I fired Mirri

RoseTheSnowElf · February 2022

I have a family member in my house who watches me play sometimes and they'll ask why I have Bastian but not Mirri. My only explanation is that me and my character are already full of attitude, I don't really need to be followed around by another character full of attitude.

That's probably why Bastian is a better fit for me. His more upbeat personality is kind of like a counterbalance. But I've started to get into the habit of getting snarky with him and his repeated dialogue;

"what do you think you'll make with that?" (Nothing for you... they won't let me)
"They've made their choices!" (Yes Bastian, that wolf sure made his choices)
"You need to keep moving!" (Really? ... Is that what I'm supposed to be doing?)
"Don't you think that was a bit too much" [when using an ulti to keep him alive] (No Bastian, I don't think it was. You're still alive aren't you?)

I'd be in favor of a silent setting.

DaiKahn · February 2022

I like Mirri and have companion chatter turned to full. The one problem I do see is her responses aren't always situation appropriate. Telling me, "I'm still here, thanks for asking" has no real place, especially at full rapport

Whilst I enjoy the voicing, I do understand people would like a toggle and agree it would be nice to have it added in for those that desire it

spartaxoxo · February 2022

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

For example when you kill a butterfly she says

"There has got to be a better source for your alchemy practice."

Which is passive aggressive to me. Meanwhile Bastian says this when you kill little critters.

"Stop it! That's wasteful and cruel."

Hmm. Whereas I see Bastian's comment as much more annoying. Hooray for subjectiveness!

(well, really, I find the whole "suicidal butterflies & torchbugs throwing themselves at your cursor" thing to be the most annoying aspect.)

To be honest, how easy it is to accidentally grab those bugs is super annoying. I actually think it's cute that Mirri doesn't want to hurt the cute insects but hates fetcherflies. Maybe because I also like Butterflies, lightning bugs, and Lady bugs but not like Worms. So I get it. There's a cuteness heirarchy, lol.

But honestly the targeting in this game in general makes me annoyed, so I don't really blame their characterization for that haha. I'm able to keep those two aspects separate in my head even though they are related and I get why people like Bastian and Mirri less because of it.

Then again it probably helps my most hated targeting difficulties are in pvp and Vateshran Hollows, so I hated targeting in this game way before I got the companions xD

silvereyes · February 2022

Companions as training dummies when?

FluffWit · February 2022

I fired her ass for being useless, the silly little lines didnt really bother me.

drunkendx · February 2022

Another +1 to option to mute companions.

Worst part is that "infrequent" option in setting is not "infrequent" at all, they have maybe one line less per hour compared to "frequent" and that's it.

ellmarie · February 2022

lol, I don't use Mirri anymore. Bastion is a much better aggro for me, but I hate it when he says "are you just going to stand there?", when I wasn't just standing there. But I do miss his "Hello, what's this?" when a heavy sack is near. They got rid of the best thing he said!

Snamyap · February 2022

I don't mind Mirri's snarky remarks. The only line that I find wierd is the "I was tired of walking anyway". That one never seems appropriate, especially when I just summoned her.
But hey, that's why we get multiple companions.

The_Boggart · February 2022

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

fiender66 · February 2022

SilverBride wrote: »

For some reason I find Bastian easier to ignore, maybe because I don't feel like he's taking shots at me. Or it could be because he has a soothing voice and I find Mirri's to be grating. But I'd still like to silence them both.

This.
Bastian's comments are even more lame than Mirri's (and that's a thing), but at least they are less audible.
Being torch bugs free is rather good too.

spartaxoxo · February 2022

ellmarie wrote: »

lol, I don't use Mirri anymore. Bastion is a much better aggro for me, but I hate it when he says "are you just going to stand there?", when I wasn't just standing there. But I do miss his "Hello, what's this?" when a heavy sack is near. They got rid of the best thing he said!

Wait they purposefully removed it? I thought it was a bug.

I miss that.

Milchbart · February 2022

Mojmir wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

I never really saw her comments as passive aggressive, I always saw it as her teasing my character in a snarky but familiar way.

I don't see it as friendly teasing at all. To me it comes across as her being irritated that she has been asked to help out and just one complaint after another.

I don't know why but she reminds me a little of Eveli, which is a huge turn off.

sounds like shes based off lydia and her "sworn too carry your burdens"

But Lydia only talked when you selected dialogue with her.
So did Mjoll, Aela and Illia if I remember correctly ... [snip]

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Snamyap · February 2022

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

That goes for both companions, has nothing to do with Mirri, ranged weapons are just bad on them.

spartaxoxo · February 2022

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

@The_Boggart

Swap to an ice staff and she'll do that wayyyy less.

Snamyap wrote: »

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

That goes for both companions, has nothing to do with Mirri, ranged weapons are just bad on them.

Yeah the only truly usable one is the ice staff imo since it's got a similar roll dodge tolerance as the sword and shield. There are definitely fights tho where ranged is superior because they take too much damage standing near boss

Snamyap · February 2022

spartaxoxo wrote: »

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

@The_Boggart

Swap to an ice staff and she'll do that wayyyy less.

Snamyap wrote: »

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

That goes for both companions, has nothing to do with Mirri, ranged weapons are just bad on them.

Yeah the only truly usable one is the ice staff imo since it's got a similar roll dodge tolerance as the sword and shield. There are definitely fights tho where ranged is superior because they take too much damage standing near boss

A thing I noticed with the ice staff is that she doesn't move into melee range to use close range skills. So unless the gapcloser is up she just uses light attacks if no ranged skills are up.

spartaxoxo · February 2022

Snamyap wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

Swap to an ice staff and she'll do that wayyyy less.

Snamyap wrote: »

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

That goes for both companions, has nothing to do with Mirri, ranged weapons are just bad on them.

Yeah the only truly usable one is the ice staff imo since it's got a similar roll dodge tolerance as the sword and shield. There are definitely fights tho where ranged is superior because they take too much damage standing near boss

A thing I noticed with the ice staff is that she doesn't move into melee range to use close range skills. So unless the gapcloser is up she just uses light attacks if no ranged skills are up.

I have her using ranged skills and back when I didn’t I had been using the gap closer so didn't notice. I'll have to test that out! Thanks for the info.

Snamyap · February 2022

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

Swap to an ice staff and she'll do that wayyyy less.

Snamyap wrote: »

The_Boggart wrote: »

mirri is really annoying,
using a staff she draws aggro, steps back and back and finishes in the middle of another mob

That goes for both companions, has nothing to do with Mirri, ranged weapons are just bad on them.

Yeah the only truly usable one is the ice staff imo since it's got a similar roll dodge tolerance as the sword and shield. There are definitely fights tho where ranged is superior because they take too much damage standing near boss

A thing I noticed with the ice staff is that she doesn't move into melee range to use close range skills. So unless the gapcloser is up she just uses light attacks if no ranged skills are up.

I have her using ranged skills and back when I didn’t I had been using the gap closer so didn't notice. I'll have to test that out! Thanks for the info.

There are surprisingly few ranged damage skills so that is a bummer.

Isaura · February 2022

Yes please, give us the option to mute companions. The lowest dialogue frequency option is a joke, they talk every 30 seconds! I think Bastian sounds ok but I can't take it anymore with Mirri, she is just cringe.

Amottica · February 2022

SilverBride wrote: »

For some reason I find Bastian easier to ignore, maybe because I don't feel like he's taking shots at me. Or it could be because he has a soothing voice and I find Mirri's to be grating. But I'd still like to silence them both.

That is good. I am in the other camp who found Bastion annoying. I could not even deal with him long enough to do all his quests. OMG. lol

To each their own.

Kiralyn2000 · February 2022

silvereyes wrote: »

Companions as training dummies when?

Which reminds me that I put Mirri in a Fargrave Display Case in my Deadlands house. She looks somewhat annoyed.

----

Seriously, though, I'm one of the ones who's not bothered by Mirri out in the world (and she's even using a bow, alongside my bow Nightblade).

But I'm usually not bothered by the characters who bother people in games. I've never killed Heimskyr or Nazeem in Skyrim, I like Moira in Fallout 3, etc. /shrug

(...in this era of remakes & remasters, why haven't they done Fallout 3 yet? Sorry to digress...)

madrab73 · February 2022

Just tbag when they stand in stupid and die again, don't think they can report you

Fennwitty · February 2022

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Companions as training dummies when?

Which reminds me that I put Mirri in a Fargrave Display Case in my Deadlands house. She looks somewhat annoyed.

----

Seriously, though, I'm one of the ones who's not bothered by Mirri out in the world (and she's even using a bow, alongside my bow Nightblade).

But I'm usually not bothered by the characters who bother people in games. I've never killed Heimskyr or Nazeem in Skyrim, I like Moira in Fallout 3, etc. /shrug

(...in this era of remakes & remasters, why haven't they done Fallout 3 yet? Sorry to digress...)

I put Bastian in one also. With a campfire underneath.

And a scorpion.

ArchangelIsraphel · February 2022

Fennwitty wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Companions as training dummies when?

Which reminds me that I put Mirri in a Fargrave Display Case in my Deadlands house. She looks somewhat annoyed.

----

Seriously, though, I'm one of the ones who's not bothered by Mirri out in the world (and she's even using a bow, alongside my bow Nightblade).

But I'm usually not bothered by the characters who bother people in games. I've never killed Heimskyr or Nazeem in Skyrim, I like Moira in Fallout 3, etc. /shrug

(...in this era of remakes & remasters, why haven't they done Fallout 3 yet? Sorry to digress...)

I put Bastian in one also. With a campfire underneath.

And a scorpion.

I totally didn't put Bastian in a cage with his head in the middle of a plate surrounded by cheese...

Not me. Not at all.

*whistles innocently* : D

Zama666 · February 2022

Annoying but hilarious!

I like that they made these characters somewhat testy.

Be nice if we could use our own recordings or have a choice.

Or be more evil "Let's kill them all!" "Yesssss, steal it! I dare you! Pock Pock Pock" - and you get rapport!

Imagine if MIrri started singing? Or rapping?

IT COULD BE WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SilverBride · February 2022

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Which reminds me that I put Mirri in a Fargrave Display Case in my Deadlands house. She looks somewhat annoyed.

Fennwitty wrote: »

I put Bastian in one also. With a campfire underneath.

And a scorpion.

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

I totally didn't put Bastian in a cage with his head in the middle of a plate surrounded by cheese...

Not me. Not at all.

I can't do mean things like that to NPCs. Even if they do irritate me.

Ilsabet · February 2022

ellmarie wrote: »

But I do miss his "Hello, what's this?" when a heavy sack is near. They got rid of the best thing he said!

I've been wondering for a long time why he doesn't let me know about heavy sacks anymore. I'll drag him back and forth right over the top of one, and he doesn't say anything until I loot it. If that was an intentional change, they should change it back 'cause it was real nice.

I like both companions and only get annoyed by a few of their respective lines, and I either tune those out or have a snarky comeback in my head. I mostly use Bastian because he's my main character's headcanon wingman, so I focus on the things I like about him (his idealism, his supportive and encouraging nature, the occasional actually insightful philosophizing, the pent-up rage he unleashes when we're fighting some random scrub) and don't put too much stock in the less enjoyable things (the cringy battle catchphrases, the dad joke puns, yes I'm totally standing still by choice and no I'm not going to eat that gross dungeon bug I just accidentally shot). I also ask him to go somewhere else when I feel like doing crime, so we get along just fine in that regard.

Mirri's passive-aggressive ploys for attention actively irritate me, so I guess that's a strike against her. (I wonder if she realizes that it actually makes her less agreeable when she whines that I'm not validating her enough?) But again, I like her personality as a whole, so I don't mind using her on an alt character who doesn't have Bastian unlocked.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · February 2022

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

She has a real smart mouth then has the nerve to say "I always thought I was agreeable." Well why would you think that?!

Well to be fair, she's snarky but she generally supports what you want to do. She don't really judge stealing or care if someone is an Argonian. Snark is just her sense of humor.

She might not, but my argonian did not like this much.

There wasn't "a few". Neither does my orc like her comments about orcs...

No, Mirri, you're not agreeable. I used to think she was alright but her snippy attitude, need for "agreement", and comments like the one above has made me dislike her. So when I have a companion with me I always take kind and supportive Bastian.

SilverBride · February 2022

"NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote:

No, Mirri, you're not agreeable. I used to think she was alright but her snippy attitude, need for "agreement", and comments like the one above has made me dislike her. So when I have a companion with me I always take kind and supportive Bastian.

She stands around with a hand on her hip a lot, too. Total attitude and very offputting.

sorcmag01 · February 2022

I don't use Mirri anymore, because of her annoying attitude and play style. I use Bastion as a healer every once in a while when I solo a dungeon for stuff I need. I must say, Bastion dies very little and taunts the boss giving me time to recover resources.

Ilsabet · February 2022

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

She has a real smart mouth then has the nerve to say "I always thought I was agreeable." Well why would you think that?!

Well to be fair, she's snarky but she generally supports what you want to do. She don't really judge stealing or care if someone is an Argonian. Snark is just her sense of humor.

She might not, but my argonian did not like this much.

There wasn't "a few". Neither does my orc like her comments about orcs...

I think the saving grace there is that while her first inclination is to minimize the bad things her race has done, which is a fairly understandable defensive maneuver, she immediately recognizes and acknowledges that the problem was a lot bigger than that and it's not really something that's excusable. So she catches herself and doesn't just fall back on the excuse that it was just the Dres and the Telvanni.

Of course, your Argonian is completely justified in finding the whole comment distasteful, but I can at least see a silver lining to it.