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New life event and the cost of crafting

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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Hi,

Just thought I'd let management know that the cost of crafting materials is not worth the effort of doing the new life 'deep winter' charity.
I don't know how newer players are going to get around this without some frustrations.

Some of the quests require (12 craftable objects)....is this an event or a push to spend our gold?
  • Sylvermynx
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    I've never done those in all the years I've played. I need my housing crafting mats for ME - and believe me, 1 voucher isn't enough to get me to part with those mats.
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I've never done those in all the years I've played. I need my housing crafting mats for ME - and believe me, 1 voucher isn't enough to get me to part with those mats.

    Yeah, agreed.

    Just a bit mind boggling to me. I hope I'm not the only one.

    Oh well, *continues to truck on.*
  • seecodenotgames
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    I just did the provisioning ones. You only have to craft things like roast chicken which is a one item (green) food recipe. The blacksmithing ones are a lot cheaper than woodworking, but less so than provisioning.

    Also people are doing it for the skin and achievement, not the writ vouchers.
    Edited by seecodenotgames on December 17, 2021 4:47PM
    Houses on PC EU (newest first)
    70. Shadow Queen's Library (Shadow Queen's Labyrinth) - A forgotten library in the Evergloam
    69. Bank of Necrom (Emissary's Enclave) - A second bank in Necrom has opened for customers to store their treasures
    68. Aldmeri Mansion (Seabloom Villa) - The luxury home as an Altmer family
    67. Dawnwood Village (Gladesong Arboretum) - A village built into a new forest
    66. Undaunted Fortress (Mournoth Keep) - The undaunted have moved into these Orcish Towers
    65. Wedding at Sea (The Fair Winds) - Have a lovely wedding ceremony at sea and relax in the bridal suite in the Captain's Quarters
    64. Alikr Oasis Paradise (Sword-singer's Redoubt) - This grand home was built above a deep well to commemorate their ancestors
    63. Azandar's Tea House (Kelesan Ruhn) - A tea shop/cafe in the shape of a life-sized teapot
    62. Sand Castles (Fogbreak Lighthouse) - A literal life size sand castle
    61. Riften Meadery (Old Mistveil Manor) - A new meadery has opened outside Riften
    60. Helene's Writing Room (Golden Gryphon Garret) - A small room for Helene to get some quiet writing time
    59. Picnic at Pelin (Black Vine Villa) - Based on the lore book Picnic at Pelin (A Horror Story)
    58. Almalexias Temple (Forsaken Stronghold) - A Dunmer Tower with a shrine to the three
    57. Pirate New Life For Me (Highhallow Hold) - A pirate tavern where they gift you loot
    56. Woodvine Cathedral (Agony's Ascent) - A living cathedral thriving in the Deadlands
    55. Dark Elf Town House (Quondam Indorilia) - A small and cosy town house on the edge of Mournhold
    54. The Secret Tower (Exorcised Coven Cottage) - A hidden mage tower in the swamps on the Hag Fen
    53. Knight Club (Frostvault Chasm) - A disco in a dwarven mineshaft
    52. Dwemer Cave City (The Erstwhile Sanctuary) - A lost dwarven city has been found deep underground
    51. Alinor Gryphon Aerie (Colossal Aldmeri Grotto) - A place where gryphons are trained
    50. The Charred Towers (Doomchar Plateau) - Deadlands themed fortress with two towers and custom furniture
    49. Argonian Sea Town (Tel Galen) - An Argonian sea port
    48. Daedric Princess Tower (Seaveil Spire) - An underwater tower dedicated to the Daedric Prince Meridia
    47. Fargrave Observatory (Ossa Accentium) - An observatory in the portal realm of Fargrave
    46. Hundings Beach House (Hundings Palatial Hall) - Beach house and hottub
    45. Crystal Gardens (Snugpod) - Enchanted Gardens with crystalline trees
    44. Dawnlight Health Spa (Princely Dawnlight Palace) - Our spa waters are revitalising and ready to heal your aching body
    43. Mountainside Retreat (Pariah's Pinnacle) - An orc mountainside hall with an amazing view
    42. Volcanic Vile Villa (Kushalit Sanctuary) - A private hollowed out volcano for all your mad alchemist needs
    41. Arenthian Water Temple (Strident Springs Demesne) - A relaxing water temple outside Arenthia
    40. Woodland Cottage (Ald Velothi Harbor House) - A house in a tree, but not a treehouse
    39. Winter Snow Meadhall (Enchanted Snow Globe Home) - A winter meadhall has opened to get everyone in the festive mood
    38. Fire and Ice Hotel (Elinhir Private Arena) - An new hotel has opened with an ice bar and a lava room
    37. City of Princes (Pantherfang Chapel) - Citadese is under attack from a dragon invasion. Prince Tarvia is leading the escape through the sewers.
    36. Dark Brotherhood Home (Stay-Moist Mansion) - A Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary found beneath an Argonian village
    35. Volkihar Courtyard (Velothi Reverie) - A castle courtyard modelled on the famous Volkihar Castle in Skyrim
    34. Rada's Summer Getaway (Potentate's Retreat) - A Redguard mansion with a dark vampiric secret in the basement
    33. Cascadia Wine N Dine (Sweetwater Cascades) - Vineyard and meadery with two restaurants and a chapel
    32. Walled Kitchen Garden (Amaya Lake Lodge) - Fresh produce and cut flowers for sale. Hot food served in a family restaurant.
    31. Luckycat Summerhouse (Lucky Cat Landing) - A khajiiti villa with spa and dining
    30. Helene's Boutique (Water's Edge) - The famous dressmaker has opened a new dress shop in town
    29. Alinor Garden Party (Mathiisen Manor) - A party in the flower gardens of a Altmer noble's manor
    28. Markarth Bath House (Stone Eagle Aerie) - A relaxing spa and bath house with an arts and craft centre
    27. Treeboat house (The Gorinir Estate) - No one know how an imperial ship ended up in the treetops
    26. Varlaisvea College (Varlaisvea Ayleid Ruins) - An ancient library has been discovered deep inside an Ayleid ruin
    25. City on the Moon (The Orbservatory Prior) - Moonbase with housing and an inn under the stars
    24. Lakemire Water Gardens (Lakemire Xanmeer Manor) - Relaxing hanging gardens and a fish restaurant beneath the Xanmeer
    23. Hircine's Hunt Club (Hunters Glade) - A relaxing villa for werewolves to feast in the ever refilling hunting grounds
    22. Lost Dwarven Kingdom (Shalidor’s Shrouded Realm) - A lost Dwemer king's palace has been found in a mage's pocket realm
    21. Replaced with 54. The Secret Tower
    20. Topal Fishing Resort (Grand Topal Hideaway) - A resort in the middle of a fishing lake on a private island
    19. Castleton Manor (Alinor Crest Townhouse) - The home of Lord Castleton and his daughter Sonja
    18. Cave of BBQ N Ribs (Earthtear Cavern) - A secret rocky dome, hosts a BBQ and ribs restaurant
    17. Who Lived in a Shoe (The Ample Domicile) - There was an old reach witch who lived in a shoe
    16. Dwemer Party Tower (Hall of the Lunar Champion - Lion's Cradle) - A dwarven flying tower repurposed for parties
    15. A Taste of Alinor (Sleek Creek House) - A small piece of Alinor beside a creek
    14. Lava Submarine Base (Bastion Sanguinaris) - An evil vampire alchemy lab, accessible only via a lava submarine
    13. Spirit-tree Library (Wraithhome) - A library built atop an ancient forest within an ancient Daedric ruin
    12. Golden Beach Palace (Thieves' Oasis) - A dwarven inspired Redguard beach resort
    11. Mad Scientists House (Cyrodilic Jungle House) - Workshop and garage with an experimental De-lore-ean
    10. Big Toy House (Antiquarian's Alpine Gallery) - Two life sized doll's houses and a inn beneath the stairs
    9. Icy Falls Inn (Forgemaster Falls) - Two Nord lodges on a lake, serving mead and fresh fish
    8. Blue-ice Palace (Stillwaters Retreat) - Solitude, but on a frozen lake
    7. Mushroom Manor (Coldharbour Surreal Estate) - Dunmer house built from giant mushrooms
    6. Vampire Academy with wine bar (Daggerfall Overlook) - Come for the nibbles; stay for eternity
    5. Three Pillows War (Grymharth's Woe) - Re-enact the three banners war with pillow forts and floof balls
    4. Treefern House (Moon-sugar meadow) - Giant treefern treehouse
    3. Artaeum Theatre (Grand Psijic Manor) - Tiered Balcony
    2. Imperial Bridal Suite (Linchal Grand Manor) - Wedding venue with bridal suite extension
    1. Dragonguard Penthouse (Jode's Embrace) - 3 Extra floors, with indoor conservatory and top floor gym
  • Sylvermynx
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    I actually do the Imperial provisioning writ ones, just not the Deep Winter ones or the Imperial furnishing ones. The provisioning ones don't use furnishing mats!
    Edited by Sylvermynx on December 17, 2021 4:54PM
  • Necrotech_Master
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    i stopped doing all of these writs after getting the crystalfrost skin many years ago when it was added lol, i still usually keep them in storage if friends need to do them though or sell them if price is good enough (usually a few months after event)

    i do agree the quantities for some of them are extremely unreasonable especially with the high cost to craft each individual item
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014

    i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them

    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    I put a whole bunch of writs from the previous year up and they all sold very quickly; indeed it is those linked the crystal-frost skin.

    Same here, I have the skin already and I'm holding on to my mats, thank you very much! :)
    Edited by Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo on December 17, 2021 6:58PM
  • Rastaman111
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    Well got the skin already, and I am not into creating furniture for the house part of Eso.

    I got 1 free house from last year its full of junk of the Antiques I found

    The only thing is to want to get the new outfits but seems easier to buy them from guild traders in a few days when people will sell their duplicates and prices will drop deeply/.

    And the Materials the drop is sooooooooooooooo low.
  • SidraWillowsky
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    The price gauging on furnishing mats -particularly mundane runes and heartwood- is absolutely out of control right now. They're uncommon enough that it's proving to be fairly easy for people to buy them all up and re-list for 2-3x the price that they normally go for. I wish I could list some for reasonable prices, but there's a very high chance that flippers will get ahold of them first and then just list for absurd prices.

    And sure, people can go farm them, but I tend to find *maybe* 20 heartwood in an hour of farming at times, and that's with the CP perk that doubles my yield ~10% of the time. As OP mentioned, newer players are most likely not going to have this perk yet. I don't know how many heartwood/runes the writs take, but even if they take 5, players who may need to buy mats to supplement their inventory are looking at spending 10k per writ, assuming 2k per piece of wood or rune.

    If anyone on PC/NA is struggling to complete their writs because other people are awful and are price gauging, feel free to PM me in-game or on here and I can send you furnishing mats for free. @aeiathehuntress (that's indeed an i in aiea)

    Yes, I know that this is how economies work sometimes, but that doesn't mean it's not crappy of people to do this stuff.
    Edited by SidraWillowsky on December 17, 2021 7:35PM
  • jaws343
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    Once I did the event specific achievements for them, I just started selling them for 5K each. They eventually make up for the cost of the mats to do the initial ones, and then some going forward.
  • OldStygian
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    Being a newb with regard to new life and crafting I now know why people were spamming zone to buy heartwood in the weeks leading up to the festival.
  • DarcyMardin
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    Yeah, the festival writs are mostly useless to me because of the cost of the furnishing mats. As others have said, I, too, only do the provisioning ones.
  • TequilaFire
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    Yeah all I got was the cony bunny runebox for using a few mats I have thousands of gotten for free by harvesting. ;)
    Edited by TequilaFire on December 17, 2021 9:37PM
  • FlopsyPrince
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    It is not "price gouging" to sell a rare / desired item for a higher price. Should they sell it for less so others can flip it or pile them up?

    I just restarted on the PC about 6 months ago and I had enough (except for Nickel, which I bought) to make 6-10 of each writ.

    I do crafting dailies most days on 11 or so characters, so I also have plenty of gold if I want buy them even at inflated prices. I harvest just about everything I come across. Stuff piles up quickly.
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  • AzuraFan
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    I agree that they're expensive to do. On my main, I've almost got the achievement/skin for doing 12 writs. Once that's done, I won't be doing any more, and I won't be going for the achievement on my other toons.
  • markulrich1966
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    wait until after the event, when mats prices go down. You still can turn in them then.
  • Nanfoodle
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    I did them just till I got the style pages I wanted. Not worried about the full collection.
  • Sheridan
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    is this an event or a push to spend our gold?
    It's charity.

  • The_Boggart
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    The experience from these quests is OK however I do wish that the junk from these quests could be sold back for a jewel or so I'm so overloaded with rune boxes etc.
  • Hapexamendios
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    I can't give away the charity writs to my guildies lol. Just put them in the guild bank .
  • FeedbackOnly
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    I want a housing event to get double mats please
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I actually do the Imperial provisioning writ ones, just not the Deep Winter ones or the Imperial furnishing ones. The provisioning ones don't use furnishing mats!
    wait until after the event, when mats prices go down. You still can turn in them then.

    The Imperial Charity writs can only be turned in during the event. The Deep Winter ones, as you say, can be turned in at any time.

    And except for the Deep Winter furnishing ones that require Hardwood, they're reasonably cost-effective ways to grind XP, when compared to alchemy or enchanting master writs. One caution, however; they only give about 2/3 the XP that master writs do.

    At least, that's how I feel on PC/NA, this year. Prices vary by server and over time.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on December 18, 2021 9:50AM
  • mickeyx
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just thought I'd let management know that the cost of crafting materials is not worth the effort of doing the new life 'deep winter' charity.
    I don't know how newer players are going to get around this without some frustrations.

    Some of the quests require (12 craftable objects)....is this an event or a push to spend our gold?

    I did some and when saw how much mats it takes and the rewards you get. I never did them again. The reward should atleast return some of your mats if nothing else. Who has that many furnishing mats to burn. Anyhow I got the skin and the outfit styles i needed in my first try so i am done with them for good.
    Edited by mickeyx on December 18, 2021 4:44PM
  • Arunei
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    wait until after the event, when mats prices go down. You still can turn in them then.
    Except Heartwood prices haven't gone down ever since around Greymoor, it just keeps getting more and more expensive. The same goes for Mundane Runes. They're required for what seems like 80% of blueprints overall, and in fairly high numbers, which means it's ridiculously hard to farm anywhere near a decent number in a reasonable amount of time.

    Don't forget that this is the event where we get the free house, too. A LOT of people are going to be snapping up mats to make furniture to decorate with long after New Life itself is over.
    Edited by Arunei on December 18, 2021 3:04PM
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  • Amottica
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    I just did the provisioning ones. You only have to craft things like roast chicken which is a one item (green) food recipe. The blacksmithing ones are a lot cheaper than woodworking, but less so than provisioning.

    Also people are doing it for the skin and achievement, not the writ vouchers.

    As a new player this is good to know. Thx for sharing.
  • SilverBride
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    I did a couple of these without thinking about the mats. I won't make that mistake again.
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  • KalyanLazair
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    I got the skin and the stuff I wanted already, so I'm completely done with these. It wastes too many resources to make them worth it.
  • The_Boggart
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    There are too many writ drops, I have started a new character, the loot boxes are dropping rune boxes or writs which when completed give styles that are duplicates.
    So far only 2 recipes and 1 skin changer style item from 60 boxes.
  • blktauna
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    the heartwood shock is real
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  • Tan9oSuccka
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    I just decon the non provisioning ones right off the bat. People are undercutting the crap out of them anyway in traders.
  • etchedpixels
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    Part of the problem is that demand, the other is that every year the same happens so people bought all the heartwood in game and then put it back on guild stores at more than double the price knowing it would happen.

    ESO uses a no holds barred capitalist economic model and everything that goes with it. The best thing to do with the heartwood using writs is try and offload them to another sucker.

    You either buy a load of heartwood 4 weeks before, or don't do them. And quite frankly if you bought a load of heartwood 4 weeks before you probably sell the heartwood at double your money instead 8)
    Too many toons not enough time
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