Please add smart rng for antiquity leads and undaunted shoulders

AuraStorm43
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Title, considering the constant meta shifts every patch with new monster sets and antiquities i think its beyond time for both to be reigned in

For perspective, i spent several months farming water nodes to get my tide glass beads lead, as far as undaunted, i have yet to get my hands on a light or medium kjalnar’s shouler despite spend 30 or 40 keys, how exactly is that “fun” to run something for ages just to not get what you need?
  • Juomuuri
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    30 or 40 keys doesn't sound that much by first glance, but if you'd be trying to get every set for the sticker book, it begins to look quite grim (imagine needing 50+ keys per dungeon. Not cool). So yes, they should add curated drops for these to prevent hard earned keys going to quite literal waste. I personally don't have the physical health to grind pledges, so I'm most of the time just not getting any sets, and if I do, I have to go with what I get, be it not optimal (5-1-1 hasn't been meta for years now).

    Same goes for the antiquity leads - it's quite bothersome to do content over and over or run around plucking plants off the ground in hopes of getting what you want. And, due to physical health issues, I personally can't grind for leads either. I did the grind for the Wild Hunt ring and suffered from horrid leg pain for weeks after. :neutral: Don't wanna suffer that ever again.
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  • AuraStorm43
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    30 or 40 keys doesn't sound that much by first glance, but if you'd be trying to get every set for the sticker book, it begins to look quite grim (imagine needing 50+ keys per dungeon. Not cool). So yes, they should add curated drops for these to prevent hard earned keys going to quite literal waste. I personally don't have the physical health to grind pledges, so I'm most of the time just not getting any sets, and if I do, I have to go with what I get, be it not optimal (5-1-1 hasn't been meta for years now).

    Same goes for the antiquity leads - it's quite bothersome to do content over and over or run around plucking plants off the ground in hopes of getting what you want. And, due to physical health issues, I personally can't grind for leads either. I did the grind for the Wild Hunt ring and suffered from horrid leg pain for weeks after. :neutral: Don't wanna suffer that ever again.

    Can’t imagine that, ngl for my healers i haven’t bothered swapping to 7 light lol
  • fall0athboy
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    I wouldn't mind some sort of boost to the antiquities.

    In RuneScape, the boss pets are extremely rare drops from the various bosses in game. For example, one has a drop rate of 1/5000, and in hard mode, 1/1000. Each boss has a threshold. This threshold is a fifth of the drop chance denominator. So the threshold for this boss here is 1000, rounded down. If you kill this boss 1000 times and do not get the boss pet, your numerator increases by 1. So each future kill, you would be treated as having a drop rate of 2/5000, and in hard mode, 2/1000.

    I would love to see some sort of boost like this. The dungeons don't bother me nearly as much as the "kill overworld mobs" leads or "farm nodes".
  • Aardappelboom
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    I don't mind some RNG and to out in some work for a valuable item, but I've been farming chests in Bangkorai for pale order and I'm sick of it, boosting as you go would be a very good thing.
  • Xebov
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    Title, considering the constant meta shifts every patch with new monster sets and antiquities i think its beyond time for both to be reigned in

    For perspective, i spent several months farming water nodes to get my tide glass beads lead, as far as undaunted, i have yet to get my hands on a light or medium kjalnar’s shouler despite spend 30 or 40 keys, how exactly is that “fun” to run something for ages just to not get what you need?

    Staying with the meta requires preperation. Thats why we got the stickerbook to collect stuff now that we might need later. You will always get into trouble if you start target gathering stuff the moment you need it.

    30-40 keys is not much. Per dungeon pair you need around 50-100 keys to get all the shoulders (10-20 boxes). About the kilt lead i have the feeling that you exaggerate the time you needed.
    30 or 40 keys doesn't sound that much by first glance, but if you'd be trying to get every set for the sticker book, it begins to look quite grim (imagine needing 50+ keys per dungeon. Not cool).

    Every of the 3 NPCs sells completely random boxes for 1 key. You can complete half of your should collection just by bying 40-60 boxes from each NPC. Only thing you have to do afterwards is filling the missing pieces with 5 key boxes. I did this and finished it some months after the patch came out. All you have to do is run the vanilla pledges in vet hm every day, preferable on several characters, and use the keys somewhat inteligently. All i have to do now is spending 50-100 keys every 6 months. Of course you dont get far if you try to target one dungeon at a time.
  • AuraStorm43
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    Xebov wrote: »
    Title, considering the constant meta shifts every patch with new monster sets and antiquities i think its beyond time for both to be reigned in

    For perspective, i spent several months farming water nodes to get my tide glass beads lead, as far as undaunted, i have yet to get my hands on a light or medium kjalnar’s shouler despite spend 30 or 40 keys, how exactly is that “fun” to run something for ages just to not get what you need?

    Staying with the meta requires preperation. Thats why we got the stickerbook to collect stuff now that we might need later. You will always get into trouble if you start target gathering stuff the moment you need it.

    30-40 keys is not much. Per dungeon pair you need around 50-100 keys to get all the shoulders (10-20 boxes). About the kilt lead i have the feeling that you exaggerate the time you needed.
    30 or 40 keys doesn't sound that much by first glance, but if you'd be trying to get every set for the sticker book, it begins to look quite grim (imagine needing 50+ keys per dungeon. Not cool).

    Every of the 3 NPCs sells completely random boxes for 1 key. You can complete half of your should collection just by bying 40-60 boxes from each NPC. Only thing you have to do afterwards is filling the missing pieces with 5 key boxes. I did this and finished it some months after the patch came out. All you have to do is run the vanilla pledges in vet hm every day, preferable on several characters, and use the keys somewhat inteligently. All i have to do now is spending 50-100 keys every 6 months. Of course you dont get far if you try to target one dungeon at a time.

    I can’t grab antiquities in preparation if they haven’t dropped yet lol, thats the point a lotta the methods are absurd and the drop rates are low, who thought putting a lead at the end of dragonstar was a good idea

    Bruh, 30-40 keys is like a week of farming for me, thats 5 keys per day per toon if you do the non dlc hm
  • IronWooshu
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    I would like to see smart RNG also added with recipe's/formulas/designs and dungeon motifs etc..
    Edited by IronWooshu on December 12, 2021 3:28PM
  • AlnilamE
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    How would "smart RNG" for leads work? They only have one source, and you either have a lead or you don't.

    Do you want to have a guaranteed drop the first time you run the content? Every time you run the content in a state where you could get the lead?

    What are we talking about here?

    As for the monster shoulders, I check the golden vendor every weekend and buy any shoulders/helms that I don't have yet.
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  • Xebov
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    I can’t grab antiquities in preparation if they haven’t dropped yet lol, thats the point a lotta the methods are absurd and the drop rates are low, who thought putting a lead at the end of dragonstar was a good idea

    Not them, but everything else. The shoulders you search for example are available for longer than the stickerbook exists which means you had already 1 year to start and fill it out. For the lead you searched for months iam still thinking you exaggerate the time required. Most players got it within a week worst case.
    Bruh, 30-40 keys is like a week of farming for me, thats 5 keys per day per toon if you do the non dlc hm

    And? Since the stickerbook exists you could have collected more than 1800 keys by consistantly doing 5 keys on a single toon. Thats more than you need to complete the whole album if used correctly. On top of that many shoulders are sold every 2 weeks by the golden vendor.

    Iam not saying that the current situation is ideal, but if you want to play the meta game you have to put in time into preperation. This is one such case. It was easily possible to complete all monster shoulders within a couple of months after the release of the stickerbook. Yet i get the feeling you stand there saying "Oh no i have to invest time into this to be up to date on meta".
  • AuraStorm43
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    Xebov wrote: »
    I can’t grab antiquities in preparation if they haven’t dropped yet lol, thats the point a lotta the methods are absurd and the drop rates are low, who thought putting a lead at the end of dragonstar was a good idea

    Not them, but everything else. The shoulders you search for example are available for longer than the stickerbook exists which means you had already 1 year to start and fill it out. For the lead you searched for months iam still thinking you exaggerate the time required. Most players got it within a week worst case.
    Bruh, 30-40 keys is like a week of farming for me, thats 5 keys per day per toon if you do the non dlc hm

    And? Since the stickerbook exists you could have collected more than 1800 keys by consistantly doing 5 keys on a single toon. Thats more than you need to complete the whole album if used correctly. On top of that many shoulders are sold every 2 weeks by the golden vendor.

    Iam not saying that the current situation is ideal, but if you want to play the meta game you have to put in time into preperation. This is one such case. It was easily possible to complete all monster shoulders within a couple of months after the release of the stickerbook. Yet i get the feeling you stand there saying "Oh no i have to invest time into this to be up to date on meta".

    There’s time and spending every single day doing something i don’t want to do, whats the harm in better shoulder rng
  • AinSoph
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    I don't think they should add curation to the shoulder boxes but instead lower the price of the dungeon-specific boxes to 4 or 3, maybe even 2. DLC is a whole different beast considering it can only get larger so those should definitely be 3 or 2.
    Edited by AinSoph on December 13, 2021 12:07AM
  • Hapexamendios
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    Definitely needed for the motif leads from treasure chests
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