Whitestrake's Mayhem PvE alternative?

Vrienda · February 2022

So look, this event is pretty unpopular with PvErs for obvious reasons. The power and skill gap between people who actually PvP and people who just want their damn tickets is immense, which essentially results in frustration for the PvErs forced into these zones that are designed against the way they play the game.

Since I imagine a PvE phase for IC and Cyrodiil is off the table (Why), why not make Whitestrake's Mayhem a celebration of Cyrodiil? Let Gold Coast dailies give 1 ticket that's mutually exclusive with the Battlegrounds/Cyrodiil dailies. And then let Blackwood dailies give 2 tickets that're mutually exclusive with the Imperial City dailies, It's a win/win. PvPers still get to do their thing and PvErs have the option to not have a frustrating daily routine in ESO!

And maybe it'll cause less performance issues in Cyrodiil to boot.

Please

colossalvoids · February 2022

Or just join a group and at least try to enjoy it the way it is? Most quests are pve conten here, you can easily ride to the destination with your alliance and not be even looked into in a process. Not that we have only pvp events and no pve ones, it's quite the contrary.

Gythral · February 2022

Do quests this week, on 15 chars, hand in 1 char per day during event!

Mayrael · February 2022

Just do IC quests already on 2 chars (+ 1 on third) and dont give them away untill even. You can do similar thing with Cyrodiil quests but you will need more than 2/3 chars for the whole event, but still. You can do it pretty easly.

etchedpixels · February 2022

PvP folks have to do far more PvE events than vice versa.

Just be thankful there isn't a fishing event 8)

hafgood · February 2022

You've got enough warning to get in ahead of the event and stack the quests up so you can hand in one a day during the event. Go in off peak and you will have few issues getting them done

Call_of_Red_Mountain · February 2022

How many pvp events we have in ESO? Right... 1. All other events for pve players. As pvp player I feel frustration. Yes. And this time pvp community waiting pvp event too long.

Elsonso · February 2022

I generally skip this event. When I don't, I usually stack up on Town quests and then just turn them in during the event. I have been told there is an IC quest that is easy to cheese, but IC is a pain compared to the town quests.

Edit: Cheydinhal is usually easiest.

Eric_Prince · February 2022

Every damn year...

Just go in Cyro and IC BEFORE the event starts and at the time everyone's asleep, preferably on nightblade char (I have two myself just for that) or with invisibility potions. In Cyro do simple quests in towns, they take 5 minutes at most each. Then do all 6 dailies in IC. If your timing is right, you'll never see anyone there. I prefer to spend just one early morning and then be free for the whole event. Then turn them one at a time.

You'll need no more than 3 chars. Or 2 if you'll skip final day. There. And no need to complain every year. PvPers don't complain when they have to do Undaunted celebration. They don't create threads like "Let us kill team members in dungeons and receive tickets for that!!1111".

Jack-0 · February 2022

Dude, every other ticket event is pve. Also, plenty of people do both pvp and pve. For those pvers that don’t like it, just skip this event then, or buy tickets for your skin with crowns…or take all the above advice, prepare for the event ahead of time in the quiet hours, and just go turn in your quests each day of the event with next to no risk.

Vrienda · February 2022

I'm not saying to remove the PvP aspect people. [snip] You can still gank people in your zones all you want, so long as those people actually want to be there.

[edited for mild profanity bypass]

Indigogo · February 2022

Sure. As long as we get a pvp alternative way to get tickets in every other event. Sounds great.

AcadianPaladin · February 2022

PVE'er here but I've no problem with a couple PvP events a year. There are so many events, you can totally ignore a few if you like. Or, as said above, slip into Cyrodiil and do some dailies before the event. I favor stacking scouting missions on alts before the event starts because turning them in during the event is totally safe. Heck, even doing scouting missions during the event is pretty safe. The key is to remember when you go into Cyrodiil, it is the land of PvP'ers - and their rules apply. Either adapt/adjust or skip the event. That said, I normally get my two Cyrodiil tix a day during the event with zero combat vs other players.

GOAT4EVAR · February 2022

[snip]

I get it, kinda sucks when you dont want to particepate in a certain event but want the tickets anyways. But if we turn that around would'nt it suck just as much for pure pvp'ers that they have to only do pve content to get tickets during the other events? Yes it would.

Here is the thing about a reward. You want it? Go and earn it.
[snip]
[edited for baiting]

Remathilis · February 2022

I liked when WGT and ICP dropped the IC ticket.

dinokstrunz · February 2022

It's a PvP event, it should be and only be about PvP. Based on the requirement for those tickets it doesn't seem you have to PvP much, in fact you could probably avoid fighting and still get your tickets. I don't know why people are worrying about this lol.

Meiox · February 2022

Indigogo wrote: »

Sure. As long as we get a pvp alternative way to get tickets in every other event. Sounds great.

For the PVE events just pretend that every NPC is a PVE-player in cyrodiil, both need the same skill to kill ;-)
Don't you just like the PVP events for the easy kills of PVE-players doing the event quests ?

wolfie1.0. · February 2022

Indigogo wrote: »

Sure. As long as we get a pvp alternative way to get tickets in every other event. Sounds great.

Actually it does. And honestly I support this. Pvp events at the same time as the pve ones.

Olen_Mikko · February 2022

Dude. Pve players have, what, 5+ events a year [snip]

[snip] Join a group, learn a thing or two about pvp and you can handle yourself ina pvp for a couple weeks.

[edited for mild bait]

Indigogo · February 2022

Meiox wrote: »

Indigogo wrote: »

Sure. As long as we get a pvp alternative way to get tickets in every other event. Sounds great.

For the PVE events just pretend that every NPC is a PVE-player in cyrodiil, both need the same skill to kill ;-)
Don't you just like the PVP events for the easy kills of PVE-players doing the event quests ?

False. I like pvp events for ap and extra rewards. I would prefer there were no event tickets linked to it so there wasn't an influx of pve players and I could bathe in 2x ap and low pop in one of the dead campaigns.

Vrienda · February 2022

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Dude. Pve players have, what, 5+ events a year [snip]

[snip] Join a group, learn a thing or two about pvp and you can handle yourself ina pvp for a couple weeks.

It's twice a year. And then there's the imperial city one separately. Stop pretending PvPers are so hard done by. Ask ZOS for PvP servers if you want to gank people so much in the PvE events.

[edited to remove quote]

Brrrofski · February 2022

If we switch pvp on in Summerset and Elsweyr and Blackwood during those events, then sure, I think we have a deal.

9/10 it's PVErs who kill each other in towns. Pvp players are actually playing pvp and don't bother with the towns, unless it's to take it for a spawn point.

Minnesinger · February 2022

Ok yet the event is actually very popular among pvpers and pvers. Just check the populations and added campaigns.

spotzhopz · February 2022

Do we get a pvp alternative to the like 20 PvE events a year? If that was the case I'd say sure, but that's not how it works. You can deal with having to do pvp for the measly 3 events we get for pvp, just like we have to deal with doing PvE for events or gear or just about everything else. Or you could just not do the event

Meiox · February 2022

Brrrofski wrote: »

If we switch pvp on in Summerset and Elsweyr and Blackwood during those events, then sure, I think we have a deal.

9/10 it's PVErs who kill each other in towns. Pvp players are actually playing pvp and don't bother with the towns, unless it's to take it for a spawn point.

You say when a player kills another player in a town they are still doing pve? /s
How have people to play to 'actually playing pvp' ?

Bat · February 2022

No comparison between running FG1 with skips on normal difficulty for event tickets, contra going up against seasoned PVPers as someone who don't usually play PVP.

There is absolutely no comparison, the criticism is absolutely warranted - PVP event feels less like an event for all players, exclusively like an event for PVP players, and furthermore with slight undertones of an event against PVE players, since they will always struggle a lot more than people who do PVP for fun in this game, to get their tickets - the struggle can be much more disheartening and maybe even psychologically damaging than whatever PVPers might feel about running FG1 with skips on normal difficulty for tickets. It would hurt no one if there were PVE instances of Cyrodiil and the Sewers, at least during these events. Literally no one would hurt from it.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2022

The thing I dislike mostly about PvP event is how much desperate ZOS is to populate badly designed zone that is Imperial City. There is a reason why this zone is dead empty 24/7 and even during events it usually ends up with each faction "maining" different IC campaigns...

IC is the only zone in the entire game that gets this much attention when it comes to event tickets (1 zone, but 2 events per year).

I used to love PvP in this game. Cyrodiil used to be awesome. Right now it is plagued with lag & server performance issues & I doubt it will get any better during this event.

But even as a PvP-er - I absolutely hate IC. It is not a fun place at all. It is basically narrow & confined space that promotes only ball groups & group ganking. Ideal place for um.. "Griefers" as it pretty much promotes & rewards it and thus it attracts people that find joy in it.

ShawnLaRock · February 2022

Umm… the 6 IC dailies and 49 Cyrodiil town dailies ARE PVE.

S.

Sylvermynx · February 2022

Fortunately for me, I don't want the skin and probably am not going to want the personality. If it turns out like last year, I won't need anything else as to tickets for the rest of the year.... Now, if the mount and house (assuming they're following last year's system in toto this year) are better than those from last year, that will be different - I'll get tickets in Jester's and Jubilee, plus Witches and New Life end of year for what I want.

I do love being able to skip the pvp stuff.

AlnilamE · February 2022

I did the IC dailies on 2 characters yesterday and I only need one more quest to have IC hand-ins ready for the whole event.

I did get killed a couple of times, but I just rezzed at the base, deposited the dozen Tel Var I had accumulated and continued.

Now I'm going to get Scouting quests in Cyrodiil done on as many characters as possible.

I'm not sure if the FG bounties in Cyrodiil count, but I could grab one of those on characters that have them unlocked and see what happens.

If you have a friend or two, you can also get the "capture a resource" PvP quest and pre-do those. And then just hand them in one per day.

Olen_Mikko · February 2022

Vrienda wrote: »

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Dude. Pve players have, what, 5+ events a year [snip]

[snip] Join a group, learn a thing or two about pvp and you can handle yourself ina pvp for a couple weeks.

It's twice a year. And then there's the imperial city one separately. Stop pretending PvPers are so hard done by. Ask ZOS for PvP servers if you want to gank people so much in the PvE events.

[edited to remove quote]

Wow, 2 pvp events a year. You know, pvp players are forces to do pve, but not vice versa?

No sympathies, not what so ever