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Why is the stun on streak even a thing?
axi
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Like seriously who in his right mind thought this is a good idea? Undodgable unblockable AoE stun tied to the ability that is a gap closer and escape tool at the same time? Don't get me wrong I dont claim that teleport itself on streak is broken, I think class deserves quick way to disengage but stun on streak in its current form is just a spit in the face of anything that can be called balanced.
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madrab73✭✭✭✭✭No problem with the stun on it. Gives class identity like cloak on NB. [snip] you should expect it when fighting a sorc.|
[edited to remove baiting comment]Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on March 2, 2022 2:24PM29 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To capitalize on the movement it grants you. Otherwise there would be no delay from when you streaked to when the enemy has already come in with a gap closer. It's balanced.... In it's own unique and strange way.Edited by Vevvev on February 25, 2022 12:01PMPC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK8 -
Dalsinthus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mag sorcs are easy ap this patch. They also have limited bar space compared to other classes (more so in pve). I have never had a problem with the stun on this skill.3 -
Aardappelboom✭✭✭✭✭I don't like to deal with streak
but I think it's fine, I use a gab closer and when stunned I have enough time to just break free and use the gab closer to stay on the heels of the sorcerer.
They have just enough time to get a heal or two in, without streak it'd be a lot easier to kill them which wouldn't be fair.
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Iron_Warrior✭✭✭✭✭I hate streak from bottom of my heart, rather fight 3 cloak spamming NBs at the same time than fighting a freaking streak spamming sorc
I wish ZOS increased console sensitivity so it wouldn't took a year to do a 180 then dealing with streak would be much less frustratingEdited by Iron_Warrior on February 25, 2022 2:22PM5 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It’s dodgeable, tho that may not always be the case if the lag is too bad. Unblockable stuns are needed though, with a lot of permablocking tanks out there. Streak isn’t even as much of an issue as it was before either. It used to ignore walls and higher levels."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power1 -
worrallj✭✭✭✭✭I envy you people and your gap closers. Mine are all bugged and can't use them so sorcs are insta-lose for me.1 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭I envy you people and your gap closers. Mine are all bugged and can't use them so sorcs are insta-lose for me.
Even with FIOS internet on a PS5 I typically end up with bar swapping issues and all my abilities becoming grayed out in all PVP zones when near 2 or more enemy players. I am not even really playing during the event and I can't figure out how those on a PS4 are playing.
If I move away from enemy players usually 5m or further my character operates just fine. I have no idea why when I get within 5m of two players my stuff goes to crap. Also this only applies when I'm facing EP. When I face DC even with 20 players around me I have no issues.
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I envy you people and your gap closers. Mine are all bugged and can't use them so sorcs are insta-lose for me.
I guarantee you that sorcs have the same issues with streak. I can't tell you how many times I hit streak 2-3 times and just stand dead still, and when streak finally does fire off, the 2-3 seconds worth of projectiles insta kill me when I hit may target location.9 -
xDeusEJRx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stun exists because they want each class to have an unblockable crowd control ability in it's kit, hence why streak stuns. Templars are the only class lacking that currently but they plan to change it in update 33 so every class has an unblockable CCSolo PvP'er PS5 NA player
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stun exists because they want each class to have an unblockable crowd control ability in it's kit, hence why streak stuns. Templars are the only class lacking that currently but they plan to change it in update 33 so every class has an unblockable CC
They've actually done a decent job of making these all unique:
NB is an AOE that works in close range, or a trap that assists with escape. Each of which synergizes with the melee based toolkit.
Necro is a ground based area of effect, that ties in with corpse control and area control of the toolkit.
DK is a single target, melee range, that locks down single opponents to get dumped on.
Warden is AOE and tied to healing, keeping them in the mix of things and stunning nearby opponents.
Templar will have the ranged single target that also knocks down.
Sorc has the AOE stun tied to their mobility. Defensively, it helps keep them at range, offensively, it forces them into melee range to be effective. Forcing a sorc to either sacrifice range for an offensive stun, or give an opponent CC immunity to gain distance from them.
None of this even takes into account that every class has access to an instant, aoe, unblockable undodgeble stun in the fighters guild Turn Undead. A skill that provides Minor Protection, Minor Endurance and weapon/spell damage increase for slotting.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Aardappelboom wrote: »I don't like to deal with streak but I think it's fine, I use a gab closer and when stunned I have enough time to just break free and use the gab closer to stay on the heels of the sorcerer.
They have just enough time to get a heal or two in, without streak it'd be a lot easier to kill them which wouldn't be fair.
Stam sorc can Streak away from you, gap close to another enemy further ahead (Stampede), Streak, Stampede, etc.... until you are just a tiny speck back there on the battlefield. 0 -
w002exp✭✭✭Stun exists because they want each class to have an unblockable crowd control ability in it's kit, hence why streak stuns. Templars are the only class lacking that currently but they plan to change it in update 33 so every class has an unblockable CC
They've actually done a decent job of making these all unique:
NB is an AOE that works in close range, or a trap that assists with escape. Each of which synergizes with the melee based toolkit.
Necro is a ground based area of effect, that ties in with corpse control and area control of the toolkit.
DK is a single target, melee range, that locks down single opponents to get dumped on.
Warden is AOE and tied to healing, keeping them in the mix of things and stunning nearby opponents.
Templar will have the ranged single target that also knocks down.
Sorc has the AOE stun tied to their mobility. Defensively, it helps keep them at range, offensively, it forces them into melee range to be effective. Forcing a sorc to either sacrifice range for an offensive stun, or give an opponent CC immunity to gain distance from them.
None of this even takes into account that every class has access to an instant, aoe, unblockable undodgeble stun in the fighters guild Turn Undead. A skill that provides Minor Protection, Minor Endurance and weapon/spell damage increase for slotting.
Actually saw a NB today using the traps to protect a chanel (staircase or hallway) in front of her while she pew pew'd. I thought this was pretty smart and was super annoying when I was close to the kill.0 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭No problem with the stun on it. Gives class identity like cloak on NB. Sounds like a learn to play issue, you should expect it when fighting a sorc.
Teleport itself gives identity like cloak. Expecting the stun doesn't suddenly make it balanced. If there would be 100k oblivion dmg cast time ability in the game would it be balanced because You can expect that? [snip]
[edited for bait]Edited by ZOS_Exile on March 1, 2022 1:29PM1 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭To capitalize on the movement it grants you. Otherwise there would be no delay from when you streaked to when the enemy has already come in with a gap closer. It's balanced.... In it's own unique and strange way.
Base ability already does that by providing stun at the beggining and end point of the teleport. And capitalizing on movement on that particular morph could be done in so many other ways for example by lowering cost penatly which wouild allow for even better disengaging. Also when it comes to capitalising on the movement I would say ball of lightning is the morph designed to do that. AoE 18x6 undodgable unblockable stun tied to the teleport ability is not balanced in any shape or form.1 -
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✭✭✭✭I envy you people and your gap closers. Mine are all bugged and can't use them so sorcs are insta-lose for me.
I guarantee you that sorcs have the same issues with streak. I can't tell you how many times I hit streak 2-3 times and just stand dead still, and when streak finally does fire off, the 2-3 seconds worth of projectiles insta kill me when I hit may target location.
My favourite is casting steak 3 times, nothing happens, die, respawn at keep, then magically streak.7 -
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✭✭It is literally the only lightning based stun left in the game that is tied to a skill...(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭✭✭✭✭Unblockable stuns were just another way to remove counterplay/dumb down the PvP in this game.
Streak should stun but it should not be unblockable. This goes for a lot of stuns though. I’m not really a fan of the direction this game has gone in terms of game balance since Morrowind.1 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »It’s dodgeable, tho that may not always be the case if the lag is too bad. Unblockable stuns are needed though, with a lot of permablocking tanks out there. Streak isn’t even as much of an issue as it was before either. It used to ignore walls and higher levels.
It's not dodgable and it has nothing to do with lag. It is simply undodgable, unblockable stun by design. Basically every AoE stun is undodgable. AoE abilities are undodgable by design.Edited by axi on February 27, 2022 2:54PM1 -
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✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »It’s dodgeable, tho that may not always be the case if the lag is too bad. Unblockable stuns are needed though, with a lot of permablocking tanks out there. Streak isn’t even as much of an issue as it was before either. It used to ignore walls and higher levels.
Bruh.2 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭Aardappelboom wrote: »I don't like to deal with streak but I think it's fine, I use a gab closer and when stunned I have enough time to just break free and use the gab closer to stay on the heels of the sorcerer.
They have just enough time to get a heal or two in, without streak it'd be a lot easier to kill them which wouldn't be fair.
I have no issue with the stun at the beggining and the end of the path so for people spamming with gapclosers to chase them nothing would change.0 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭Stun exists because they want each class to have an unblockable crowd control ability in it's kit, hence why streak stuns. Templars are the only class lacking that currently but they plan to change it in update 33 so every class has an unblockable CC
Funnily enough templars had unblockable stun in the past on shards.1 -
xDeusEJRx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stun exists because they want each class to have an unblockable crowd control ability in it's kit, hence why streak stuns. Templars are the only class lacking that currently but they plan to change it in update 33 so every class has an unblockable CC
Funnily enough templars had unblockable stun in the past on shards.
Yes I remember those times, unfortunately the dev team from now isn't the same as the 2016 days so the direction of the game has changed, numerous timesSolo PvP'er PS5 NA player
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unblockable stuns were just another way to remove counterplay/dumb down the PvP in this game.
Streak should stun but it should not be unblockable. This goes for a lot of stuns though. I’m not really a fan of the direction this game has gone in terms of game balance since Morrowind.
Remove counterplay? They are literally direct counterplay to permablocking tanks. Without unblockable stuns they'd be unkillable.10 -
Rasande_Robin✭✭✭✭In my honest opinion it's the "strongest" utility ability in the game.
It combines 3 utility abilities in one!
Stun, Charge and "escape"(defensive) ability.
Maybe it needs to be this way because pets take up such a big part of the ability bar, who knows how the Devs think.PC/EU: Orcana "something"-stone4 -
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✭✭Rasande_Robin wrote: »In my honest opinion it's the "strongest" utility ability in the game.
It combines 3 utility abilities in one!
Stun, Charge and "escape"(defensive) ability.
Maybe it needs to be this way because pets take up such a big part of the ability bar, who knows how the Devs think.
Far from the strongest ability, unlike the many abilities and sets that can't be, it is amazingly easy to negate. Not to mention, most sorcs would rather not "gap close", being as they can be quite squishy and die to melee attacks rather quickly and easily.5 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rasande_Robin wrote: »In my honest opinion it's the "strongest" utility ability in the game.
It combines 3 utility abilities in one!
Stun, Charge and "escape"(defensive) ability.
Maybe it needs to be this way because pets take up such a big part of the ability bar, who knows how the Devs think.
Far from the strongest ability, unlike the many abilities and sets that can't be, it is amazingly easy to negate. Not to mention, most sorcs would rather not "gap close", being as they can be quite squishy and die to melee attacks rather quickly and easily.
Yeah, I'd put DK Leap pretty far ahead of Streak for ability strength.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Unblockable stuns were just another way to remove counterplay/dumb down the PvP in this game.
Streak should stun but it should not be unblockable. This goes for a lot of stuns though. I’m not really a fan of the direction this game has gone in terms of game balance since Morrowind.
Remove counterplay? They are literally direct counterplay to permablocking tanks. Without unblockable stuns they'd be unkillable.
So because one balance issue exists your solution is to create a whole new balance issue to counteract it. Not a good look.
Same goes for AoE caps, ultimate cast times, frags/bow proc travel time, ability homogenization, etc. This game has gained a mass amount of players over the years and dramatically increased PvP rewards yet the PvP population has shrunk considerably. Feel free to have a difference of opinion ofc but the dumbing down of combat is a horrible thing for PvP (has been fine in PvE).1 -
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✭✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »It’s dodgeable, tho that may not always be the case if the lag is too bad. Unblockable stuns are needed though, with a lot of permablocking tanks out there. Streak isn’t even as much of an issue as it was before either. It used to ignore walls and higher levels.
It's not dodgable and it has nothing to do with lag. It is simply undodgable, unblockable stun by design. Basically every AoE stun is undodgable. AoE abilities are undodgable by design.
Streak specifically has been made to be dodgeable, thanks to a lot of complaints. It quite literally says here: https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/streak and in-game. I’ve had plenty of people dodge my streaks. Maybe your dodge roll didn’t go through or register, which happens a lot."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »WuffyCerulei wrote: »It’s dodgeable, tho that may not always be the case if the lag is too bad. Unblockable stuns are needed though, with a lot of permablocking tanks out there. Streak isn’t even as much of an issue as it was before either. It used to ignore walls and higher levels.
It's not dodgable and it has nothing to do with lag. It is simply undodgable, unblockable stun by design. Basically every AoE stun is undodgable. AoE abilities are undodgable by design.
Streak specifically has been made to be dodgeable, thanks to a lot of complaints. It quite literally says here: https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/streak and in-game. I’ve had plenty of people dodge my streaks. Maybe your dodge roll didn’t go through or register, which happens a lot.
It cannot be dodged. It was not made specifically to be dodged. It doesn't even say that in the link provided1
