Request: Character transfer, level 50 boost, cp 300 boost, class change
HonestLoverr
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As in the title, make these 4 things happen = profit!
The more options the better. Let players decide which way they prefer by simply making these available. Adjust the prices of these to fit the cost of your xp scrolls and/or vice versa et voila happy community.
ESO's mmo competition has it all, why don't you? Transfer lessens any possible upcoming frustration because of server problems. Level 50 boost is welcome to anyone who just wants to spend the least time dealing with leveling up new characters (new players as well as veterans). CP 300 boost makes the same group of players able to straight jump into vet content. And class change is a must for everyone who wants to play his main as a different class without the need to relevel every single line again and again (collecting skyshards too. having these in mind, adjusting prices there is not impossible either, isn't it? ). Could also just add fully leveled craft skill lines as a buyable option on top. Heck you can even make bundles of these with any combination you like to lure new players in. You will also make a lot of players return in no time since most of these things have been asked by retired players who have had no way of returning to the game because no transfer, boost or class change option available to them.
You did a character transfer in the past, when console versions released (but that was a 1 time deal only for PC>Console). And you can do it again. Maybe even a copy system of characters of the account to put it on a different platform. Your options are near endless and I doubt it would cost you much effort or money to implement.
I'm willing to buy all of it and others are too! So... just do it ZOS?
The more options the better. Let players decide which way they prefer by simply making these available. Adjust the prices of these to fit the cost of your xp scrolls and/or vice versa et voila happy community.
ESO's mmo competition has it all, why don't you? Transfer lessens any possible upcoming frustration because of server problems. Level 50 boost is welcome to anyone who just wants to spend the least time dealing with leveling up new characters (new players as well as veterans). CP 300 boost makes the same group of players able to straight jump into vet content. And class change is a must for everyone who wants to play his main as a different class without the need to relevel every single line again and again (collecting skyshards too. having these in mind, adjusting prices there is not impossible either, isn't it? ). Could also just add fully leveled craft skill lines as a buyable option on top. Heck you can even make bundles of these with any combination you like to lure new players in. You will also make a lot of players return in no time since most of these things have been asked by retired players who have had no way of returning to the game because no transfer, boost or class change option available to them.
You did a character transfer in the past, when console versions released (but that was a 1 time deal only for PC>Console). And you can do it again. Maybe even a copy system of characters of the account to put it on a different platform. Your options are near endless and I doubt it would cost you much effort or money to implement.
I'm willing to buy all of it and others are too! So... just do it ZOS?
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ShawnLaRock✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can you imagine a CP300 character in vet content who just purchased the level, and doesn’t have any skill points or gear or experience?
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HonestLoverr✭✭✭Then hand out purple starter gear sets with it. The competition handles it the exact same way. Should be np.1
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The "competition" has class-locked 'endgame' gear sets - or generic gear - rather than dozens of horizontal-progression sets to mix&match from.
Also, they only did that one character transfer because they were transferring to an empty server. They're not going to do any more transfers.1 -
Thormar✭✭✭✭I think you forgot the CP 3600, Tick Tock Tormentor, Emperor, Grand Overload plus Master Angler boost pack.PC - NA. Aldmeri Dominion6 -
Lady_Galadhiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭While on it also hand out the Sunspire mount to everyone.Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.5 -
HonestLoverr✭✭✭@Thormar sounds like a bit over the top but I would gladly buy a boost that pushes me and wifeys PC accounts somewhere above 1000 cp if I could
We already moved from console to PC. The new CP system is a huge grind and without transfer nor boosts and few time to play its taking ages to just get on a competitive level again. Don't let me even start with the other stuff like those limited crown store products you can't get anymore.1 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Come to think of it, the "competition" also has level progression. So the "level boosts" they sell aren't to get to endgame the instant you start playing, it's to boost you to the minimum level to start running the Latest & Greatest Expansion™.
This game is level scaled. When you create a new character, you can jump right in to the latest story. So there's no need for level boosts.
(meanwhile, the "game only starts at endgame" crowd, know all about how to ultra-xp-grind so they can start farming lv50/160 gear for their endgame builds within days.)3 -
agelonestar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I generally agree with @HonestLoverr 's original comments.
I have ground out countless new characters - I'd absolutely pay crowns to go right it at L50 for the next one. There's only so much of the same content I want to do !!
Additionally, the ability to move characters between - for example - the EU and NA servers would be welcome. As would Class Change token, if anyone's listening.....
I know that having the ability to jump right in at CP level would be controversial but..... I'm struggling to think of any reason why not, or how that might negatively impact my game. To be honest, if it helps to revive the population, I say go for it !!GM of Sunfire's Sect trading guild on PC/EU. All that is gold does not glitter; not all those who wander are lost...... some of us are just looking for trouble.GM of Sunfire's Sect (Open) & Dark Star Rising (Priv) | Retired GM of several trade guilds | Trader | Here since the beta2 -
HonestLoverr✭✭✭@Kiralyn2000 Its not about what the competition does different in all kind of game aspects. Its about what they offer players to catch up. That can be done here too regardless of how the gameplay works, the progression, or even the sets. Its just simple ways to catch up or transfer that ZOS and players both profit from. No more nor less.0
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But there's no need to "catch up". It's all just paying money to skip playing the game.12 -
GarfieId✭Not a good idea for this game for a few reasons, some people have already said above, but I'll throw in a few more.
These are some skill lines you cannot buy;
Weapon skill lines would still need to be grinded out
Class skill lines need to be grinded out
Armor skill lines need to be grinded out
Some you can buy;
Fighters guild
Mages guild
Undaunted
Not to mention (assuming when you're saying buy cp 300 means you're not currently cp) you'll have to first get skyshards before you can buy them.
The way I'd put it, you'd spend more time grinding the wep and class skill lines than you would to level 50, so why not just do both? Even if you could buy them you'd be spending a pretty penny for all those lines for a single character.1 -
HonestLoverr✭✭✭@Kiralyn2000 Not for you maybe. For others though. And with your last point I partially agree. I wanna skip what I want, when I want. I'm willing to pay for it indeed. I still do so to play the game MY way. Not yours. But to each their own.0
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AngelicaDLynn✭✭✭HonestLoverr wrote: »@Kiralyn2000 Not for you maybe. For others though. And with your last point I partially agree. I wanna skip what I want, when I want. I'm willing to pay for it indeed. I still do so to play the game MY way. Not yours. But to each their own.
That is called pay to win if you don't realize it. They have already made too much available for purchase if you asked me.4 -
HonestLoverr✭✭✭@GarfieId Whatever is needed can be put into a boost bundle. Adjusting prices of what is already inside the crown store would be needed too depending on what they wanna do. Nothing is impossible.
@AngelicaDLynn I'm not asking for the cyrodiil hammer handed out to me. I'm requesting boost options and transfers. A player who does leveling on his own and a player who buys a boost. The player who does it on his own ends up with more stuff grinded out and collected than contained in the suggested boost coupled with more achievements and what not. So the self made 50 or cp 300 still has the upper hand compared to the boosted player. No idea how this is pay to win.
And regarding the transfer its not true either. On every platform you have bis people running around (even bis doesn't really fit here since bis depends on situations etc. + you can't buy play talent regardless of PvE or PvP so what gives?). Doesn't matter who transfers where. It lures people in, makes players return, makes all sides profit. Existing players don't lose anything. Nothing of this touches any meta or anything else gameplay wise. All it does is making things easier.0 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I am all for people being able to transfer NA<->EU so long as they can only move with bound items. No gold and nothing they can sell. All that gets destroyed in the transfer. That allows them to move without having to restart, but also means no impact on economy of destination.
I'm not sure it makes sense thought to compare transfers in other MMOs with multiple servers in the same region to ESO where everyone is on the same server split by Consoles/PC and EU/NA.0 -
Lumenn✭✭✭✭✭
✭HonestLoverr wrote: »@Thormar sounds like a bit over the top but I would gladly buy a boost that pushes me and wifeys PC accounts somewhere above 1000 cp if I could
We already moved from console to PC. The new CP system is a huge grind and without transfer nor boosts and few time to play its taking ages to just get on a competitive level again. Don't let me even start with the other stuff like those limited crown store products you can't get anymore.
Tell me about it. I "play" both console and PC but mostly stay with the console SOLELY because of the one time items, motifs, houses, mounts etc. I easily have a few $k in console and 14 characters. PC add ons make everything so much easier but can't replace those. I'd pay for a transfer, especially since I'm Xbox I thought we'd have an "in" now(sorry playstation. )0 -
HonestLoverr✭✭✭@DaveMoeDee If they gonna delete the gold me and my wife got on two accounts by spending thousands in the time span of years on by being actively selling crowns on a weekly base I would demand a crown refund for every sold gift to players to get that gold in the first place. Or simply don't delete anything and just do a complete transfer.
Everyone worked one way or the other to get their stuff and gold. Why take it away from them? Because of inflation? Prices adjust anyways. Otherwise more gold sinks are needed. But that's pure speculation. Nobody knows on which platform and server the majority would transfer to or from. Thats also something that would change every time I can imagine.1 -
Gaeliannas✭✭✭✭✭ShawnLaRock wrote: »Can you imagine a CP300 character in vet content who just purchased the level, and doesn’t have any skill points or gear or experience?
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You mean just like the folks who hit 300+ CP in overland I see struggling on public dungeon bosses? Yeah I don't have to imagine it, it happens all the time already. The only difference is they didn't purchase their levels, but still didn't manage to learn how the game works. They are just playing how they like and having fun, which is what this game was build for.Edited by Gaeliannas on April 4, 2022 1:49PM2 -
maximusrex45✭✭✭✭✭I'd rather have cross play and the ability to play my account on any platform than server transfers.1 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Server transfer isn't likely to happen due to issues with console first party (Sony/Microsoft). Of the two, I'll let you guess where the issue actually lies. It's been stated that they don't like players (payers) moving off their platform. It has nothing to do with being player friendly and everything to do with money.
CP 300 boost doesn't seem necessary. Brand new players shouldn't be jumping right into vet content through the queue. They can always group up and walk in the content with premades which is fine as all players agree that a low cp player is ok at that point. Pushing a brand new player into vet DLC isn't fair to everyone else in the queue group.
Level 50 boost is something I can see either way, but if it were to be sold, I think it would be best to require the account to already have at least one level 50 character. If someone wants to pay a pile of money to skip what many view as a small grind overall, let them do it. They still need to get the guild lines and skyshards, but the credit card can handle that too.
As for class change, I think it should be added as it's the last thing we really can't respec on our characters currently. We're locked into a class we chose nearly 8 years ago that has seen 8 years of changes. We should be able to change that like we can change anything else such as alliance or race. In the past, ZOS has been adamant they will not add this but I'm hoping it's because it's viewed as not worth the effort and not because they are just being stubborn like how we can't have a minimap in the base game.2 -
VaxtinTheWolf✭✭✭✭✭I'm surprised, initially I thought this was a post from April 1. Paying to skip content never made sence in my mind. 'Just play the game' can't be that difficult yes? The only thing I see with those options are benefits for those who just want to rush or are impatient. Maybe a potential positive for the players whose lives dont permit them much time to manually advance, but otherwise seems like a lazy way to skip ahead which already presents problems currently with some of the 'carries' and power-leveling antics that have been ongoing in many games.|| AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
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Ragnarok0130✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Come to think of it, the "competition" also has level progression. So the "level boosts" they sell aren't to get to endgame the instant you start playing, it's to boost you to the minimum level to start running the Latest & Greatest Expansion™.
This game is level scaled. When you create a new character, you can jump right in to the latest story. So there's no need for level boosts.
(meanwhile, the "game only starts at endgame" crowd, know all about how to ultra-xp-grind so they can start farming lv50/160 gear for their endgame builds within days.)
That's not the point @Kiralyn2000 and there's obviously a need for level boosts for several reasons because people keep asking for this even if you wouldn't use it. I hate leveling toons to level 50, it's a slog, you're ineffective, you can't use any of your good banked CP160 gear, you can't run undaunted, and it feels like a waste since I'm not earning Champion points for my main.
I slogged through the 1-50 grind several times, I slogged through veteran ranks at launch, frankly I'm over slogging. I'd kill to be able to roll a level 50 toon and go through my base game content on a new toon like it's Cadwell's Silver/Gold once you've fully leveled at least one toon from level 1. I'm not saying this to take a new toon through trials - although that wouldn't be impossible if you know that class, have skills unlocked already and have gear banked ready to go. It's a solid player first option - and we must remember it would be optional and a real money sale for ZoS.0 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HonestLoverr wrote: »You did a character transfer in the past, when console versions released (but that was a 1 time deal only for PC>Console). And you can do it again. Maybe even a copy system of characters of the account to put it on a different platform. Your options are near endless and I doubt it would cost you much effort or money to implement.
Zenimax never transferred anything from one server to another live server and they have never moved individual characters.
Also, considering they could monetize such transfers and we know the required tool is something that can be created by those willing to do so logic tells us that there is something other than will or choice preventing Zenimax from doing so such as contractual terms between one or more of their business partners such as Xbox or PS. (Xbox is still a business partner as a separate corporation since it is a different corporate subsidiary of MS which would have a corporate separateness doctrine of some sort.)
So it does seem not as simple as one might expect.ShawnLaRock wrote: »Can you imagine a CP300 character in vet content who just purchased the level, and doesn’t have any skill points or gear or experience?
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This is another great point. No other MMORPG has this as they do not have a CP system that is account-wide, It can only be sold once per server/account and is only useful for new players who most defiantly need to get used to the combat system if they are coming from much simpler games such as WoW and FF.
So it means only the least experienced players in ESO would be purchasing this boost and wreaking havoc on the GF.
I would also note that even the lvl 50 boost would only, and should only, grant the minimum number of skill points earned from leveling up. This means the charter is not very useful without spending more money or actually playing the game.
The systems in ESO are very different than other MMORPGs so what works well and makes sense there is just plain weird or not very useful here.
It is also very easy to get "starter gear" in ESO. Just is over from an alt is the easiest. Again, we do not want new players who know nothing about the game entering vet group content. They need to learn the basics of how to play.
Edited by Amottica on April 4, 2022 4:48PM0 -
Kesstryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Leftover_Pizza wrote: »Pay to Not Play. Gamers these days....
Well, it all started with ZOS's version of AwA that now let's alts skip delves and world bosses, and gave away hard achievements like grand Master crafter. No need to fish anymore on alts, or get dungeon achievements, it's all done once now. Players that want to skip playing the game feel encouraged by this, now they will want more.
I honestly don't care if ZOS gives out level 50 unlocks at this point, I just want the bugs and interference AwA has caused to get fixed so I can enjoy playing the game again because I actually did like actually playing the game.
Edited by Kesstryl on April 5, 2022 10:18AMHEARTHLIGHT - A guild for housing enthusiasts! Contact @Kesstryl in-game to join.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Here is a better idea. Just give everyone the template characters they have on PTS and import them to live....
Look at some point ZOS has to draw the line and give people replayability and reasons to login and put effort into the game. If they take actions such that ALL you have to look forward to is dailies, pvp, and bgs... then the game is dead.1 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I will also add that getting to level 50 cp 300 from scratch on a brand new account during an exp event can be done in one week or less with the right focuses. Thus won't generate as much revenue as you think. Not unless zos is willing to allow players to pay their way to 3600. But this is really a one time cash incursion when what zos desires and needs is recurring cash incursions.3
