Whitestrake's Mayhem PvE alternative?

SimonThesis · February 2022

Could we then get a pvp alternative to every Pve event? I think that would be the only way to make it fair if this idea went live.

faeeichenlaub · February 2022

Go in with a NB and do Scout mission each day in Cyrodiil. Get your tix. Get killed on the way back for fast port to gate to comforting pve land.

PrimusTiberius · February 2022

everyone is so serious when it comes to PvP and midyear Mayhem (aka-Whitestrake's Mayhem) Just do what I do and pull a
Leeeeeeeeeroooooooooooy Jenkins and jump in, who cares if you die or not....Show me your tickets

Cheers!!

DarcyMardin · February 2022

I don’t PvP, but I always have a blast during the twice a year mayhem. If there’s a big fight going on, I dive right into it (and die pretty easily since I don’t have any PvP talent). Fortunately dying doesn’t bother me at all. Today in IC, I followed some random group of zergers and saw the “You have killed a Grand Overlord” flash as an achievement — LOL, I must have gotten a couple of hits in somehow. I also got bombed to death more than once.

Fun was had.

Amottica · February 2022

etchedpixels wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Still a very low chance of trouble. I have never been attacked while doing a "writing the report".

And the point is that there are many good suggestions in here for the OP and others to avoid PvP while getting their tickets.

And a lot of PvP players will politely gank you after you finish your report. No difference to them and you get a free ride home.

But it is very rare. It is just so extremely unlikely a player will be sitting in the middle of nothing happening, at the right location, in the correct area, for them to find someone doing a report. It would make so much more sense to camp a quest area, or even a quest objective.

So yes, I am sure such an extremely unlikely occurrence of this has happened over the years, but it is just an extremely low probability.

Drammanoth · February 2022

If you don't like PvP, suck at PvP (myself here) than the solution is simple:

SKIP IT.

Or ask some guildies to help you with quests, get the tickets, buy the 2nd ingridient for the Scales, and that's that. By the end of the event, Durcorachs outfit will have been ***-cheap.

Eric_Prince · February 2022

DarcyMardin wrote: »

I don’t PvP, but I always have a blast during the twice a year mayhem. If there’s a big fight going on, I dive right into it (and die pretty easily since I don’t have any PvP talent). Fortunately dying doesn’t bother me at all. Today in IC, I followed some random group of zergers and saw the “You have killed a Grand Overlord” flash as an achievement — LOL, I must have gotten a couple of hits in somehow. I also got bombed to death more than once.

Fun was had.

That's the best attitude right here. Watch and learn how to enjoy this event instead of being sad and grumpy.

ESO_Nightingale · February 2022

Vrienda wrote: »

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Dude. Pve players have, what, 5+ events a year [snip]

[snip] Join a group, learn a thing or two about pvp and you can handle yourself ina pvp for a couple weeks.

It's twice a year. And then there's the imperial city one separately. Stop pretending PvPers are so hard done by. Ask ZOS for PvP servers if you want to gank people so much in the PvE events.

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Pve gets new content every quarter. The last time pvpers got any content was back when volendrung was added into cyrodiil. Imagine if the situation was reversed. This is one of the few things pvpers have had to look forward to to get and influx of players and make pvp feel more alive.

Hurbster · February 2022

I'm wondering what the split is between strictly pve/pvp populations.

RisenEclipse · February 2022

I don't particularly enjoy PvP that much. I will still do the event, but after like three days im pretty much over it lol But I COMPLETELY disagree with the idea to add PvE things into the Midyear Mayhem event. In fact, I think they should add another PvP event into the game. Literally the PvE players get spoiled with so many PvE focused events. Nearly every month we get something to do. The PvPers get an event a couple times a year, and it's the same event (except IC event, but really the only difference is less things to do and + tel var gain...). This community is made up of both PvE and PvP players, and I think that both should have their fun. So just because PvP isnt your cup of tea doesnt mean that suddenly the event needs to have something for YOU to have fun in. The event isnt for you then, it's for the PvPers. PvPers literally have to do PvE events to get anything. You can at least make up the ticket loss in the next event which is guaranteed to be a PvE event. Can you imagine if the PvP community made such a uproar like the PvE community does for every PvP event that comes out? Just chill and do something else in game until the event is over if you don't want to participate.

BronzeCaiman · February 2022

I will never understand why PvP players actually enjoy an event that forces many PvE players into the zones and game modes for easy kills.

Real PvP players do Duels.

colossalvoids · February 2022

BlackArgonian wrote: »

I will never understand why PvP players actually enjoy an event that forces many PvE players into the zones and game modes for easy kills.

Real PvP players do Duels.

You would be even more puzzled about us pve'ers loving this event.

Punches_Below_Belt · February 2022

My bigger concern is why some weird zealot with a wolf on her head is welcomed into the alliance home bases twice a year. Kind of a sloppy narrative if you ask me.

BronzeCaiman · February 2022

colossalvoids wrote: »

BlackArgonian wrote: »

I will never understand why PvP players actually enjoy an event that forces many PvE players into the zones and game modes for easy kills.

Real PvP players do Duels.

You would be even more puzzled about us pve'ers loving this event.

You´re not wrong. When I want balanced PvP I play shooters, Fortnite has the same skill gap as ESO in terms of PvP, I would know I have played both since release. I like knowing what I´m up against without having to do a ton of research on proc sets. But I will be PvPing in that new card game

Vrienda · February 2022

After careful consideration and two days of the event so far I just want to say.

I completely stick by my OP. Give us a way to not have to do this garbage for event tickets and style pages please.

jaws343 · February 2022

BlackArgonian wrote: »

I will never understand why PvP players actually enjoy an event that forces many PvE players into the zones and game modes for easy kills.

Real PvP players do Duels.

It's more that the event gives players who don't mind PVP an incentive to hop in with the double AP. Less about fighting PVE players and more about attracting PVE/PVP players who don't PVP as often. Makes the fights more robust and the zone more lively. Real PVP players aren't camping the dumb PVE quests in the unmarked towns.

Vrienda wrote: »

After careful consideration and two days of the event so far I just want to say.

I completely stick by my OP. Give us a way to not have to do this garbage for event tickets and style pages please.

Wait until the next event for the tickets. Buy the pages from guild traders from people who actually want the game to provide a mix of event content.

Vrienda · February 2022

I just think it'd be nice if we had an event in a zone that was out of beta testing tbh

jaws343 · February 2022

Vrienda wrote: »

I just think it'd be nice if we had an event in a zone that was out of beta testing tbh

New Life
Witch's Fest
Anniversary Event
Other Anniversary Event
Thieves/DB Event
New Chapter Event (Usually)
Explorers Celebration
Jesters
Undaunted

Heartrage · February 2022

Honestly, I did the quests yesterday and found it easier than some overland quests. 15 minutes to get the three tickets is nothing. And i even dit it on an unoptimized pve healer nightblade alt btw.

Dem_kitkats1 · February 2022

BlackArgonian wrote: »

I will never understand why PvP players actually enjoy an event that forces many PvE players into the zones and game modes for easy kills.

Real PvP players do Duels.

As somone who PvPs more than PvEs I enjoy this event because it adds a lightheartedness and element of fun to the PvP zones that are normally fairly serious in players trying to get achievements, prove their mettle in combat, and is full of sweaties trying to out sweaty eachother. While that's fun and challenging for me, it's nice to have a change in mindset and just enjoy participating in a friendly competition with others who have varying skill.

I'm not out for easy kills, I'll still go for the sweaties to help out inexperienced players, but seeing the zones much more populated and active is really fantastic and why I enjoy these events. Especially in IC, which I usually avoid like the plague. So don't be afraid to go to IC during the event PvErs! Yesterday there were so many players there that I didn't get ganked once. I know the zone is intimidating, but there were a ton of other players there with various skill (not just sweaty nightblades) that if you keep an open mind, you might enjoy it now, and the team play is amazing atm.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · February 2022

These threads are so tiresome. If you want everything the game has to offer, play the whole game. If you dont play the whole game, nothing "entitles" you to the rewards.

I joined a low pop IC campaign as I was queuing for grey host yesterday. I did 6 IC quests in about 25 minutes, so I am set for
tickets for roughly half the event. I got in like 3 fights, and only because I picked them. In Cyro, join a group and grab any of the kill player quests. You can be done in 15 minutes.

Or here is a really crazy idea. Embrace the event and try something new. Funny how I dont see PVPers filling the forums with complaints when there is PVE event (every other event is a PVE event) and we are doing the same half a dozen mindless quests we have been doing for years.

Oh yeah, and I am 90% a PVEer.

Edit: One more thing. There is a mechanism. PVE, grind gold, buy tickets, motifs, whatever you need. A work around does exist.

Darkheart · February 2022

I did my IC quests 2 weeks ago on 2 characters, now i turn in 1 a day and I'm done:)

SilverBride · February 2022

I don't enjoy PvP so I just don't participate in this event. But it absolutely should not have a PvE alternative. Not everything is for everyone and PvPers deserve a PvP focused event.

Folkb · February 2022

I don't bother with these events. I have pvpd plenty in many other MMos and ESO pvp has always sucked to me because of how entirely different of a game it is compared to the pve side.

In order to be even remotely viable in pvp you need to have different attribute allocation, different gear sets, different traits on those gear sets, different skills and morphs and different CP allocation. That all takes valuable time and resources that just aren't worth bothering for two events a year.

FlopsyPrince · February 2022

Vrienda wrote: »

So look, this event is pretty unpopular with PvErs for obvious reasons. The power and skill gap between people who actually PvP and people who just want their damn tickets is immense, which essentially results in frustration for the PvErs forced into these zones that are designed against the way they play the game.

Since I imagine a PvE phase for IC and Cyrodiil is off the table (Why), why not make Whitestrake's Mayhem a celebration of Cyrodiil? Let Gold Coast dailies give 1 ticket that's mutually exclusive with the Battlegrounds/Cyrodiil dailies. And then let Blackwood dailies give 2 tickets that're mutually exclusive with the Imperial City dailies, It's a win/win. PvPers still get to do their thing and PvErs have the option to not have a frustrating daily routine in ESO!

And maybe it'll cause less performance issues in Cyrodiil to boot.

Please

I like to think of this as the "Give PvPers more players to gank" event. That puts things in the correct, if annoying, perspective.

FlopsyPrince · February 2022

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Vrienda wrote: »

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Dude. Pve players have, what, 5+ events a year [snip]

[snip] Join a group, learn a thing or two about pvp and you can handle yourself ina pvp for a couple weeks.

It's twice a year. And then there's the imperial city one separately. Stop pretending PvPers are so hard done by. Ask ZOS for PvP servers if you want to gank people so much in the PvE events.

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Wow, 2 pvp events a year. You know, pvp players are forces to do pve, but not vice versa?

No sympathies, not what so ever

Of course not, though ESO is primarily a PvE game with some PvP elements. You would be highly unlikely (especially from the threads that regularly pop up here) play ESO to only focus on PvP.

The event is not the issue, forcing those who really suck at PvP to participate for the tickets is the problem. Though I don't expect you to ever care.

FlopsyPrince · February 2022

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

But even as a PvP-er - I absolutely hate IC. It is not a fun place at all. It is basically narrow & confined space that promotes only ball groups & group ganking. Ideal place for um.. "Griefers" as it pretty much promotes & rewards it and thus it attracts people that find joy in it.

That is a key point most PvPers replying here forget or overlook.

joseayalac · February 2022

Why make the division between ESO players by tagging them as PVErs or PVPrs? We're all ESO players and I believe most of us enjoy both PVE and PVP.

Stop dividing the community and maybe you could get to enjoy PVP a bit. It's the same game at the end of the day, if you enjoy PVE, it's unlikely you would hate PVP if you gave it a good chance. Put a build together. Also don't be afraid to die.

SirAxen · February 2022

Nah - the people that exclusively PVP (which is odd for ESO for a variety of reasons) should get events as well. Mayhem is meant to encourage people to try a side of the game they normally don't.

Sylvermynx · February 2022

joseayalac wrote: »

Why make the division between ESO players by tagging them as PVErs or PVPrs? We're all ESO players and I believe most of us enjoy both PVE and PVP.

Stop dividing the community and maybe you could get to enjoy PVP a bit. It's the same game at the end of the day, if you enjoy PVE, it's unlikely you would hate PVP if you gave it a good chance. Put a build together. Also don't be afraid to die.

I pvp'd in WoW and RIFT. Hated every minute of it - it wasn't EVER what I call fun. So I have passed on it here and that's not going to change. I go into Cyro (off-event) to fish and buy Dawn Prism; I go to IC base for Hakeijo.

I'm not interested in a pve version of either zone, and I'm not interested in taking your pvp events away from you.