There is an MMR indeed in this game, if your game queues are usually long like 15-20 minute queues, chances are you have high MMR. If you can quick quick 90% of the time, your mmr might be lower. But the problem with MMR is people will smurf and do poorly or run new characters with lower MMR and dominate BGs that way.

I see PvE players doing the daily XP quest getting matched against TF Hammer and his 5 million damage Azureblight build.

Not many players at 3am so you play with anyone queued. It's kind of not fair.

happyed wrote: »

in a full build i got from the web.

Builds are like a blueprint for a house. It might tell you where everything goes, but owning a blueprint and actually putting it together is a completely different skill.

Using another player's builds that gets them success =/= your success.

CombatHammer on pcna is consistently netting 5-6M+ dmg in a bg match and I'd bet everything I own that 98% of players that might try and copy it will go 0-9 with 1M dmg done.

No build will play the game for you.

Perhaps the big issue for me then is that, unlike PVE where you practice and practice until you can kill stuff cleanly and even the super hard bosses you faced at level 25 are trivial at cp1000 when you know the mechanics blindfolded. i have been going into the BG matches with a build and some skillz but no real understanding or practice using them - hoping to practice on equally bad players until i get better. The instant cc's sure felt like i was playing against MUCH better players. In hind sight, i guess that might be because stamina 2h/dw builds do require being closer than mag or bow builds...

But i was picking half dead targets... and was instantly cc'ed and killed on a stamblade after stampeding in - in the past i did much better on a mag warden when staying at range. Perhaps the try to survive at all costs while staying in the engagement approach + some practice on the skillz in PVE might help. Ill try that.

Thx for the responses.

( still frustrated - especially with cyrodil: where solo seems a total waste of time - and no lfg tool so you are always solo - joined a guild that does some pvp grouping and will see... )

Hang in there OP! We've all been there. When I first started PvP in this game I wanted to quit many times as well. The learning curve is definitely steep and the MMR can be very unfriendly at times depending on how much you play and what time of day. Keep grinding for you'll get more comfortable with the environment and you'll play better in time. Don't worry about kills they will come with practice. We are also in a healing meta so getting kills as a solo or as a small group can be difficult, even for experienced players at the moment. I see that players have already given you some good advice, so I'll just add a couple of more tips from my own experience.

As others have said, online build guides can be helpful in showing you what kinds of sets players are running, but they definitely don't work for everyone. If you still want to try them out, make sure you understand how the sets work as they require different ways to proc them (some use heavy attacks as a way to proc, some need damage over time abilities, some require you to stack damage on enemies, etc). As a new player, I would recommend trying sets that are easier to proc and require less thought. The more you play, you'll begin to figure out the playstyles you like (maybe you like to have high mobility, or be more tanky, or a ranged build works well for, etc). Once you hone into the playstyle that works the best for you, you'll find the sets that will give you the best way to achieve that.

I also found that some sets that worked well in Cyrodiil, were lack luster in BGs. So you may need to swap some monster sets or mythics depending on what kind of PvP you're doing. As other's have suggested, it's better to have more resistances in Cyro, as lag can be a killer, so Pariah is definitely a great set for that as other's have suggested. I, personally, find that high mobility is also a great form a defense, especially in BGs. It allows you to quickly get out of fights if you need to, or players have a more difficult time in targeting you. But, again, that will come down to your playstyle.

If you're still feeling frustrated or overwhelmed, I've heard other players say that starting out as more of a support role (like a healer) really helped them get a good feel for PvP in this game as well. This allowed players to learn how to be defensive without the pressure to get kills on top of that. It also allowed new players to better observe what made others successful in the game.

Also a common rules nowdays - team with a healer wins. Team with the most dk wins. Team with most bowmen loose. On higher MMR you can make an educated guess who will win after you check team composition even before start..