Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Foto1 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

kwinter wrote: »

Am not sure how much it would lore breaking to have Moamer when we already have the fact any race can fight for any fraction.

Because the races of Tamriel can be found all over Tamriel. There are bosmer born in Skyrim, Argonians in Valenwood, khajiit in High Rock etc. They aren't a hive mind restricted to their province, and would likely fight for their home, not a place they have never been to and their race, which they might know very little about, comes from.

Maormer on the other hand are from Pyandonea with a very few exceptions (which were still likely born in Pyandonea).
Imagine doing all the quests with maormer like those in Khenarthi's Roost, Auridon, Summerset, Malabal Tor etc as a maormer and no one reacts to that.

There are Maormer Dragonguard and the quest where the Maomer and her lover realize they can't remain in Summerset, also ends with them deciding to settle elsewhere in Tamriel.

Like all other races of people, the Maomer are not a monolith. There is admittedly very few of them in the lore, but they are not non-existent. And canonically there is only ONE vestige. So lorewise, there would NOT be a bunch of Maomer running around. There would be ONE running around who lives in Tamriel, which is rare but not unheard of.

They would just need to add a few hostile lines of dialogue in High Elf areas and that's about it to make it work, lore wise.

The real reason it won't happen is because there's no way the first new race in ages isn't gonna be part of the single player game first, if it ever happens at all.

yes, only one vestige. but other players are still there, they have not disappeared into the void

They haven't disappeared into the void, but they won't be the ones doing the quests. They won't be the ones helping the Queen or stopping this or that. Only the Vestige.

So YOU might have the perception there's a bunch of Maormer doing Dominion stuff because you know that those players are participating in quests and such. But in the lore, they aren't doing any of that. They are just random faceless adventurers milling up about in the wilds. So from a lore perspective, there would not be a bunch of Maormer helping the Dominion. There'd be a singular one. YOU.

The player's personal lore and the canon lore are different things in this game, always has been. All of our stories are simultaneously canon and not canon lore. But our personal lore shouldn't be mistaken for canon, in terms of lore breaking it's only the canonical things that can make or break it. As that is the stuff that will carry on to the next game. And in canon, there's already a rare few Maomer that reside in Tamriel and come to it's aide.

In canon there is only one Vestige. In canon, there is a chain of events that built on each other. In our personal canon, things may have happened in entirely different orders. Or they may be a lot of adventurers who weren't just faceless guys that time forgot, but friends that we'll never forget. ETC ETC.

You keep saying this but all players can become emperor of cyrodiil and having a non Tamriel native emperor would be a BIG deal. As would a maomer saving the aldemeri dominion or any of the other accomplishments the vestige does.

Do you think if an akavri became emperor it would not become a wtf moment for all three factions, much less a maomer becoming one. I would bet if a maomer became emperor all the factions would immediately stop fighting and team up to destroy all of the maomer even in their own homeland. It would be THAT big of a deal.

And Imagine a maomer just WALKING into Alinor, they are not going to stop and say “Oh it’s ok that guy is the vestige” and just act normally. They would be asking what was that one doing here while standing around it’s corpse.

At least if the player was a daedra they may last a few seconds longer, even if the those moments were just the guards reviving from initial shock.

Pretty sure that when we capture cyrodiil we are in fact taking cyrodiil for our alliance therefore putting our alliance leader on the throne, emperors dont bow down to kings and queens and since we are part of their military they are our king or queen

Even if everyone in alinor tried to kiil the vestige, he would simply reapear a few seconds later so they would give up after a few times

BlueRaven wrote: »

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Foto1 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

kwinter wrote: »

Am not sure how much it would lore breaking to have Moamer when we already have the fact any race can fight for any fraction.

Because the races of Tamriel can be found all over Tamriel. There are bosmer born in Skyrim, Argonians in Valenwood, khajiit in High Rock etc. They aren't a hive mind restricted to their province, and would likely fight for their home, not a place they have never been to and their race, which they might know very little about, comes from.

Maormer on the other hand are from Pyandonea with a very few exceptions (which were still likely born in Pyandonea).
Imagine doing all the quests with maormer like those in Khenarthi's Roost, Auridon, Summerset, Malabal Tor etc as a maormer and no one reacts to that.

There are Maormer Dragonguard and the quest where the Maomer and her lover realize they can't remain in Summerset, also ends with them deciding to settle elsewhere in Tamriel.

Like all other races of people, the Maomer are not a monolith. There is admittedly very few of them in the lore, but they are not non-existent. And canonically there is only ONE vestige. So lorewise, there would NOT be a bunch of Maomer running around. There would be ONE running around who lives in Tamriel, which is rare but not unheard of.

They would just need to add a few hostile lines of dialogue in High Elf areas and that's about it to make it work, lore wise.

The real reason it won't happen is because there's no way the first new race in ages isn't gonna be part of the single player game first, if it ever happens at all.

yes, only one vestige. but other players are still there, they have not disappeared into the void

They haven't disappeared into the void, but they won't be the ones doing the quests. They won't be the ones helping the Queen or stopping this or that. Only the Vestige.

So YOU might have the perception there's a bunch of Maormer doing Dominion stuff because you know that those players are participating in quests and such. But in the lore, they aren't doing any of that. They are just random faceless adventurers milling up about in the wilds. So from a lore perspective, there would not be a bunch of Maormer helping the Dominion. There'd be a singular one. YOU.

The player's personal lore and the canon lore are different things in this game, always has been. All of our stories are simultaneously canon and not canon lore. But our personal lore shouldn't be mistaken for canon, in terms of lore breaking it's only the canonical things that can make or break it. As that is the stuff that will carry on to the next game. And in canon, there's already a rare few Maomer that reside in Tamriel and come to it's aide.

In canon there is only one Vestige. In canon, there is a chain of events that built on each other. In our personal canon, things may have happened in entirely different orders. Or they may be a lot of adventurers who weren't just faceless guys that time forgot, but friends that we'll never forget. ETC ETC.

You keep saying this but all players can become emperor of cyrodiil and having a non Tamriel native emperor would be a BIG deal. As would a maomer saving the aldemeri dominion or any of the other accomplishments the vestige does.

Do you think if an akavri became emperor it would not become a wtf moment for all three factions, much less a maomer becoming one. I would bet if a maomer became emperor all the factions would immediately stop fighting and team up to destroy all of the maomer even in their own homeland. It would be THAT big of a deal.

And Imagine a maomer just WALKING into Alinor, they are not going to stop and say “Oh it’s ok that guy is the vestige” and just act normally. They would be asking what was that one doing here while standing around it’s corpse.

At least if the player was a daedra they may last a few seconds longer, even if the those moments were just the guards reviving from initial shock.

Pretty sure that when we capture cyrodiil we are in fact taking cyrodiil for our alliance therefore putting our alliance leader on the throne, emperors dont bow down to kings and queens and since we are part of their military they are our king or queen

Even if everyone in alinor tried to kiil the vestige, he would simply reapear a few seconds later so they would give up after a few times

Your alliance leader is not getting the emperor achievement, the player is. The player gets the costume, access to the furniture, and the powers that come with it as well. When an emperor gets overthrown, the players name is there NOT the faction leaders.

The achievement's text reads:

"Dominate the Alliance War battlefield and become Emperor of Tamriel. Long may you reign!"

cmetzger93 wrote: »

My god I hope not. I really wish people would stop asking for a new race. It would be so lore breaking and silly