, it's a chance to collect a few more mats, continuing to level skills, pick up mages guild skill books, and start or finish a quest.

You think it's a "tedious chore" ... I think it's an opportunity.

There is gameplay near the surveys, but the surveys themselves are not actual gameplay. They are designed to be tedious chores so that a lot of people will hate doing them, limiting the number of surveys that get accomplished. What you're describing isn't even enjoying the survey itself but the stuff nearby. Which you could do without a survey as they are unrelated.

So, the people who farm materials to make their gold in the game aren't participating in "actual gameplay"? Because surveys are certainly a huge part of somebody who does writs and material collection and the way they make gold in this game.

Just because it's not your preferred style doesn't mean the game has to adapt to you.

The surveys is different for actual mat gathering as that's a game of hide and seek. It's different from going to a predetermined spot and pressing X. There's genuinely no game to that. If you enjoy that, that's great. Lots of people genuinely enjoy chores, even irl. I have a friend that loves washing dishes and views it as meditation, but nobody would say washing dishes is a game...

The things that make it gamified aren't present with a survey for most people. I suppose some people refuse to use websites or addons to find them, and also refuse to memorize the location so they can game-ify the task. In such cases, that's gameplay.

But for vast majority of people they are told exactly where to go and there's no challenges on what to do, which eliminates any gameplay involved. It's genuinely a task, not a game.

SilverBride · October 2020

spartaxoxo wrote: »

The things that make it gamified aren't present with a survey for most people. I suppose some people refuse to use websites or addons to find them, and also refuse to memorize the location so they can game-ify the task. In such cases, that's gameplay.

But for vast majority of people they are told exactly where to go and there's no challenges on what to do, which eliminates any gameplay involved. It's genuinely a task, not a game.

Everything we do in the game is gameplay. All of it.

You may consider combat and dungeons as real gameplay, but the chores and tasks are all gameplay as much as doing dishes is part of real life.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2020

After reading the developments of this thread, seems the best solution is to make the tradeable and let the economy sort itself out. For the, "you need to put in the work" crowd, well, the price would certainly reflect a discount for the time you need to spend (that's how the free market works). For the, "I can't be bothered with surveys any longer", it gives them a discounted way to get rid of them.

spartaxoxo · October 2020

SilverBride wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

The things that make it gamified aren't present with a survey for most people. I suppose some people refuse to use websites or addons to find them, and also refuse to memorize the location so they can game-ify the task. In such cases, that's gameplay.

But for vast majority of people they are told exactly where to go and there's no challenges on what to do, which eliminates any gameplay involved. It's genuinely a task, not a game.

Everything we do in the game is gameplay. All of it.

You may consider combat and dungeons as real gameplay, but the chores and tasks are all gameplay as much as doing dishes is part of real life.

In the sense that you're running the game? Sure. In the sense that every task is gamified? No. Not everything is designed to be as such, and that's okay.

SilverBride · October 2020

spartaxoxo wrote: »

In the sense that you're running the game? Sure. In the sense that every task is gamified? No. Not everything is designed to be as such, and that's okay.

What you are describing is your own perception of what counts as gameplay. If you choose not to think of surveys as gameplay, that is up to you. But for many of us surveys are gameplay, and our perception is just as valid as yours.

spartaxoxo · October 2020

SilverBride wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

In the sense that you're running the game? Sure. In the sense that every task is gamified? No. Not everything is designed to be as such, and that's okay.

What you are describing is your own perception of what counts as gameplay. If you choose not to think of surveys as gameplay, that is up to you. But for many of us surveys are gameplay, and our perception is just as valid as yours.

You're not really stating a reason why you think it's gameplay though. Like do you view spending champion points as gameplay? Sitting in a house or bar and enjoying music? Chatting in guild? Do you feel like there is literally zero difference between all the different tasks that you do? It's kinda odd that you're adamant it's gotta be gameplay and not just a task, but haven't really proferred any defintion for it if your own.

SilverBride · October 2020

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

In the sense that you're running the game? Sure. In the sense that every task is gamified? No. Not everything is designed to be as such, and that's okay.

What you are describing is your own perception of what counts as gameplay. If you choose not to think of surveys as gameplay, that is up to you. But for many of us surveys are gameplay, and our perception is just as valid as yours.

You're not really stating a reason why you think it's gameplay though. Like do you view spending champion points as gameplay? Sitting in a house or bar and enjoying music? Chatting in guild? Do you feel like there is literally zero difference between all the different tasks that you do? It's kinda odd that you're adamant it's gotta be gameplay and not just a task, but haven't really proferred any defintion for it if your own.

Yes, actually I do. I often chat with friends as I am doing writs or questing, and I sometimes just hang around one of my homes with friends, or go visit theirs. I consider this gameplay because it is my character, not me, in a game environment, doing things possible to do in the game. (I'd like to clarify though that I am talking to the player, not the character, when chatting. But I still see it as part of the game that we are able to do so.)

I don't think either of us is wrong or right, here. We just have different perceptions about the game, and need to take the other's perceptions into account in our discussions.

spartaxoxo · October 2020

SilverBride wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

In the sense that you're running the game? Sure. In the sense that every task is gamified? No. Not everything is designed to be as such, and that's okay.

What you are describing is your own perception of what counts as gameplay. If you choose not to think of surveys as gameplay, that is up to you. But for many of us surveys are gameplay, and our perception is just as valid as yours.

You're not really stating a reason why you think it's gameplay though. Like do you view spending champion points as gameplay? Sitting in a house or bar and enjoying music? Chatting in guild? Do you feel like there is literally zero difference between all the different tasks that you do? It's kinda odd that you're adamant it's gotta be gameplay and not just a task, but haven't really proferred any defintion for it if your own.

Yes, actually I do. I often chat with friends as I am doing writs or questing, and I sometimes just hang around one of my homes with friends, or go visit theirs. I consider this gameplay because it is my character, not me, in a game environment, doing things possible to do in the game. (I'd like to clarify though that I am talking to the player, not the character, when chatting. But I still see it as part of the game that we are able to do so.)

I don't think either of us is wrong or right, here. We just have different perceptions about the game, and need to take the other's perceptions into account in our discussions.

I personally don't really find that a very helpful way to look at things. If literally everything is gameplay then there is really no way to discuss the various categories of things that we do. To me, it's important to discuss these different elements so that we can discuss improvements to these systems in ways that are in-line with how people actually perform these various things. To me there is gameplay, gameplay enhancing tasks, menu screens and user interfaces, etc.

I can understand why you feel the way that you do, though and thanks for sharing your information. I think it's better that we just agree to disagree though, as I don't think it's possible to have a productive discussion under your idea of what constitutes a game, for me personally.

AlnilamE · October 2020

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

In the sense that you're running the game? Sure. In the sense that every task is gamified? No. Not everything is designed to be as such, and that's okay.

What you are describing is your own perception of what counts as gameplay. If you choose not to think of surveys as gameplay, that is up to you. But for many of us surveys are gameplay, and our perception is just as valid as yours.

You're not really stating a reason why you think it's gameplay though. Like do you view spending champion points as gameplay? Sitting in a house or bar and enjoying music? Chatting in guild? Do you feel like there is literally zero difference between all the different tasks that you do? It's kinda odd that you're adamant it's gotta be gameplay and not just a task, but haven't really proferred any defintion for it if your own.

I mean, which one of those is not gameplay to you?

You find surveys tedious. I find running dungeons on repeat to farm gear tedious. Both of those are gameplay.

The solution is to adjust the amount of writs you do to the level of surveys you are willing to do.

I only do writs on 1.5 out of 11 characters outside of the Jubilee event.

I also choose to run dungeons for reasons other than farming gear and just wait for the gear to finally drop.

Mik195 · October 2020

I just wish they were added to the map. On console memorizing all of them is annoying and I hate wandering around. The Rift clothing one is by that house with the not exactly dead mage by the guys playing with corpses. Still takes me forever to remember where it is.

SilverBride · October 2020

Mik195 wrote: »

I just wish they were added to the map. On console memorizing all of them is annoying and I hate wandering around. The Rift clothing one is by that house with the not exactly dead mage by the guys playing with corpses. Still takes me forever to remember where it is.

They aren't on the map on console? Because they are for me on PC.

Calm_Fury · October 2020

SilverBride wrote: »

Mik195 wrote: »

I just wish they were added to the map. On console memorizing all of them is annoying and I hate wandering around. The Rift clothing one is by that house with the not exactly dead mage by the guys playing with corpses. Still takes me forever to remember where it is.

They aren't on the map on console? Because they are for me on PC.

Nope. You probably have Lost Treasure add-on.

On console doing those surveys is 10x the headache since the loading times for switching zones are 2-3x the PC and you have to check the map to see exactly where it is. Extremely annoying.

spartaxoxo · October 2020

Mik195 wrote: »

I just wish they were added to the map. On console memorizing all of them is annoying and I hate wandering around. The Rift clothing one is by that house with the not exactly dead mage by the guys playing with corpses. Still takes me forever to remember where it is.

Yeah. I just use the websites but it's still annoying because those are seldom exact and seldom have the marker in a spot zoomed in enough to get a precise idea. It's usually close enough It's not work to find but it just really adds to the tedium

SilverBride · October 2020

Calm_Fury wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Mik195 wrote: »

I just wish they were added to the map. On console memorizing all of them is annoying and I hate wandering around. The Rift clothing one is by that house with the not exactly dead mage by the guys playing with corpses. Still takes me forever to remember where it is.

They aren't on the map on console? Because they are for me on PC.

Nope. You probably have Lost Treasure add-on.

I don't. It's just a filter on the default map. I believe it's the one that shows treasure map locations that makes the surveys show up, too.

tmbrinks · October 2020

SilverBride wrote: »

Calm_Fury wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Mik195 wrote: »

I just wish they were added to the map. On console memorizing all of them is annoying and I hate wandering around. The Rift clothing one is by that house with the not exactly dead mage by the guys playing with corpses. Still takes me forever to remember where it is.

They aren't on the map on console? Because they are for me on PC.

Nope. You probably have Lost Treasure add-on.

I don't. It's just a filter on the default map. I believe it's the one that shows treasure map locations that makes the surveys show up, too.

They are not in the default game... Might be the Map Pins add-on instead

SilverBride · October 2020

tmbrinks wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Calm_Fury wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Mik195 wrote: »

I just wish they were added to the map. On console memorizing all of them is annoying and I hate wandering around. The Rift clothing one is by that house with the not exactly dead mage by the guys playing with corpses. Still takes me forever to remember where it is.

They aren't on the map on console? Because they are for me on PC.

Nope. You probably have Lost Treasure add-on.

I don't. It's just a filter on the default map. I believe it's the one that shows treasure map locations that makes the surveys show up, too.

They are not in the default game... Might be the Map Pins add-on instead

Ohhh yes I do have that, but thought it was only for my minimap. If I had to just find all the survey sites I wouldn't want to do them, either.

idk · October 2020

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

Anony_Mouse wrote: »

I will just put this out there

I would pay a decent amount of crowns for an Assistant who could be sent to collect all my Crafting Surveys (Alchemy, Enchanting, Woodworking etc). Let us buy an assistant who can be sent out once a week or once a month to collect all our gathered Crafting Surveys and bring back the materials a day or so later.

So much time is taken up by collecting the surveys, it is just not an enjoyable use of time (for some). While some would prefer spending their time doing Trials, House Decorations, PvP, what have you, the surveys end up piling up. I don't want to spend hours upon hours running around different maps to collect the crafting mats. I have already completed 90% of the maps in the game.. Let me spend the time how I like, while I can still get the crafting mats which I have earned from doing Writs, and which I need the mats from to do crafting on gear for my adventures.

Pretty please?

Someone posted a month or so back that it would be nice to be able to assign your surveys to your hirelings instead of having them give you random stuff, and I think that would be a great idea. It would be an option available to anyone with the skill points to invest in hirelings and it would help slow the rate at which you accumulate surveys by a lot.

Sometimes I don't mind doing my surveys, but other times, I look in my inventory and see 40-50 of them and I just want to log off.

What would happen if you slow the rate at which you accumulate surveys by actually doing fewer writ dailies, @BXR_Lonestar?

That way, you're not looking at 40-50 at a time ...

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »

If you don't want to use a survey assistant, or just enjoy collecting them yourself, the solution is simple.... don't use the assistant. No one is asking for a cheat code, and some of us are suggesting it have a drawback. Some people just don't want others to have nice things.

It's not that at all. For me it's more about not automating everything to the point that no one has to do anything to earn anything any more. Time and money sinks are not a bad thing. They keep people motivated to log on and accomplish things.

Surveys don't have any actual gameplay. The vast majority of time doing multiple surveys is actually just loading screens. Seems like a perfect task for automation to me.

So, there's no gameplay between the zone's wayshrine and the survey site itself?

For me, it's a chance to collect a few more mats, continuing to level skills, pick up mages guild skill books, and start or finish a quest.

You think it's a "tedious chore" ... I think it's an opportunity.

There is gameplay near the surveys, but the surveys themselves are not actual gameplay. They are designed to be tedious chores so that a lot of people will hate doing them, limiting the number of surveys that get accomplished. What you're describing isn't even enjoying the survey itself but the stuff nearby. Which you could do without a survey as they are unrelated.

There is a lot of room for disagreement on this. Technically, and literally, anything we can do in the game is gameplay by definition. What one person enjoys will differ from what other people enjoy. While you may not consider it gameplay it is, in fact, gameplay.

More importantly, writs and surveys are valuable. As such they should require some effort and in the case of surveys, time is the only effort that can be placed upon them.

spartaxoxo · October 2020

idk wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

Anony_Mouse wrote: »

I will just put this out there

I would pay a decent amount of crowns for an Assistant who could be sent to collect all my Crafting Surveys (Alchemy, Enchanting, Woodworking etc). Let us buy an assistant who can be sent out once a week or once a month to collect all our gathered Crafting Surveys and bring back the materials a day or so later.

So much time is taken up by collecting the surveys, it is just not an enjoyable use of time (for some). While some would prefer spending their time doing Trials, House Decorations, PvP, what have you, the surveys end up piling up. I don't want to spend hours upon hours running around different maps to collect the crafting mats. I have already completed 90% of the maps in the game.. Let me spend the time how I like, while I can still get the crafting mats which I have earned from doing Writs, and which I need the mats from to do crafting on gear for my adventures.

Pretty please?

Someone posted a month or so back that it would be nice to be able to assign your surveys to your hirelings instead of having them give you random stuff, and I think that would be a great idea. It would be an option available to anyone with the skill points to invest in hirelings and it would help slow the rate at which you accumulate surveys by a lot.

Sometimes I don't mind doing my surveys, but other times, I look in my inventory and see 40-50 of them and I just want to log off.

What would happen if you slow the rate at which you accumulate surveys by actually doing fewer writ dailies, @BXR_Lonestar?

That way, you're not looking at 40-50 at a time ...

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »

If you don't want to use a survey assistant, or just enjoy collecting them yourself, the solution is simple.... don't use the assistant. No one is asking for a cheat code, and some of us are suggesting it have a drawback. Some people just don't want others to have nice things.

It's not that at all. For me it's more about not automating everything to the point that no one has to do anything to earn anything any more. Time and money sinks are not a bad thing. They keep people motivated to log on and accomplish things.

Surveys don't have any actual gameplay. The vast majority of time doing multiple surveys is actually just loading screens. Seems like a perfect task for automation to me.

So, there's no gameplay between the zone's wayshrine and the survey site itself?

For me, it's a chance to collect a few more mats, continuing to level skills, pick up mages guild skill books, and start or finish a quest.

You think it's a "tedious chore" ... I think it's an opportunity.

There is gameplay near the surveys, but the surveys themselves are not actual gameplay. They are designed to be tedious chores so that a lot of people will hate doing them, limiting the number of surveys that get accomplished. What you're describing isn't even enjoying the survey itself but the stuff nearby. Which you could do without a survey as they are unrelated.

There is a lot of room for disagreement on this. Technically, and literally, anything we can do in the game is gameplay by definition. What one person enjoys will differ from what other people enjoy. While you may not consider it gameplay it is, in fact, gameplay.

More importantly, writs and surveys are valuable. As such they should require some effort and in the case of surveys, time is the only effort that can be placed upon them.

This is the defintion of a game, according to a dictionary

a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.

There aren't any rules you're trying to puzzle out. No skill or strength or luck involved.

I don't believe in defintions that are so broad as to include literally everything and make it genuinely impossible to discuss elements of a game that are clearly different from one another in both usage and design. I find such defintions useless, unproductive, and counterproductive to discussion or thought. As such, I would kindly ask that we just agree to disagree. I will never find that opinion valid and nothing productive or on-topic could come from us discussing it further.

You don't believe there is such a thing as elements of game that aren't gameplay. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I don't believe that at all. Let's leave it at that

jpl7340 · April 2022

Just wanted to dust this thread off and let ZoS know that this is a QoL update I would LOVE to see. Specifically the suggestions regarding the crafting surveys. I honestly don’t care which you decide to implement, just please do something! The ever growing list of zones that grant surveys is just ridiculous at this point. I love this game, and I’d rather spend the limited amount of time I have doing dungeons, or trials, or delving with friends or battlegrounds. You know, all the things that you focus on when releasing expansions; not working through the back log of surveys that I received after spending over an hour rushing through all of my writs on 17 characters every day. Without folks like us, the game economy would crumble; I think making some of these things easier is well earned and long overdue.

Specifically, I would like to see the following things addressed:
-surveys taking up too much inventory space.
-the ridiculous amount of different nodes (and the fact that none show up on your map after finding the location).
-shortening the amount of time it takes to harvest materials per survey.

alberichtano · April 2022

Anony_Mouse wrote: »

I will just put this out there

I would pay a decent amount of crowns for an Assistant who could be sent to collect all my Crafting Surveys (Alchemy, Enchanting, Woodworking etc). Let us buy an assistant who can be sent out once a week or once a month to collect all our gathered Crafting Surveys and bring back the materials a day or so later.

So much time is taken up by collecting the surveys, it is just not an enjoyable use of time (for some). While some would prefer spending their time doing Trials, House Decorations, PvP, what have you, the surveys end up piling up. I don't want to spend hours upon hours running around different maps to collect the crafting mats. I have already completed 90% of the maps in the game.. Let me spend the time how I like, while I can still get the crafting mats which I have earned from doing Writs, and which I need the mats from to do crafting on gear for my adventures.

Pretty please?

Technically something like that already exists, if at a smaller scale, namely the Assistants you get when buying the passives for most crafting skills (though jewelry crafting has no such assistant, sadly).

alberichtano · April 2022

jpl7340 wrote: »

Just wanted to dust this thread off and let ZoS know that this is a QoL update I would LOVE to see. Specifically the suggestions regarding the crafting surveys. I honestly don’t care which you decide to implement, just please do something! The ever growing list of zones that grant surveys is just ridiculous at this point. I love this game, and I’d rather spend the limited amount of time I have doing dungeons, or trials, or delving with friends or battlegrounds. You know, all the things that you focus on when releasing expansions; not working through the back log of surveys that I received after spending over an hour rushing through all of my writs on 17 characters every day. Without folks like us, the game economy would crumble; I think making some of these things easier is well earned and long overdue.

Specifically, I would like to see the following things addressed:
-surveys taking up too much inventory space.
-the ridiculous amount of different nodes (and the fact that none show up on your map after finding the location).
-shortening the amount of time it takes to harvest materials per survey.

I take it you are playing on console? If not, there are addons that can help with part of your complaints, and CP-stars that can help with faster harvesting, or even chance of greater yields.

Gundug · April 2022

One potential solution to reduce the clutter and hassle of surveys taking players to many different zones could be to change all surveys from zone specific to generic versions that stack, and make it so any matching type survey location in any zone would be valid for consuming a survey page. This way, players can choose their favorite zone and clear a stack there, or have more opportunities for using up surveys as they happen to pass by survey locations while questing.

whitecrow · April 2022

JoeCapricorn wrote: »

Collecting surveys is one of my favorite things to do, as it gets me around Tamriel and gives me a good reason to visit all these places. I like to take the long way and hike it to each survey, gathering mats along the way.
...

Ultimately I am on the view that the system is not borked and does not need to be fixed.

Agreed. Like treasure maps, surveys are one of those little "mini-puzzles" in the game that I really enjoy. Once in a while they can be frustrating, but I love that "aha!" moment when it finally appears.

Etny2k · April 2022

Leave it the way it is. It is your fault for letting them stack up. It takes me 20 minutes a day and I enjoy it.

BalticBlues · April 2022

To me, the current SURVEYS ARE BAD PROGRAMMING.
Currently surveys are implemented so bad that you think this must be a BUG.

Because having to ride back and forth and back and forth and [...] for hours
because ONLY 6 NODES will spawn even if you have surveys for a 100 in your pocket,
PLAYERS HAVE TO WASTE GAMING TIME FOR A CHORE OF BAD PROGRAMMING.

ZOS, AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF SURVEY PAIN, PLEASE DO SOMETHING.
There are enough fine suggestions, and anything would be better than it is now.
I would prefer an assistant, but I also have no problems to ride to spawn points,
as long as ALL NODES for a spawn point would spawn at once instead of only 6 at a time.

Heartrage · April 2022

At least surveys are non-unique and stackable. Treasure maps have to be done at a regular basis or you end up finding some you can’t loot. I just don’t really like the way these maps have been integrated in the game. You have to spend a lot of time travelling to get an average reward. I would rather have less of them with more significant rewards so it feels like i’m actually getting something.

Heartrage · April 2022

volkeswagon wrote: »

That would make it automated so they won't do it. Surveys are supposed to be work. They don't take long to do if you don't let them build up too many.

This is my problem: "Surveys are supposed to be work".
I don’t want to work, I want to play. If surveys feel like work, there’s a problem.

I don’t think op solution is viable or good but there’s a problem with how surveys feel. I think making them x-time rarer but give x-time more would make them actually feel like a rewards from doing writs rather than an additional chore you have to go through.

whitecrow · April 2022

BalticBlues wrote: »

To me, the current SURVEYS ARE BAD PROGRAMMING.
Currently surveys are implemented so bad that you think this must be a BUG.

Because having to ride back and forth and back and forth and [...] for hours
because ONLY 6 NODES will spawn even if you have surveys for a 100 in your pocket,
PLAYERS HAVE TO WASTE GAMING TIME FOR A CHORE OF BAD PROGRAMMING.

ZOS, AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF SURVEY PAIN, PLEASE DO SOMETHING.
There are enough fine suggestions, and anything would be better than it is now.
I would prefer an assistant, but I also have no problems to ride to spawn points,
as long as ALL NODES for a spawn point would spawn at once instead of only 6 at a time.

Who has 100 surveys in their pocket? You get one, or a couple, you do them. If you're letting them sit that long, that's on you.

ZOS_Exile · April 2022

Greetings,

We have closed this topic as it was originally created in October 2020 and the information may no longer be relevant. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

Thank you for your understanding