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For whom time is relative.
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  • blktauna
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    If she gave me Darien to amuse me during my wait, I'd be more forgiving.
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  • Arunei
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    Technically time is/can be relative to all of the ES universe, because it doesn't exist linearly. It's why Dragon Breaks can happen and why numerous different outcomes of the same situation can exist simultaneously. It's basically TES' version of the Mandela Effect.
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    Kaalhil Swiftstrike: Tiny shapeshifting monster hunter Bosmeri lady with enough sass to kill a dragon or ten
    Gwendolyn Jenelle: Friendly healer with a coffee addiction and her own medical practice
    Krisiel: Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
    Kiju Veran: Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things and is also a spy and ALSO a Werewolf
    Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
    Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
    Marius Vastino: Sarah's Imperial apathetic sire who likes to monologue
    Lirawyn Calatare: Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
    Soliril Larethian: Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
  • Jaraal
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    Arunei wrote: »
    Technically time is/can be relative to all of the ES universe, because it doesn't exist linearly. It's why Dragon Breaks can happen and why numerous different outcomes of the same situation can exist simultaneously. It's basically TES' version of the Mandela Effect.

    Yes, the lore has devolved into several different alternate universes, depending on who you chose to make the ultimate sacrifice to save Tamriel. Which still doesn't explain things if you chose a different hero for each your different characters. Maybe account wide achievements is secretly making the choice of which sacrifice is valid, based upon date of completion/log in.

    Perhaps the ultimate retcon still awaits. Maybe the day the game closes it's doors, players will have to watch a cut scene where Varen Aquilerios wakes up from a deep slumber and proclaims, "It was all a dream!"
  • Northwold
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    blktauna wrote: »
    If she gave me Darien to amuse me during my wait, I'd be more forgiving.

    Just when I thought his fate couldn't get any sadder, she starts pimping him out for users' gratification. :neutral:
  • Arunei
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Arunei wrote: »
    Technically time is/can be relative to all of the ES universe, because it doesn't exist linearly. It's why Dragon Breaks can happen and why numerous different outcomes of the same situation can exist simultaneously. It's basically TES' version of the Mandela Effect.

    Yes, the lore has devolved into several different alternate universes, depending on who you chose to make the ultimate sacrifice to save Tamriel. Which still doesn't explain things if you chose a different hero for each your different characters. Maybe account wide achievements is secretly making the choice of which sacrifice is valid, based upon date of completion/log in.

    Perhaps the ultimate retcon still awaits. Maybe the day the game closes it's doors, players will have to watch a cut scene where Varen Aquilerios wakes up from a deep slumber and proclaims, "It was all a dream!"
    Iirc the canon choice is Varen, and honestly I think they should have just made him be the only option instead of being able to sacrifice one of the others. Or if they really wanted it to be a meaningful choice, they shouldn't have brought the others back because "fan service". They should have used entirely different characters so your choice remained meaningful.

    /grumble
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    Avid RPer. Hit me up in-game @Ras_Lei if you're interested in getting together for some arr-pee shenanigans!

    RP Characters:
    Sarah Lacroix: Breton Vampire who really really REALLY likes likes learning Magick and also her Altmer husbando
    Kaalhil Swiftstrike: Tiny shapeshifting monster hunter Bosmeri lady with enough sass to kill a dragon or ten
    Gwendolyn Jenelle: Friendly healer with a coffee addiction and her own medical practice
    Krisiel: Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
    Kiju Veran: Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things and is also a spy and ALSO a Werewolf
    Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
    Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
    Marius Vastino: Sarah's Imperial apathetic sire who likes to monologue
    Lirawyn Calatare: Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
    Soliril Larethian: Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
  • blktauna
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    Northwold wrote: »
    blktauna wrote: »
    If she gave me Darien to amuse me during my wait, I'd be more forgiving.

    Just when I thought his fate couldn't get any sadder, she starts pimping him out for users' gratification. :neutral:

    LOL I just want to listen to his exploits and oogle. No pimping required ;-D
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  • LostHorizon1933
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    Arunei wrote: »
    Iirc the canon choice is Varen, and honestly I think they should have just made him be the only option instead of being able to sacrifice one of the others. Or if they really wanted it to be a meaningful choice, they shouldn't have brought the others back because "fan service". They should have used entirely different characters so your choice remained meaningful.
    /grumble

    It’s kind of weird they went that route anyway. Why not have Kasura instead of Sai? Why not have Lyris’ brother … uh, Beerus.
  • Jaraal
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    Arunei wrote: »
    Iirc the canon choice is Varen, and honestly I think they should have just made him be the only option instead of being able to sacrifice one of the others. Or if they really wanted it to be a meaningful choice, they shouldn't have brought the others back because "fan service". They should have used entirely different characters so your choice remained meaningful.

    /grumble

    But why give Varen the easy way out? Perhaps he needs to continue to suffer and bear the burden of his guilt.... enhanced by the fact that someone else paid the price for him. But really, I think it was more a business decision, and the lore was sacrificed to achieve it. They knew that the familiar heroes would sell more content. It didn't have to make sense.
  • katanagirl1
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    The easy way out???

    Wasn’t he screaming for about 1 minute and a half before he died?

    I felt bad for him. He did deserve it for all he had done, though. He was the logical choice.
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  • xPoisin
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    Maybe old, but reminds on one old green dwarf named Yoda :
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  • Kaelthorn_Nightbloom
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    It's Clavicus Vile trolling us.

    Clavicus finds eternity to be "boring", so he finds entertainment in watching mortals and occasionally meddling in their affairs.
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  • potato_boo
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    Arunei wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    Arunei wrote: »
    Technically time is/can be relative to all of the ES universe, because it doesn't exist linearly. It's why Dragon Breaks can happen and why numerous different outcomes of the same situation can exist simultaneously. It's basically TES' version of the Mandela Effect.

    Yes, the lore has devolved into several different alternate universes, depending on who you chose to make the ultimate sacrifice to save Tamriel. Which still doesn't explain things if you chose a different hero for each your different characters. Maybe account wide achievements is secretly making the choice of which sacrifice is valid, based upon date of completion/log in.

    Perhaps the ultimate retcon still awaits. Maybe the day the game closes it's doors, players will have to watch a cut scene where Varen Aquilerios wakes up from a deep slumber and proclaims, "It was all a dream!"
    Iirc the canon choice is Varen, and honestly I think they should have just made him be the only option instead of being able to sacrifice one of the others. Or if they really wanted it to be a meaningful choice, they shouldn't have brought the others back because "fan service". They should have used entirely different characters so your choice remained meaningful.

    /grumble

    They brought Varen back at the end of Orsinium (which I do believe takes place after the main story) too, so literally all of them come "back", regardless of death
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    If only I could deny the gods by pressing back on my controller. Experience has taught me eso error messages are stupid, like sending a message through the net saying the net connection isn't connected.
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  • Dietche
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    If only I could deny the gods by pressing back on my controller. Experience has taught me eso error messages are stupid, like sending a message through the net saying the net connection isn't connected.

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  • ZOS_Bill
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