Please, remove Hammer feature from Cyrodiil

Scaletho
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With more than 7.400 hours playing ESO, and a substantial amount of those hours playing at Cyrodiil, I never saw the Volendrung been used in a really useful way.

This feature is horrible, useless, causes a great amount of lag and never gives any actual advantage to the weaker faction when it spawns. It functions merely as a stupid tool to be used to cause a complete lack of strategic relevance in the game.

The hammer stacks the faction using it, which render an unplayable performance. It is a completely lame excuse to give PvP some kind of chaos just because it is "Sheogorath way" to do things.

Most of the time it spawns, some lame guy take it and try to play "god mode" -- failing miserably. Or some endgame guy use it to destroy everything until it is taken and the mess changes side!

Never, NEVER this horrible feature gave any kind of valuable advantage.

Was Volendrung designed to give some teenage player "fun"? Or it was designed just to annoying people?

If ZoS removes the hammer, is it gives PVP Cyrodiil any disadvantage? No! Absolutely not. Volendrung is a completely expendable ESO feature. And if it is removed, in fact this will give Cydoriil experience a great advantage.

Please, ZOS, remove this hammer and create something more engaging and really fun to ESO pvp experience. Perhaps some boost in AP, or better siege weapons. Something really creative and not server demanding.

Please.
  • newtinmpls
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    I never thought one way or the other about it till the recent Cyrodiil event; I happened to be "tagging along" with a hammer group.

    The wielder cruised through the map, blasting into keeps and then dashing off while we repaired, counted the "tic" and then swarmed after him.

    It was shockingly fun and we probably nailed 5 or 6 keeps before he finally died from it.

    Wonderful fun; a whole different experience.

    I say keep it.
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  • Call_of_Red_Mountain
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    We need new relic. Not hammer. So, I agree. Remove it from Cyrodiil.
    Edited by Call_of_Red_Mountain on March 12, 2022 10:09PM
  • Kwik1
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    But....Sheogorath...
  • TechMaybeHic
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    It's just another power addition for the most stacked faction at the time at best, and caused stacks and lag at worse. I agree with getting rid of it
  • Arunei
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    The worst thing is it spawns randomly, right? Which means it can spawn near an Alliance that's poplocked and make it difficult, if not impossible, for lower-population Alliances to really stand a chance when it comes to defending Keeps and all.

    Maybe if it had a higher chance of spawning near the Alliances with lower populations to give them a boost it wouldn't be as bad?
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  • spartaxoxo
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    No, It looks cool
    Edited by spartaxoxo on March 13, 2022 5:13AM
  • katanagirl1
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    I just think it’s odd that there are dozens of spawn points for the hammer and it always shows up behind one of the gates.

    It would be way more fun to spawn somewhere in the middle and have a huge melee brawl to get it.
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  • S0Z0H
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    Kwik1 wrote: »
    But....Sheogorath...

    Well they could finally replace it with a wheel of cheese. Yes and if u use it and kill 100 players with wheel of cheese, you should get the title "Big Cheese"
  • LannStone
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    All I can say is when my alliance happened to get it when I was in Cyrodill - which is not very often - it was pretty fun for one of my weak characters to tag along at the end of the train and rack up some AP.
  • Xarc
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    Do you know we have a campaign without hammer ?
    welcome to Ravenwatch
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  • Monte_Cristo
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    I had fun the one time i used it. Bashing through the door in a couple of swings.
  • Iron_Warrior
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    I hate both the hammer and the emperor buffs or any kind of "big boost" to player. These stuff don't let the campaigns with very low population grow. Many many times over the years i've tried to play in low pop campaigns and it always goes like this:

    You solo siege a castle, one or two guys join you and same thing happens for the other faction. You guys fight for some time and the numbers grow to 5 or 6 people per group. The numbers are slowly growing and you are having fun but...

    HERE COMES THE PARTY POOPER, THE EMPEROR!

    the emperor comes to defend his empty kingdom. The fun small scale fight between two groups is now turned into a stomp because now the attackers have to deal with castle defences, enemy players AND the emperor. They fail over and over again and decide to move on and do something else. Thus the campaign becomes empty once again.

    And the hammer made it even worse, since one faction usually has the whole map in the empty campaigns, they will also get the hammer. So now the have both the emperor and the hammer, great!

    At least they disabled hammer in ravenwatch so that's a good step. Bottom line is that these "big boosts" are the cause of empty campaigns.
  • TechMaybeHic
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    Arunei wrote: »
    The worst thing is it spawns randomly, right? Which means it can spawn near an Alliance that's poplocked and make it difficult, if not impossible, for lower-population Alliances to really stand a chance when it comes to defending Keeps and all.

    Maybe if it had a higher chance of spawning near the Alliances with lower populations to give them a boost it wouldn't be as bad?

    Really doesn't matter as someone takes the hammer out thinking they are now some super hero; then go out and get wrecked by the bigger zerg at the time. Heck; some people have alt accounts with even blatant names that match their enemy faction and just grab it and run to the other faction intentionally. Either way; it then becomes super toxic.

    Only chance of a smaller faction that doesn't have the big zerg doing good with it is if they have a good coordinated group with heals and a tanky carrier. There's been times where my group who generally avoid the hammer, would grab it and keep it behind the gate until we see a good group like that, or the hammer goes away. Best thing to do if you're out manned.
  • TechMaybeHic
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    Xarc wrote: »
    Do you know we have a campaign without hammer ?
    welcome to Ravenwatch

    I've been getting keeping a no proc build in my dressing room for Ravenwatch but even last night as lag got unbearable in GH; Ravenwatch was like 2 bars. And times I've gone, the map will be one color with just resources being flipped.

    I so want to go that route though.
  • Xarc
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    playing blue side in ravenwatch EU* is like playing hardcore mode in eso

    Edited by Xarc on March 13, 2022 12:23PM
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  • LostHorizon1933
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    Please Hammer, don’t hurt ‘em.
  • Mesite
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    Don't need the hammer until I've had a go with it.
  • katanagirl1
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    Xarc wrote: »
    Do you know we have a campaign without hammer ?
    welcome to Ravenwatch

    It’s an empty campaign on PS NA.

    I’d rather die strong than die weak anyway.
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  • Supreme_Atromancer
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    Scaletho wrote: »

    This feature is horrible, useless, causes a great amount of lag and never gives any actual advantage to the weaker faction when it spawns.

    The hammer stacks the faction using it, which render an unplayable performance.

    You're absolutely right, and it needs to be called out. The underdog just holding on against the stacked faction is the one who's gonna get stomped back to gate every single time. And the performance around the hammer is atrocious.

    But I don't want them to remove it. It can be fun for people. People are always complaining that Cyro gets no love (in terms of features, additions or changes), so its probably better to fix features they have rather then remove them. I still have faith in Matt's statement that performance will be dramatically improved.
  • Supreme_Atromancer
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    Kwik1 wrote: »
    But....Sheogorath...

    HAHA Mortals! CHEESE! LOL I'M SO RANDOM. Did I mention CHEESE!!11
  • shadyjane62
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    When I see the Hammer of Doom in our hands, I go to crops or vlast and just do dailies. It incites people to madness where they just drop any planned advance work in taking keeps and since inevitably we lose it it starts a downward trend in progression.
  • Xarc
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    I think anyway it's time for a new artefact.
    We all have enough of volendrung.
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