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  Wolfpaw

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  eMKa8 wrote: »

  Hi all !
  
  Question.
  I have been playing battlegrounds for a while now and am staring to get good at it.
  
  I have some set ups that work well.
  
  However now i am wondering.
  
  Whenever i play in imperial city i seem to be very squichy , especially when facing groups ;-)
  
  Are pvp set ups very different if you play in
  - battlegrounds
  - Cyrodill
  - Imperial city
  
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  How should i generally change my build when playing in cyrodill in stead of battlegrounds?
  
  Very keen to know your thoughts on this all !
  
  Thanks

  
  "Are pvp setups very different if you play in..."
  Yes, a big difference if you're playing CP/no-CP/proc sets/no-proc, is that what you're asking about?
  
  Cyrodiil alone has many playstyles/builds: Ball, zerg, duelers, 1vX (generally in groups under six, small scale), & AP farmers (PvE heavy).
  
  IC similar to Cyrodiil, but a focus on Telvar through PvE or PvP.
  
  Narrow your preferred playstyle, outside of BG is a different beast, but fun.

  Edited by Wolfpaw on April 10, 2022 5:12PM

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  In my experience, AOE is generally more useful for controlling the battlefield. Things like Daedric Mines, Wall of Frost, Caltrops and Boneyard are red areas that players try to avoid. They're useful in trying to position enemy players where you want them. Even when they aren't dealing damage, they're useful in that regard. I remember one of the editions of D&D actually had a "controller" role documented in its rule books, alongside the trinity of "damage", "healing" and "tank".
  
  For killing, single target damage is still what you want. This is true for all PVP game modes as far as I'm concerned. Just my 2 cents...

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  eMKa8 wrote: »

  Ok thanks !
  
  I guess battlegrounds are never with champion points right?!?
  
  I can understand some set ups might be very different then. Having said that … if people are t going for the general xp gains (+stuff like telvar etc…)
  
  Are they then still all quite single target focused ? Or is it important yo have a more aoe kind of set up against enemy players in those areas? (Not pve)
  
  @Wolfpaw

  
  Yup, IC/Cyrodiil generally have different setups from no-CP/proc and cp-proc.
  
  It really depends on your playstyle if you want to be more of duelist or fight large groups. Both play styles are good, one is not better than the other as they are two different sports.
  
  To give some context I play in a organized group, so I can't really give you great advice on builds for solo single target offense/defense. I'm only as strong as the players I group with, we focus zergs and map play, and skills/buffs/debuffs/sets that make the biggest impact on large number of enemies.
  
  The playstyle you are used to through BG, I'm assuming, is more focused on single target burst. Those players in Cyrodiil tend to be in unorganized zergs, solo/small group to lock resources & draw enemies from other parts of the map into a small scale fight, kill/disrupt players on the back of a siege line, look for 1v1 duels, solo bomb, etc...all good play styles.
  
  CP will play a big role if you choose those campaigns, as you're less reliant on sets for sustain and dmg mitigation.
  
  Best advice is try all the play styles in Cyrodiil and see what you enjoy most, build from there.

  Edited by Wolfpaw on April 10, 2022 6:24PM

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  Mayrael

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  IC is unique in one aspect from the other modes. Death in IC is not indifferent for most of the players because it involves the loss of Tel Vars, therefore you will see many more players focused on defense or using LoS as defense, also more players will try to avoid fights and thus their set ups will be significantly different from the attacker's side, all forms of soft CC (root and snare) become invaluable here. Another important point is that in IC ganking has a tangible benefit, so you will see more gankers there, which in turn makes it worthwhile to have ways to deal with invisibility.
  
  In Cyrodiil, on the other hand, you must be ready for the fact that there will almost never be a battle between equal forces on either side of a clash, any duel can be broken, any seemingly winning situation can be reversed. If you are playing for a campaign you must learn tactics and strategy. An important factor is also siege weapons, sometimes one accurate shot in the least opportune moment can wipe you off the board, it is worth to learn how to use them, which are suitable for which occasions. Here you adjust the build according to how you want to play. Starting with PUG, Ganking, Tanking, Bombing, 1vX, Small Scale, Guild Runs and ending with Ball Groups.
  
  There is no one way.

  Edited by Mayrael on April 10, 2022 10:04PM

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