yes, only because "my immersion" - as cheesy as that sounds sometimes, it's hard to feel like I'm needed when they could just send this super guard out to do any quest they ask me to do.

I liked what they did in Fable - just keep sending more and more guards after you the more you kill and just keep driving up your bounty PLUS give you no benefit to killing them (no xp or drops). They could even add a temporary town ban if you killed enough of them in one area - not a IRL type ban, but an in-game one where you'd get auto attacked for going there even if you cleared your bounty gold wise.

Kwoung wrote: »

Killing guards is simply showing off, other games allow it and it serves no purpose than some max level well geared player going into town to show how "uber" they are. As for your suggestion, I just see a bunch of griefing by filling up a town with guards, much akin to the opposite, which is creating huge piles of fast spawning mobs dead bodies.

This

I mean there is opportunity for some kind of bounty hunter system. What if after a certain level of bounty the whole world effectively becomes PvP for you. And players that take you out get bounty rewards. I mean this could only work if guards weren’t invincible.

Though I would like the guards act in a way like this and that you could see it.

https://imgur.com/8mcQQi7

No, I don't want the cities to become a battlegrounds or a sort of a vet dungeon branches for the bored players to show off. I'm already fed up with the dead citizens on the streets (ore even more horrifying, citizens standing on their own dead bodies) - I don't want the players to litter the ground with guards as well.

Sheridan wrote: »

No, I don't want the cities to become a battlegrounds or a sort of a vet dungeon branches for the bored players to show off. I'm already fed up with the dead citizens on the streets (ore even more horrifying, citizens standing on their own dead bodies) - I don't want the players to litter the ground with guards as well.

This is how I see it too. Well said Sheridan.

xaraan wrote: »

yes, only because "my immersion" - as cheesy as that sounds sometimes, it's hard to feel like I'm needed when they could just send this super guard out to do any quest they ask me to do.

I liked what they did in Fable - just keep sending more and more guards after you the more you kill and just keep driving up your bounty PLUS give you no benefit to killing them (no xp or drops). They could even add a temporary town ban if you killed enough of them in one area - not a IRL type ban, but an in-game one where you'd get auto attacked for going there even if you cleared your bounty gold wise.

That's ok in a single-player game because there's only ever going to be 1 person at a time doing it. Things like that get problematic when you add hundreds of other players.

For a start if each player fighting guards spawns more guards then multiple people fighting guards in the same area could very quickly overwhelm the server with the number of guards it would need to spawn and then it crashes. Before that point you have towns which are just battle grounds full of guards and corpses, it would be even more of a mess than duelling, especially for those players who care about immersion.

MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »

I mean there is opportunity for some kind of bounty hunter system. What if after a certain level of bounty the whole world effectively becomes PvP for you. And players that take you out get bounty rewards. I mean this could only work if guards weren’t invincible.

ZOS tried to develop a system like that but found it was impossible to come up with a version that wouldn't be exploited by players, either taking turns farming each other or simply griefing other players by camping locations like the entrance to thieves dens to attack anyone going in or out.

No, there's no need to, since escaping them is not too difficult, and it's a cool mechanic that they are invinsible so basically all you can do is run or get wrecked. There was a group of players back in the day who iirc tried to make an organized attack on a guard to see how far they could go, but there was a mechanic were they all exploded, or something like that, by taking million points of damage

Yes!
This is a game, and less limited is much better is!
Also with all those NPC's which are untouchble

All I hear with things like “justice rework” is we want open world pvp in all zones. If you are unhappy with Cyrodiil and IC how about asking for improvements there. I have no clue why they haven’t played with lowering pop caps if their servers are not able to handle the load, you may lose the massive bit but clearly what they are doing isn’t working.

Pvp and Pve builds are entirely different which is why the pvp types love Mid Year Mayhem, allowing them to just flag up by attacking a guard or npc then jump into a world boss and kill anyone unfortunate enough to hit them by proximity would not be a good thing. Look at all the dlc and weigh the ones tailored to pvp and pve, they seem to know what works.

No. I love to watch players getting their a** handed to them by guards.

No, it's part of the games DNA.....but stealing from them is fun

oh [snip]! I voted for the losing side

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