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You're seriously leaving Dark Convergence in this game for ball groups?
EmperorIl
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You said this set was designed to disrupt ball groups, but all you did was give them a tool to farm everyone with. You don't even have time to break free and blocking will not save you from their entire group bursting on you the second you are pulled in. And of course they lag you out so you have zero chance.
[snip] Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
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Edited by ZOS_Lunar on January 13, 2022 1:55PM [snip] Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
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Kwoung✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You said this set was designed to disrupt ball groups, but all you did was give them a tool to farm everyone with. You don't even have time to break free and blocking will not save you from their entire group bursting on you the second you are pulled in. And of course they lag you out so you have zero chance.
Do you care at ALL about Cyrodiil ZOS? Because it's a pathetic showing right now if you do. Trolls and ball groups use this set, period. Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
Just to be clear, they put this set in to fight zerg's, not ball groups. It even said that in the patch notes when they released it. It is still a trash set that needs to go away though.
Edited by Kwoung on January 13, 2022 2:37AM6 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭You said this set was designed to disrupt ball groups, but all you did was give them a tool to farm everyone with. You don't even have time to break free and blocking will not save you from their entire group bursting on you the second you are pulled in. And of course they lag you out so you have zero chance.
Do you care at ALL about Cyrodiil ZOS? Because it's a pathetic showing right now if you do. Trolls and ball groups use this set, period. Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
Just to be clear, they put this set in to fight zerg's, not ball groups. It even said that in the patch notes when they released it. It is still a trash set that needs to go away though.
Ball groups are zergs though. I would argue they are more like a hive mind then a bunch a solo players banding together into a mass.I wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
As you lay upon the ground, cry not little pawn.
The pain will pass as quickly as my blade did take you,
but my delight will last and you will respawn.
My heart simply cannot contain my joy, when I ply my trade.
The fault lies with you, your skill was lacking.
Now your salt is mine forever, can't you hear the laughing?
Once you were so proud and now you are reduced to this.
A miserable, loud deuced fool.
With every tear you drip, with every excuse you let slip.
All of your insecurities and worries bring a smile to my lip.
From your despair I have ripped endless glories,
but our affair is over now. Be afraid for I will return for more.
I have received many titles, to my allies I am The sniper Emperor and Grand champion hero of the Pact. However these titles mean little to me, it is the ones given to me by my victims that I prefer. To them I am "Xv1er", "trash", "no balls", "zerger", "noob", "cringe", "no skill", "camper", "100% new", "the reason this game is dying", "pathetic", "a sack of piece of [snip]", "mediocre", "absolute inbred", "beyond a virgin", "ganky dork", "fat smelly 40yr old virgin", "little girl", "daddy", "exploiting loser", and every [snipped] word known to man.6 -
guarstompemoji✭✭✭✭xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »
Ball groups are zergs though. I would argue they are more like a hive mind then a bunch a solo players banding together into a mass.
They're the PvE trials group solution to PvP.
They:
o Practice multiple times a week
o Have defined sets for each "role"
o Have defined skills for each "role"
o Practice strats and comms coordination
o Attempt to move as a team/unit8 -
Kwoung✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »You said this set was designed to disrupt ball groups, but all you did was give them a tool to farm everyone with. You don't even have time to break free and blocking will not save you from their entire group bursting on you the second you are pulled in. And of course they lag you out so you have zero chance.
Do you care at ALL about Cyrodiil ZOS? Because it's a pathetic showing right now if you do. Trolls and ball groups use this set, period. Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
Just to be clear, they put this set in to fight zerg's, not ball groups. It even said that in the patch notes when they released it. It is still a trash set that needs to go away though.
Ball groups are zergs though. I would argue they are more like a hive mind then a bunch a solo players banding together into a mass.
Ummm... no they aren't, not even slightly in the same class. To use real life examples...
Ball Group = Special Forces team ranging from the US Army Rangers to Seal Team 6 in skill level (max size 12 players, sometimes less)
Coordinated Group = Regular Army / Marines (max size 12 players, usually less)
Zerg = Pitchfork carrying mob (usual size 30-60 players)Edited by Kwoung on January 13, 2022 3:06AM9 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »You said this set was designed to disrupt ball groups, but all you did was give them a tool to farm everyone with. You don't even have time to break free and blocking will not save you from their entire group bursting on you the second you are pulled in. And of course they lag you out so you have zero chance.
Do you care at ALL about Cyrodiil ZOS? Because it's a pathetic showing right now if you do. Trolls and ball groups use this set, period. Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
Just to be clear, they put this set in to fight zerg's, not ball groups. It even said that in the patch notes when they released it. It is still a trash set that needs to go away though.
Ball groups are zergs though. I would argue they are more like a hive mind then a bunch a solo players banding together into a mass.
Ummm... no they aren't, not even slightly in the same class.
To use real life examples...
Ball Group = Special Forces team ranging from the US Army Rangers to Seal Team 6 in skill level (max size 12 players, sometimes less)
Coordinated Group = Regular Army / Marines (max size 12 players, usually less)
Zerg = Pitchfork carrying mob (usual size 30-60 players)
Zerg is a hivemind alien and ball groups are a hivemind pvp group. Literally the same thing.
Solo players and gankers are the seal team 6 of eso.I wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
As you lay upon the ground, cry not little pawn.
The pain will pass as quickly as my blade did take you,
but my delight will last and you will respawn.
My heart simply cannot contain my joy, when I ply my trade.
The fault lies with you, your skill was lacking.
Now your salt is mine forever, can't you hear the laughing?
Once you were so proud and now you are reduced to this.
A miserable, loud deuced fool.
With every tear you drip, with every excuse you let slip.
All of your insecurities and worries bring a smile to my lip.
From your despair I have ripped endless glories,
but our affair is over now. Be afraid for I will return for more.
I have received many titles, to my allies I am The sniper Emperor and Grand champion hero of the Pact. However these titles mean little to me, it is the ones given to me by my victims that I prefer. To them I am "Xv1er", "trash", "no balls", "zerger", "noob", "cringe", "no skill", "camper", "100% new", "the reason this game is dying", "pathetic", "a sack of piece of [snip]", "mediocre", "absolute inbred", "beyond a virgin", "ganky dork", "fat smelly 40yr old virgin", "little girl", "daddy", "exploiting loser", and every [snipped] word known to man.1 -
Kwoung✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »You said this set was designed to disrupt ball groups, but all you did was give them a tool to farm everyone with. You don't even have time to break free and blocking will not save you from their entire group bursting on you the second you are pulled in. And of course they lag you out so you have zero chance.
Do you care at ALL about Cyrodiil ZOS? Because it's a pathetic showing right now if you do. Trolls and ball groups use this set, period. Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
Just to be clear, they put this set in to fight zerg's, not ball groups. It even said that in the patch notes when they released it. It is still a trash set that needs to go away though.
Ball groups are zergs though. I would argue they are more like a hive mind then a bunch a solo players banding together into a mass.
Ummm... no they aren't, not even slightly in the same class.
To use real life examples...
Ball Group = Special Forces team ranging from the US Army Rangers to Seal Team 6 in skill level (max size 12 players, sometimes less)
Coordinated Group = Regular Army / Marines (max size 12 players, usually less)
Zerg = Pitchfork carrying mob (usual size 30-60 players)
Zerg is a hivemind alien and ball groups are a hivemind pvp group. Literally the same thing.
Solo players and gankers are the seal team 6 of eso.
How exactly is a solo player a "team"? Anyways, whatever, you are mixing terms like so many do to meet their own ends. Most people know the difference between a zerg and a ball group, as does ZOS, and they specifically mentioned combating zergs when they released the set. Plaguebreaker was to combat ball groups because ZOS felt stopping them from spamming purge would have some sort of effect, which it didn't on Ball groups, but it is an awesome zerg killing set as well now.Edited by Kwoung on January 13, 2022 3:17AM1 -
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Einstein_✭✭✭guarstompemoji wrote: »xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »
Ball groups are zergs though. I would argue they are more like a hive mind then a bunch a solo players banding together into a mass.
They're the PvE trials group solution to PvP.
They:
o Practice multiple times a week
o Have defined sets for each "role"
o Have defined skills for each "role"
o Practice strats and comms coordination
o Attempt to move as a team/unit
exactly this, me as a somebody who plays in a know ballgroup on PC/EU can tell you its not the set which makes us strong.
if you ask me, we would be even better without this set, it disturbs our movement and gameplay as much as the PuGs.
so go on remove the set, ballgroups will be happy too, the only once who get crippeled are range bombers and smalescalers.0 -
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✭xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »You said this set was designed to disrupt ball groups, but all you did was give them a tool to farm everyone with. You don't even have time to break free and blocking will not save you from their entire group bursting on you the second you are pulled in. And of course they lag you out so you have zero chance.
Do you care at ALL about Cyrodiil ZOS? Because it's a pathetic showing right now if you do. Trolls and ball groups use this set, period. Pulling off walls, luring people into a ultimate, and ball groups. You took bad things AND MADE THEM WORSE! Not better. This set only serves the few, the rest of us are just fodder for their enjoyment. The rest of us pay money to support this game too. Do something about this ridiculous set NOW.
Just to be clear, they put this set in to fight zerg's, not ball groups. It even said that in the patch notes when they released it. It is still a trash set that needs to go away though.
Ball groups are zergs though. I would argue they are more like a hive mind then a bunch a solo players banding together into a mass.
Don't agree. Ball groups are far more organized than a normal zerg. Most people in zergs are just surfing and following the 20 man group, that's not the case with ball groups. Most are on coms, coordinating, and everything it's not people surfing the group and doing well. Why do you think most bomb clips are disorganized zergs caught with their pants down? None of them are actually organized and lots are just zerg-surfing. Meanwhile with ball groups they can farm keeps for hours if people kept pushing them and not effectively be combatted, because they're organized unlike your normal zerg.Solo PvP'er PS5 NA player
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✭✭✭xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »Zerg is a hivemind alien and ball groups are a hivemind pvp group. Literally the same thing.
Solo players and gankers are the seal team 6 of eso.
How can you be solo and part of a team at the same time? They aren't the Navy Seal Solos, they're the Navy Seal Team.
Ball groups are the Protoss, quality versus quantity. Zergs overwhelm with numbers, and tactical coordination is not what comes to mind when talking about a swarm of Zergs.
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EmperorIl✭✭✭✭Who cares, the set is stupid and it needs to go away. Pulling off walls is enough to make it happen. You can't even defend.4
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✭✭✭✭✭Ball Groups are more like Protoss death balls. They're super durable, super tough, and in the hands of a skilled player invincible without advanced counter tactics. Even shows that in the cinematics with them facing off outnumbered against the Zerg.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭The issue with Dark Convergence is that the fix to it didn't fully it fix it. It still pulls you when you are at least 5m outside of its radius and it can still pull you off walls. Both of those issues have not been fully resolved. Fixing those would make the set better in PVP from my experience. I don't die at all from DC anymore, other than the wall pull which is fall damage not DC killing me.0
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